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Striking!
by Sun Toucher 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

well you could say I striked. "Twilight is upon me and soon night must fall"

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RE: Anyone Striking?
by Gomes, Carlos 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

My original statement is a bit off. I think the past weekend in Dallas is still with in spirit.... I don't think Jim nor Perry openly advocated the strike so let me chop that statement. And as for myself, I was hoping to see something a bit more active in regards to a protest and I was hoping that the call to strike would be a start. The call appears to have been slightly still born if not horribly premature. There were several ideas floating around: a) detach from the net and from work b) create a signed letter of disapproval published to appropriate orgs c) _short_ loosely organized burst of DoS against select online targets from widely distributed sources. All valid forms of protests (when properly organized and executed) all with varying forms of impact and visibility. For the record, I think option c) could be a valid and effective form of active protest. It is a form which has not been used in support of the cpunks' agenda (or many agenda's for that matter) to date and one that merits a review. On to the next online skirmish... regards, C.G. -- DISCLAIMER: The above views are mine and not of my employer or coworkers. I do not speak as a representative of their views. Only of my own. > -----Original Message----- > From: Tim May [mailto:tcmay@got.net] > Sent: Monday, December 14, 1998 12:39 PM > To: Gomes, Carlos; James Glave > Cc: cypherpunks(a)toad.com; cryptography(a)c2.net; dcsb(a)ai.mit.edu > Subject: RE: Anyone Striking? > > > At 9:29 AM -0800 12/14/98, Gomes, Carlos wrote: > >Even http://www.openpgp.net is still up and operational. I > agree with Perry > >M. and Jim C. that the concept was good but the timetable > was unfortunately > >unrealistic. I've not run across any strike pages. > > A foolish idea, that little "strike." Something out of the > lefty sixties. > Grape boycotts and all that nonsense. > [deletia] >

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Forced DNA Collection
by Eric Cordian 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Top Story on AP... NEW YORK (AP) -- Despite objections from civil libertarians, the city's police commissioner proposed Monday to take a DNA sample along with the fingerprints of everyone arrested. Commissioner Howard Safir said the test would solve crimes and help curb repeat offenders. ``The innocents have nothing to fear ... only if you are guilty should you worry about DNA testing,'' he said. ... In Britain, where DNA samples are taken from every suspect, officials have solved 17 major cases using such data since 1995, according to the National Institute of Justice Journal. -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"

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MEDIA RELEASE: Data Fellows Joins the Microsoft Security Partners Program
by Marita Nasman-Repo 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This message comes from Data Fellows. You have previously expressed interest in our products or asked to be included on one of our press release lists. To remove yourself from our mailing lists, reply to this message with the text "remove " in the subject field. PRESS RELEASE FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Data Fellows Joins the Microsoft Security Partners Program Helsinki, Finland, December 15, 1998-- Data Fellows, the global leader in developing data security software solutions, has been invited to join the Microsoft Security Partners Program. The Microsoft Security Partners Program (http://www.microsoft.com/security/partners) provides customers with the tools and information they need to establish, test and maintain effective information security for their computing infrastructure. The program brings together software manufacturers, security consultants and security trainers, making it even easier for customers to provide robust security in their Microsoft Windows NT operating system-based networks. Three Data Fellows products are included in the Microsoft Security Partners Program. F-Secure Workstation Suite consists of malicious code detection and removal as well as unobtrusive file and network encryption, all integrated into a policy-based management architecture. F-Secure VPN+ provides a software-based, IPSec/IKE VPN solution scaleable for large corporate networks as well as remote and small office networks. F-Secure FileCrypto is the first and only product to integrate strong real-time encryption directly into the Windows NT-based file system. "Microsoft is pleased to include Data Fellows as part of its Security Partners Program," said Karan Khanna, Windows NT Security Product Manager at Microsoft Corp. "This program will help our mutual customers develop and deploy secure solutions built on the Windows NT platform." "The relationship with Microsoft shows Data Fellows commitment to improve the native security of standalone and networked computers with a comprehensive, centrally managed suite of security services," said Risto Siilasmaa, president and CEO of Data Fellows. "Data Fellows is committed to providing globally available seamless security for Windows users; security that is strong yet easy to manage and economical." Data Fellows is one of the worlds leading developers of data security products. The company develops, markets and supports anti-virus, data security and cryptography software products for corporate computer networks. The company has head offices in San Jose, California, and Espoo, Finland, and branch offices in Washington, DC, Calgary, London, Paris and Munich, as well as corporate partners, VARs and distributors in over 80 countries. All F-Secure products are integrated into the F-Secure Framework management architecture, which provides a three-tier, scaleable, policy-based management infrastructure which minimizes the costs of security management. In addition to the products in the Microsoft Security Partners Program, the F-Secure product line also includes the following products. F-Secure Anti-Virus is the most comprehensive, real-time virus scanning and protection system for all Windows platforms. It utilizes multiple scanning engines, including F-PROT and AVP. F-Secure SSH provides secure remote login, terminal, and other connections over unsecured networks. It is the most widely used secure remote administration tool. F-Secure NameSurfer is the solution for remote Internet and intranet DNS administration. Its easy-to-use WWW user interface automates and simplifies DNS administration. Data Fellows has customers in more than 100 countries. Its customers include many of the worlds largest industrial corporations and best-known telecommunications companies, major international airlines, governments, post offices and defence forces, and several of the worlds largest banks. Data Fellows was named one of the Top 100 Technology companies in the world by Red Herring magazine in its September 1998 issue. Other commendations include the Virus Bulletin 100 % award (several times in 1998); Hot Product of the Year 1997 (Data Communications Magazine); and the 1996 European Information Technology Grand Prize. For more information, please contact USA: Data Fellows, Inc. Mr. Pirkka Palomaki 675 N. First Street, 8th floor San Jose, CA 95112 USA Tel. +1 408 938 6700, fax +1 408 938 6701 E-mail: Pirkka.Palomaki(a)DataFellows.com Europe: Data Fellows Ltd. Mr. Ari Hypponen PL 24 FIN-02331 Espoo Finland Tel. +358 9 859 900, fax. +358 9 8599 0599 E-mail: Ari.Hypponen(a)DataFellows.com -- Marita.Nasman-Repo(a)DataFellows.com, World-Wide Web http://www.DataFellows.com

