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(another) reason we need anon servers.
by jkthomson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Itex Sues Over Yahoo! Postings Friday, September 4, 1998; 12:13 p.m. EDT PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) -- An investment firm is suing the people who posted online messages on a Yahoo! bulletin board accusing managers of incompetence, even though the firm has no idea whom to sue. Itex Corp. listed 100 ``John Does'' in its lawsuit filed this week in Multnomah County Circuit Court. In May, somebody using the name ``Orangemuscat'' declared on the Yahoo! online message board that Itex's ``current management is blind, stupid and incompetent.'' The lawsuit charges the author of the message with defaming the company and its president, undermining the confidence of Itex's investors, customers and barter exchange members. ``Orangemuscat,'' ``Investor727,'' ``colojopa'' and other names are listed as defendants ``presently unknown to plaintiffs but whose true identities will be included in amendments hereto when those identities are discovered.'' Donovan Snyder, an Itex lawyer, said it was necessary to sue in order to find the authors of the message, but he declined further comment. Itex, a barter exchange brokerage, had engaged in a bitter takeover struggle with a rival brokerage, and has faced questions from critics who challenge the way it values its assets. The company previously has turned to the courts to battle former employees and critics. Yahoo! disclaims all responsibility for the messages that are posted on its message boards. ``We have no way of knowing who some of the people are,'' said John Place, Yahoo's general counsel. Place said Yahoo's policy is to refuse to surrender any user information unless a court orders it to do so. But even under a court order, he said Yahoo! would have a hard time identifying users. The case is one of many that are pushing courts to define privacy rights on the Internet. ``I would not want to limit people's ability to post information online,'' said Lois Rosenbaum, a partner at the Portland law firm of Stoel Rives. ``But I would like to see some accountability for what they posted.'' Rosenbaum represented Beaverton-based Epitope in a 1993 case against a man who posted critical remarks about the company on a public bulletin board on the Prodigy online service. In that case, the comments turned out to be from a stockbroker with an interest in driving down the price of Epitope's shares. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- james 'keith' thomson <jkthomson(a)bigfoot.com> www.bigfoot.com/~ceildh jkthomson:C181 991A 405C EAFB 2C46 79B5 B1DC DB78 8196 122D [06.07.98] ceildh :1D79 59AF ED75 5945 6003 8240 DA34 ACCA 9DE4 6BC9 [05.14.98] ICQ:746241 <keys> at pgp.mit.edu ...and former sysop of tnbnog BBS ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "To assert that the earth revolves around the sun is as erroneous as to claim that Jesus was not born of a virgin." - Cardinal Bellarmine 1615, during the trial of Galileo =======================================================================

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17 Dec '03

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 04:07 PM 10/6/98 -0700, Michael Motyka wrote: >> ITALIAN dignitaries who fear being kidnapped are having >> microprocessor homing devices planted in their bodies so police can >> track them down if they are abducted. >> >Where can I buy one of these things for my cat? My master password is >tatooed inside her upper lip. > You must either have a large cat or an insecure password. Or a very precise veterinary tattooist.

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Re: CFV: comp.org.cauce moderated -- support privacy and anonymity
by Igor Chudov ＠ home 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

For your information -- all anonymity advocates take note of the comp.org.cauce Call For Votes which wants to outlaw anonymity. The Call For Votes has been posted to news.groups, with a very lively discussion that followed. You may be amused to read it. igor In news.groups, phelix(a)vallnet.com <phelix(a)vallnet.com> wrote: * On 14 Oct 1997 11:57:07 -0400, moz(a)server2.mich.com (John C. Mozena) wrote: * * >In article <slrn646v9m.e2u.ichudov(a)manifold.algebra.com>, * >Igor Chudov @ home <ichudov(a)algebra.com> wrote: * > * >>We have exposed your arguments against munging as bogus. * > * >You have exposed nothing but your ability to be hateful. * > * >>But, what do you have against anonymity? * > * >Nothing. What right do you have, though, to force me and others to * >inconvenience ourselves so you can post anonymously or protect yourself * >from spam? * > * >>Vote AGAINST comp.org.cauce which wants to outlaw anonymity and * >>use of spamblocked addresses. Go to news.groups and find the * >>CFV for comp.org.cauce, with the ballot enclosed. * > * >Vote for comp.org.cauce, which protects the utility of a newsgroup and the * >freedom of postmasters to not run anonymous posting services should they * >not so desire. * * Well, I just started reading this, and I didn't really know which way to * vote. But such an anti-anonymnity stance makes the choice clear: * * vote *NO*. * * Thanks for clearing things up, John. * * -- Phelix * -- - Igor. The average American spends a total of six (6) months in prison.

