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CTIA Daily News from WOW-COM - July 15, 1998
by CTIA Daily News 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: GAK 4 -- For whom the Doorbell tolls
by Charlie_Kaufman＠iris.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

GAK4 is technically inaccurate but very good metaphor by which to consider this proposal. I believe this is a minor skirmish in the war between civil libertarians and Big Brother with industry playing the role of arms merchant. It is not Government Access to Keys, it is Government Access to Encrypted Data, which for everyones purposes is the same thing. In answer to the question: "Should Cisco and friends be allowed to export this technology?", of course they should. People should be allowed to export whatever they want. Even if you're Big Brother, this proposal enables all the same capabilities as GAK, so there is no reason to oppose it. In answer to the question: "Is this a 'compromise' that addresses the issues of civil libertarians?", not a bit. The devil is in the details, of course, in issues of whether the government can ask the encryption points for copies of the data in real time, in an unaudited fashion, and/or with what kind of "trusted third party" intermediaries. But these questions are exactly akin to the details to be worked out with GAK and self-escrow. In answer to the question: "Is there anything at all different between this proposal and GAK?", the answer is some, and the differences might be relevant to some. This proposal is a little better than GAK for law enforcement because it would be easier to use and they tend to be technically unsophisticated. It is a little worse than GAK for the NSA because the extra data flows mean that it is harder to conduct surveillance in a totally undetectable way. It favors some vendors over others because it favors those who want to encrypt at firewalls over those who want to encrypt end-to-end. It might slow overall progress in network security because end-to-end encryption is technically superior (though harder to deploy) and universal firewall to firewall encryption might reduce the demand for it. In answer to the question: "Would approval of this proposal be a good or a bad thing?", the answer is ambiguous for the civil libertarian side. Any time a new thing is allowed to be exported, it increases the flexibility of vendors in crafting solutions and is likely to increase overall security. On the other hand, anything which makes continuation of export controls less in-your-face-painful will decrease pressure to repeal them and therefore may in the long run decrease overall security. And anything which makes it easier to make systems secure against all attackers other than Big Brother brings closer the disasterous day when non-GAK crypto can be outlawed. If you're Big Brother, approval seems to be uniformly a good thing. It garners political points among the unsophisticated as being willing to make "technical compromises". It costs nothing in terms of access. And it may bring closer the glorious day when non-GAK crypto can be outlawed. --Charlie Kaufman

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Could the world turn lesbian?/Men's privates enlarging
by STUFFED/EUREKA! 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Whitehouse Bastards want my name named.
by Cyberdog 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Blumenthal Discovery requests both the Email subscriber list to Drudge Report AND contributor list to Drudge Legal Defense Fund...

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your papers please
by Anton Sherwood 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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NYT Crypto OpEd
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The NYT has a fairly good OpEd on encryption today, written by a novelist, who makes a good case for the citizen's need for the privacy protection, now that there are a zillion ways computers pry into private affairs. http://www.nytimes.com For those outside the US: NYT today began its free worldwide online service, so the whole world can log on to its prying computers. (Non-USes heretofore had to pay for privacy loss.) It claims to have 4 million daily online consumers and is happy to run an advertiser drivern operation to suck in millions more around the planet. Take note, Slate.

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17 Dec '03

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Re: Shimomura on TV?
by Michael C. Peponis 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Has anyone heard anything else about this? I am getting real sick of the > media's portrayal of the internet. They never say anything good about it. If > they were to mention C2's system they would say how it is a no-rules server > to hide thugs and pornos from the police. I am getting sick of watching this > trash. The whole realm of the internet and computers and their associated > areas are very dear to me I am sick of the media bludgeoning them to death. Douglas, Why let it bother you? You must understand that the majority of the population of the United States is working class trash, the news media is just peddeling to the masses, just like the morons that hold elected office. They can keep up the bitching, but that's a good thing, I encourage the spread of this kind of disinformation, it keeps even more of the masses from getting on for fear of being offenced. Regards, Michael Peponis PGP Key Avalible form MIT Key Server,or via finger