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17 Dec '03

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Re: Forced DNA Collection
by pgut001＠cs.auckland.ac.nz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Eric Cordian <emc(a)wire.insync.net> writes: >Top Story on AP... > >NEW YORK (AP) -- Despite objections from civil libertarians, the city's >police commissioner proposed Monday to take a DNA sample along with the >fingerprints of everyone arrested. > >Commissioner Howard Safir said the test would solve crimes and help curb >repeat offenders. ``The innocents have nothing to fear ... only if you are >guilty should you worry about DNA testing,'' he said. The Commissioner messed up the quote, it's actually: "I am returning to punish the guilty; the innocent have nothing to fear" - Lucius Cornelius Sulla, 90BC, just before he massacred the innocent en masse. Peter.

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Trans World Specials Fare Sales
by Trans World Specials 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Welcome to Trans World Specials for December 15th, 1998. This week marks the beginning of a great enhancement for Trans World Specials. To make it easier for you, telephoning is no longer necessary. After you read over the list of Trans World Specials just point your browser to http://www.twa.com/hotdeals and book your trip directly on our website. It's easy and only takes a minute. Just point and click. All tickets must be purchased between December 15 and December 18, 1998. All domestic fares allow travel to originate in either direction, except New York/Las Vegas, which may originate in New York only. Travel to St. Maarten may originate in New York City only. Did you know TWA has gift certificates available for you to give to your friends and family? Read all about it on our home page at http://www.twa.com On to this week's Trans World Specials. *************INTERNATIONAL************ Roundtrip fare from NEW YORK, NY (JFK) to: (Depart New York on December 17 or 18 and return December 19-21, 24, 25) Fare: City: $248 St. Maarten, Netherlands Antilles ************DOMESTIC***************** Roundtrip fare between ST. LOUIS, MO and: (Depart Friday 12/18 after 7 p.m. and return Monday or Tuesday 12/21 or 12/22) Fare: City: $129 Atlanta, GA $139 Dallas/Ft. Worth, TX $139 Pittsburgh, PA $89 Wichita, KS Roundtrip fares between ST. LOUIS, MO and: (Depart Friday 12/18 after 7 p.m. or all day 12/19 and return Monday or Tuesday 12/21 or 12/22) Fare: City: $89 Dayton, OH $69 Louisville, KY $69 Springfield, MO Roundtrip fare From NEW YORK, NY (JFK) to: (Depart Friday 12/18 or Saturday 12/19 and return Monday or Tuesday 12/21 or 12/22. Nonstop) Fare: City: $239 Las Vegas, NV **************ALAMO**************** Alamo offers the following low rates valid 12/12/98 - 12/14/98. $17.49 Las Vegas, NV - St. Louis, MO $20.49 Atlanta, GA - Pittsburgh, PA For reservations call Alamo at 1-800-GO-ALAMO and request rate code RT and ID # 443833. For online reservations visit Alamo at: http://www.goalamo.com ********HILTON HOTELS/RESORTS**************** Hilton Hotels/Resorts offers these low rates valid the night of 12/18/98 - 12/21/98. $59 Hilton Arlington - Arlington, TX (Includes breakfast for two! Visit Six Flags Over Texas and Hurricane Harbor) $85 Hilton Atlanta & Towers - Atlanta, GA (Downtown near Peachtree Center, SCITREK museum, and the Underground) $49 Hilton Atlanta Northwest - Atlanta, GA (Convenient to Six Flags, Marietta, and downtown Atlanta) $79 Hilton Dallas Parkway - Dallas, TX (N. 