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InfoWar 9 (Part III of 'The True Story of the InterNet')
by Bianca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: SSNs (was Re: Internal Passports)
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:59 PM 8/5/96 -0700, Jamie Zawinski wrote: >Well, it would be nice if it was that easy. You (legally) need to give >the correct one to anyone who has to make a report about you to the IRS, >right? Such as your employer. Virtually no one in the history of the world has done any time for giving a false SS#. Considering the fact that millions of Americans daily drive drunk, exceed the lawful speed limit, drift through stop signs without coming to a complete halt pick each other up in bars and do a host of other things that are much more likely to get them in trouble than making up an SS#, I am constantly *amazed* that people always advise you not to do so. If it's good enough for the President of Israel, it's good enough for anyone. >Is it >needed to get a driver's license? (The fine print on the DMV forms says >"yes".) But most DMVs don't check and the SS is still resisting verification services (at least until the Immigration Bill passes). >Is it necessary to make use of employer-sponsored medical >insurance? (I suspect that the answer to this one is "no", except for >the fact that when my employer set up my medical insurance they let the >insurance company use my SSN as my insurance-related-ID-number. But in >any event, my dentist told me, "if you don't give it to us, they won't >pay.") Just make sure you give the insurance company and the doctor the same number. >If you already have a SSN, can you get a *new* one in any legal way? >(Sort of the same idea as changing your phone number to avoid >telemarketing scum...) The SS resists issuing new numbers in spite of widespread duplication and theft. Soon people will find themselves denied the right to work in this country unless the SS reverses this reluctance. If your SS# is stolen and used "too many times" in a future worker verification program, you're screwed. And there won't even be any welfare for you. Use Alta Vista to find the SS Number FAQ. There's more stuff. DCF

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Re: Zooko on JYA, cpunks, and surveillance (was: Re: Can't tell the kooks without a scorecard? Re: Monkey Wrenching the Echelon Engine)
by Dave Emery 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sat, Sep 05, 1998 at 07:38:09AM -0700, David Honig wrote: > At 10:25 PM 9/4/98 +0200, Zane Lewkowicz wrote: > > >I used to think that the feds would never bother to investigate > >the likes of us, but i've been proven wrong. So now i assume > >that all unencrypted mail is scanned (especially in light of > >ECHELON & UKUSA & such). > > And all encrypted mail is archived. > And that is the rub. The real danger of key escrow type schemes lies in the future decryption under a different political and legal climate of half forgotten traffic going back years and years - stuff fetched from vast secret archives of potentially interesting encrypted messages squirelled away in the off chance that some time in the future "they" will be in possession of the key to some of it and interested in the contents. And until crypto is universally used for almost everything, saving the entirety of the 1-5% or so of email traffic that is encrypted on the presumption that it wouldn't have been encrypted if it wasn't important might be a good strategy, even if only a tiny fraction of those messages can ever be broken. And certainly saving all of the cipher email traffic from people identified by traffic analysis (group membership, corrospondance with suspicious or known bad-actor people or places, match to profiles profane and devine, etc) is really a no-brainer. The critical thing needed to protect against this chilling threat is email tools that provide perfect forward secrecy. PGP and the like do not, and capturing thus PGP messages in the hope that later on one has access to the private key is a very useful practice. DH key exchange has been around a long time, but so far the tentacles of the NSA have kept it from being a standard automatic part of sendmail, MS Exchange and qmail... Certainly one might want to enclose PGP or SMIME email messages inside the encrypted tunnel to protect privacy in storage and the "store" of store and forward mail routing, but having a secure transport tunnel in the first place forces the vacuum cleaner hose to be attached in quite different places where it is likely to be much more visible and noticed. And sure IPSEC would be nice, but simply making the ESMTP traffic between a short list of mail router programs opaque would certainly leverage a small effort with a large result whilst upgrading TCP/IP stacks and routers is a large effort... I've long heard that the NSA fills warehouses with high density tapes of cyphertext they can't break or don't want to spend the resources to break on the off chance that later on the key will be available or the information deemed truly important enough for cryptanalysis where possible. And sometimes (as in the Venona decrypts) this pays off... -- Dave Emery N1PRE, die(a)die.com DIE Consulting, Weston, Mass. PGP fingerprint = 2047/4D7B08D1 DE 6E E1 CC 1F 1D 96 E2 5D 27 BD B0 24 88 C3 18

