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Re: Netscape for Linux?
by bret＠bjohns.win.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>> > And the sad part is that now that they have announced that they are >> > dropping their unofficial Linux support, >> >> I have no current plans to alter our treatment of Linux. It is not now, >> nor has it ever been, a supported platform. We do build for it, >> and some people are happy about that. >> >> I have not constructed a business case which would cause Netscape >> to begin support for Linux versions of the Navigator. Right now, I'm >> not sure that making a point of this would do what you want. > >I'll say some people are happy about it. > >You just recently turned down an order for 230 copies of the netscape >navigator for Linux, and as you folks aren't making any money, you can >only wonder why. > >You have also turned numerous other attempts by varionus people to buy >both quantities of navigaors and server software for Linux. > >It seems to me that you folks are going out of your way to deny the >fact that the Linux market exists. I think that its because you are >embarassed that all these people with a $20 operating system are >throwing money at you while all the folks with $10K operating systems >aren't talking to you at all. That is ok! I just called there "Sales" dept. and asked for some info. to be sent to me on there serevers. I got 5 copies of what is on the WEB page. I could have done that. I asked him for prices and told him this was to present to a group of Marketing and Buss. type for a community system to bring Internet access to a whole county that does not have it now.. BTW, the system will be running on Suns and SGI's..... Oh well.. I thought they would do better than this. So far, there no better then sun at customer service...

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Re: "Going after Netscape"
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In article <199509231914.MAA01326(a)infinity.c2.org>, sameer(a)c2.org (sameer) wrote: >> So, keep on "attacking" Netscape (kudos to Ray, by the way, though I've >> seen Netscape bomb on certain sites, as with the Cypherpunks archive site, >> as several of us noted a few months ago...probably a different problem, but >> indicative that Netscape can be corrupted). But let's be careful not to >> convey any flavor of this being a vendetta. > > I agree. The goal is not to kill Netscape but to make the net >secure. Absolutely. We aren't on a vendetta. We want to make the net secure for privacy. If hacking a Netscape server will help that goal, surely Netsape's own would be the most appropriate server to try, since it will generate the largest exposure in the press and thereby the strongest motivation for Netscape to fix the hole. - -- - -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred. - --- [This message has been signed by an auto-signing service. A valid signature means only that it has been received at the address corresponding to the signature and forwarded.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Gratis auto-signing service iQBFAwUBMGRoHyoZzwIn1bdtAQHJCgF9FbuTP1VBbzGJANFX48hvje4V7pzhyEaQ ItXGdXHCPbxjKbQ0bLApkt4yTtHJREMk =wEyv -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Crypto in Wired
by stevenw＠iglou.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Good issue of Wired this month (10/95) > >Vic Sussman has a half page on PGPfone. Asked why he's giving away PGPfone >with an inditement hanging over his head Zimmermann says "... I am a >cryptographer. This is what I do". You need the full quote to get the real effect: <<Why is Zimmermann giving away voice-crypto when the feds are still dangling an indictment over his head? "Because it's still legal for Americans to hold a private conversation," he says. "And because I'm a crypographer. This is what I do.">> That is a remarkably concise, intelligent, informative, unequivocal, savvy, and personal statement. Hats off to PZ (or whoever told him to say that). ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steven Weller | "The Internet, of course, is more +1 415 390 9732 | than just a place to find pictures | of people having sex with dogs." stevenw(a)iglou.com | -- Time Magazine, 3 July 1995

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Foreign language traffic on the CDR?...
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, I was wondering if there was a large objection to carrying non-English crypto traffic... ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there | | be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves. | | | | -Alan Greenspan- | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http:// www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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No Subject
by Freedom Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Newsgroups: alt.privacy.anon-server > From: shamrock(a)netcom.com (Lucky Green) > Subject: The subtle danger of using Mixmaster > Message-ID: <shamrock-2409951151310001(a)192.0.2.1> > Sender: shamrock(a)netcom19.netcom.com > Organization: NETCOM On-line Communication Services (408 261-4700 guest) > X-Newsreader: Yet Another NewsWatcher 2.0 > Date: Sun, 24 Sep 1995 19:51:30 GMT > Lines: 19 > > There are about twenty Mixmaster remailers. Reason to celebrate? Hardly. > Though we have more remailers than ever, I doubt that the twenty or so > Mixmasters are operated my more than six or seven people. I would not be > surprised to find out that some folks are running several Mixmasters on > the _same_ machine, using different IP addresses. > > While the enthusiasm for increasing the number of remailers is > understandable, the operation of more than one Mixmaster by the same > person is downright dangerous, because it reduces the effective lenght of > the remailer chain. The message that you sent through five remailers may > have only been handled by two operators. When you thought that five people > had to colaborate to trace your email, only two are in fact required to do > so. > > Comments? > > -- > -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> > PGP encrypted mail preferred. >

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WARNING - Major Investigation May Involve You
by 43809380＠msn.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: unSAFE won't pass?
by Vin McLellan 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Will Rodger <rodger(a)worldnet.att.net> declared: >It may make for good copy, but I think it's just fantasy to think the >administration or their opponents, for that matter, will get what >they want this year. Let them swarm. Who cares. > >At earliest, August of 1998 before anything passes - and even that is >highly optimistic. Will: Could you please explain the logic, numbers, and procedural limitations of congressional action that lead you to this conclusion? Why not now? Why not between now and August '98? Why the deadline/target-date of August '98? Suerte, _Vin "Cryptography is like literacy in the Dark Ages. Infinitely potent, for good and ill... yet basically an intellectual construct, an idea, which by its nature will resist efforts to restrict it to bureaucrats and others who deem only themselves worthy of such Privilege." _ A thinking man's Creed for Crypto/ vbm. * Vin McLellan + The Privacy Guild + <vin(a)shore.net> * 53 Nichols St., Chelsea, MA 02150 USA <617> 884-5548

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Re: Crypto APIs
by James A. Donald 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 04:29 PM 10/2/95 -0400, Matt Blaze wrote: > It seems best to encourage the realistic > side of NSA as much as possible... Why? Surely the realists are more dangerous than the nuts. > [...] > > In other > words, the parts of the military that are concerned with actually > securing communications want exactly what we want, and are just > starting to realize it. This does not necessarily protect our right to cryptography, any more than it protects our right to full auto guns. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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is this a bug of Netscape
by John Cheng 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

If you go to http://c.gp.cs.cmu.edu:5103/prog/webster, you will get a input textbox and two buttons, leave textbox blank and push Look Up Definition button, you will get a GPF? I am using Netscape V1.2N for windows. Sorry if you have knew it. J

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Oct 14 mtg - focus on java
by mrm＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi - The Oct 14 cypherpunks meeting will be focussing on Java topics. I'm putting together an agenda, and finalizing the meeting location. It looks like we'll have someone from the Java group at Sun to talk about what the current Java security policy is, and about Java and HotJava security mechanisms. Doug Barnes and Amanda Chou will talk about JCrypt, which is a set of Java wrappers for existing C encryption routines. If you'd like to talk at the Oct 14 meeting, please send me email with a description of your project, and I'll schedule you in. I'll send out mail early next week with the agenda, and letting you know where the meeting will be held. I'm trying to get a large conference room at one of the Sun facilities. Marianne mrm(a)netcom.com mrm(a)eng.sun.com

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