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Seats are limited and may not be availabe on all flights or dates. Standby is not allowed. Tickets must be purchased at the time of booking. Travel is on TWA only, no other air carrier. Certain domestic airfares of $89 or higher may be discounted by redeeming 5000 Aviatior miles. Aviator miles are not earned when redeeming miles for fare discount. Aviators earned and purchased upgrades may not be used in conjunction with the 5000 mile redemption. Once miles are redeemed they may not be recredited to the members account and are nonrefundable. DOMESTIC: All fares allow travel to originate in either direction (except NYC/LAS which may originate in NY only). All fares allow departure Friday 12/18 after 7 p.m. and certain fares indicated also allow departure all day Saturday 12/19. All return travel is allowed either Monday or Tuesday 12/21 or 12/22. All travel must be completed by 12/22. Travel between New York and Las Vegas via nonstop flights only. Tickets must be purchased by 12/18/98. INTERNATIONAL: Travel for St. Maarten must originate in New York only and may depart December 17 or 18. Return travel is allowed December 19-21, 24, 25. Fare does not include $47 in APHIS/U.S. Customs/Immigration/ U.S. Departure/Security Surcharge fees. Aviator upgrades are not permitted. Tickets must be purchased by 12/18/98. Car Rental Conditions: Taxes (including in California, VLF taxes ranging up to $1.89 per day), registrations fee/tax reimbursement, and airport access fees/taxes, if any, are extra. Optional CDW, liability insurance, fuel, additional driver fee, drop charges and other optional items are extra. Rates higher for renters under age 25. Rates valid for economy rentals(unless stated otherwise by Alamo) commencing on Friday and ending by 11:59 PM on Monday. Rates only valid during week in which they are published via TWA Internet site. A 24-hour advance reservation is required. Availability is limited. Two day minimum rental required. Hotel Conditions: Hilton Hotels and Resorts special rates are available only during the specific week in which they are published via the TWA Hot Deals Internet site and the HiltonNet Internet site. Limited availability; rooms at these Hilton Value Rates are sold on a first-come, first-served basis. Availability, rate, and terms of occupancy are not guaranteed and will be confirmed at time of reservation. Participating hotels, rates and terms are subject to change without notice. Single or double occupancy. Early check-in, late check-out subject to availability. No extra charge for children when they stay in parents' or grandparents' room; total room occupancy subject to local fire safety regulations and other applicable laws or regulations. Rates vary by season, do not include any other fees or charges, including without limitation state or local taxes or gratuities and are subject to change without notice. Advance booking required. Advance deposit may be required. Offer cannot be combined with any other special discounts, coupons, certificates, special rates, promotional offers, award stays, or meeting/group stays. Hilton reserves the right to cancel any Hilton Value Rate at any time without notice. Hilton is not responsible for the terms of other offers in the program, or for any electronic, computer, telephone, security, virus or any other problem or damage related to use of the program or its offers.

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Free Banner offer from LAO---
by dave＠liveauctiononline.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: I must admit. . .
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:25 PM -0800 12/14/98, Joel O'Connor wrote: >I wonder sometimes whether or not there is hope for us to ever stop >this tyrrany. I've seen a bunch of us diss the strike saying it was >an outlandish and foolish idea, but I hadn't seen anyone of you come >up with something better. Public protests...what have they ever accomplished? (If you cite the so-called Civil Rights Movement, you get minus 10 points.) --Tim May Y2K -- LMGALMAO -- Loading my guns and laughing my ass off ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 831-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments.

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Is Your Listing A Secret?
by list＠listme.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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