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John Brown
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Robert Hettinga wrote: >> And so on. Throughout history there have been those who spoke their >> mind. And others who told them to cool it, to not anger the local >> prince, to not rock the boat. > >No, Tim. Your analysis is too simple, here. My point is, all John >Brown & Co. did was get shot up one afternoon in Harper's Ferry. They >didn't help the cause of abolition one whit. "Lies My Teacher Told Me: Everything Your American History Textbook Got Wrong" by James W. Loewen, pages 167 through 169: "After 1890 textbook authors inferred Brown's madness from his plan, which admittedly was farfetched. Never mind that John Brown himself presciently told Frederick Douglass that the venture would make a stunning impact even if it failed. Nor that his twenty-odd followers can hardly be considered crazed too. Rather, we must recognize that the insanity with which historians have charged John Brown was never psychological. It was ideological. Brown's actions made no sense to textbook writers between 1890 and about 1970. To make no sense is to be crazy. "Clearly, Brown's contemporaries did not consider him insane. Brown's ideological influence in the month before his hanging, and continuing after his death, was immense. He moved the boundary of acceptable thoughts and deeds regarding slavery. Before Harpers Ferry, to be an abolitionist was not quite acceptable, even in the North. Just talking about freeing slaves - advocating immediate emancipation - was behavior at the outer limit of the ideological continuum. By engaging in armed action, including murder, John Brown made mere verbal abolitionism seem much less radical. "After an initial shock wave of revulsion against Brown, in the North as well as in the South, Americans were fascinated to hear what he had to say. In his 1859 trial John Brown captured the attention of the nation like no other abolitionist or slaveowner before or since. He knew it: `My whole life before had not afforded me one half the opportunity to plead for the right.' In his speech to the court on November 2, just before the judge sentenced him to die, Brown argued, `Had I so interfered in behalf of the rich, the powerful, it would have been all right.' He referred to the Bible, which he saw in the courtroom, `which teaches me that all things whatsoever I would that men should do to me, I should do even so to them. It teaches me further, to remember them that are in bonds as bound with them. I endeavored to act up to that instruction.' Brown went on to claim the high moral ground: `I believe that to have interfered as I have done, as I have always freely admitted I have done, in behalf of His despised poor, I did no wrong but right.' Although he objected that his impending death penalty was unjust, he accepted it and pointed to graver injustices. `Now, if it is deemed necessary that I should forfeit my life for the furtherance of the ends of justice, and mingle my blood further with the blood of my children and with the blood of millions in this slave country whose rights are disregarded by wicked, cruel, and unjust enactments, I say, let it be done.' "Brown's willingness to go to the gallows for what he thought was right had a moral force of its own. `It seems as if no man had ever died in America before, for in order to die you must first have lived,' Henry David Thoreau observed in a eulogy in Boston. `These men, in teaching us how to die, have at the same time taught us how to live.' Thoreau went on to compare Brown with Jesus of Nazareth, who had faced a similar death at the hands of the state. "During the rest of November, Brown provided the nation graceful instruction in how to face death. In Larchmont, New York, George Templeton Strong wrote in his diary, `One's faith in anything is terribly shaken by anybody