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Re: proving that one knows how to break RSA
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dimitri Vulis <dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com> writes: > Adam Back <aba(a)dcs.ex.ac.uk> writes: > > Dimitri Vulis <dlv(a)bwalk.dm.com> writes: > > > Bill Payne was with Sandia national lab (where they quite a bit of > > > crypto work) Bill claims to have discovered a very fast > > > factorization algorithm using shift registers, which he refuses to > > > publish. While I haven't seen the algorithm, I believe he may well > > > be right. > > > > Bill Payne's claim to having discovered a faster factorization > > algorithm than the current state of the art, allows us to invoke the > > oft discussed mechanisms for the author to prove this ability without > > divulging the algorithm, and then proceed to sell the algorithm to the > > highest bidder, whilst minimizing his chances of being killed. > ... > I believe Bill is genuinely afraid that if he published his algorithm, > then he'll be killed. I don't know enough to judge how realistic his > fear is. I've been involved in serious discussions of assassinations > over smaller amounts of money than is at stake here. He displays great > courage by saying anything at all at this point. Oh, please. Payne's so-called faster factorization algorithm was discussed on this list May 13. See the archives under the thread title "Public Key Break Paper". The algorithm is total garbage. Payne is obviously a nut case who is setting himself up for a contempt of court charge.

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Re: Nanotechnology
by Otto Matic 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Cross posted to the "Highly Imaginative Technology List" HIT-list(a)asisem.org >------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- >Date: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 23:14:32 -0500 >From: Nathan Russell <frussell(a)frontiernet.net> >Reply-to: frussell(a)frontiernet.net >To: HIT-list(a)asisem.org >Subject: Re: HIT: Fwd: (Fwd) Re: Nanotechnology > >Otto Matic wrote: >> >> >Orinally posted to the cypherpunks list cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net. >> > >> >------- Forwarded Message Follows ------- >> >Date: Sat, 17 Jan 1998 11:45:36 -0500 >> >From: ghio(a)temp0181.myriad.ml.org (Matthew Ghio) >> >Subject: Re: Nanotechnology >> >To: cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net >> >Reply-to: ghio(a)temp0181.myriad.ml.org (Matthew Ghio) Matthew Ghio Wrote to the Cypherpunks: <<<SNIP>>> >> >So roughly 8 months just to build one copy, rather than to achieve >> >world domination. :) >> > >> >Still, unless I'm way off on these estimates, it's within the right >> >ballpark. If the cubes were 1 cm, you could make copies in less >> >than a day, assuming it didn't get too hot at that power level. >> >Just figure out how you're going to feed the electricity and raw >> >materials into all those little things... > >You could direct the molecules the same way electron beams are steered >in a TV > > > >This sort of replicator is not what is usually >considered > >nanotechnology, but if it actually worked, such a >device >could become > >quite popular. Nathan Russell wrote to the HIT-List Yeah... what about making microchips, LSD or diamonds - all of which have very high value/mass ratios. Or bio warfare agents - maybe in cryogenic state to be warmed up when finished. What about more complicated lifeforms - like people. It would be hard to figure out what to use for currancy, though - in Star Trek, Latinum is assumed, according to one book, to be dependent for its properties on a huge number of molecular legs resting against each other rather like the fins of an artichoke steamer - can't be replicated because unless the molecule is complete each leg creates an unequal force on its neighbors and they flip into a non-latinum position. Not that there wouldn't be positive elements - medicine would be very cheap. In fact, a pound - or maybe a mole - of anything with value would cost no more than its component elements, plus labor. What about little self- 'replicating' robots that go into a landfill and produce an army of themselves, turning excess elements into something useful. BTW, could living things be replicated or would the structure be too complex? Intelligence supposebly depends on electrons moving in tiny protein quantom channels in the brain in a completely unprodictable way, telpathy is the electrons becoming quantom linked. That could be hard to replicate. -Nathan ___END FORWARDED___ Thought you cypher punks would like to see this. Otto ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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