who is ready to go to the gallows condemning and denouncing it.' Brown's letters to his family and friends softened his image, showed his human side, and prompted an outpouring of sympathy for his children and soon-to-be widow, if not for Brown himself. His letters to supporters and remarks to journalists, widely circulated, formed a continuing indictment of slavery. We see his charisma in this letter from `a conservative Christian' - so the author signed it - written to Brown in jail: `While I cannot approve of all your acts, I stand in awe of your position since your capture, and dare not oppose you lest I be found fighting against God; for you speak as one having authority, and seem to be strengthened from on high.' When Virginia executed John Brown on December 2, making him the first American since the founding of the nation to be hanged as a traitor, church bells mourned in cities throughout the North. Louisa May Alcott, William Dean Howells, Herman Melville, John Greenleaf Whittier, and Walt Whitman were among the poets who responded to the event. `The gaze of Europe is fixed at this moment on America,' wrote Victor Hugo from France. Hanging Brown, Hugo predicted, `will open a latent fissure that will finally split the Union asunder. The punishment of John Brown may consolidate slavery in Virginia, but it will certainly shatter the American Democracy. You preserve your shame but kill your glory.' "Brown remained controversial after his death. Republican congressmen kept their distance from his felonious acts. Nevertheless, Southern slaveowners were appalled at the show of Northern sympathy for Brown and resolved to maintain slavery by any means necessary, including quitting the Union if they lost the next election. Brown's charisma in the North, meanwhile, was not spent but only increased due to what many came to view as his martyrdom. As the war came, as thousands of Americans found themselves making the same commitment to face death that John Brown had made, the force of his example took on new relevance. That's why soldiers marched into battle singing `John Brown's Body'. Two years later, church congregations sang Julia Ward Howe's new words to the song: `As He died to make men holy, let us die to make men free' - and the identification of John Brown and Jesus Christ took another turn. The next year saw the 54th Massachusetts Colored Regiment parading through Boston to the tune, en route to its heroic destiny with death in South Carolina, while William Lloyd Garrison surveyed the cheering bystanders from a balcony, his hand resting on a bust of John Brown. In February 1865 another Massachusetts colored regiment marched to the tune through the streets of Charleston, South Carolina." -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNGpBnj7jyGKQlFZpAQEF5wf+Ld2UdeRWbtoYKqptJPbRArQX3xyP7r5t TQuLWdYqHfEmvO4RVbCnsk0qKqFYfRHN1hPRUeaj7Zf8Y3QRghUBn7QkrIPiP6bz TU8N/Jf0RLwMOJq+bl1/BgdT8Ax9FKTMYU/i5Ye6aC9cnMAGmXmx6XTGvrhFhhFM eoyj6dHm91vr5qSJBUMZto1hlXDeSee3RsrnfN8f24hagEEIppHsYFz8kKZQ/5I5 aHWewMZTYI4H6mSbmj51mXzTrhmGfxEK+qx8GIevh4zuF6uZ7/CvO2czERuIIMIO oJOICZQlDYsx8dgGHxGpmpGM/jkLeQjCngv7moQ0Kjd0KoVe84DDhw== =ESwB -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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F2 hash?
by anonymous-remailer＠shell.portal.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Does anyone have a descriptoin of the F2 hash? F2 is a secret hash from SecurityDynamics, and is used in their client software. (Its not the hash in the cards, but if anyone has a copy of that, it might be fun.) I'd be very interested in seeing source code in the public domain to try out a few hacks... Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller?

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Re:
by AJD013187＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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