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Remailer Operator Liability?
by John A. Perry 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Now that the CDA decision has been made, I was wondering how this would affect the liability status of the various remailer operators? In the past several remailers have opted to discontinue service due to legal/political pressure. Will this CDA decision help to decrease remailer operator liability? John Perry - perry(a)alpha.jpunix.com - PGP-encrypted e-mail welcome! WWW - http://www.jpunix.com PGP 2.62 key for perry(a)jpunix.com is on the keyservers.

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Re: cypherpunk license: PLEASE STEAL ME (Re: GPL & commercial software, the critical distinction) (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1998 03:22:27 +0100 > From: Adam Back <aba(a)dcs.ex.ac.uk> > Subject: Re: cypherpunk license: PLEASE STEAL ME (Re: GPL & commercial software, the critical distinction) (fwd) > Yes, I know, I have read LGPL a few times, and it does include the > sorts of exceptions you describe. But I said GPL, and GPL is the > license which I was suggesting causes problems. As I said, LGPL is > sort of useable. GPL and LGPL both support fully this model of commercial use of L/GPL'ed code. > Right, this is the major sticking point for commercial people I find. I find most commercial people lack imagination, though they make up for it with a desire for money. > Yes, but the more interesting, less restrictive case is where they > really want to modify the code. cf the example I gave of say adding > pgp5 compatibility to pgp26ui. There would be no significant problem if you include the necessary stubs and make them L/GPL'ed. By both the L/GPL the use of 3rd party code (L/GPL'ed, PD, or proprietary) hanging off those stubs would NOT be L/GPL'ed. > I think that if you modify to any significant extent a GPL peice of > software, and try to sell it you could run into problems. There is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING in the L/GPL that prevents me from selling such code at whatever price I can manage to charge for it, I could even change it significantly. I, however, MUST include the source code or provide it for a reasonable fee if requested by the end user. Your point is irrelevant. Now if I try to sell it as (my) *copyrighted* code then I'm in for a world of hurt and justifiably so. This, again, desire to take advantage of others work is the hallmark of thieves and marketing droids (if there is a difference between the two). > Your legal > bill for trying to work out how bad it is will be expensive. Will be nil. The L/GPL themselves clearly state they don't override previous copyrights of material that might be used with L/GPL'ed products. That L/GPL subsumption ONLY applies to code that is built using L/GPL'ed source. In other words for the L/GPL to be inovked on your code requires that you use somebodies elses L/GPL'ed code in (NOT with) your code. This is clearly understood by businesses that do use gcc/egc in that they use no libraries, headers, etc. from L/GPL sources, develop them in-house or buy them from 3rd parties. They only use the compiler/linker/tools to get hooked together. > If you want to be creative, you could do what you want to it ignoring > the license, then provide a binary patch from their binary to your > binary. Or whatever. Commercial lawyers are cautious animals though, > so because you could theoretically hack around things does not mean > that some company's lawyer is going to recommend that they do it. The goal of the L/GPL is NOT to stop commercial programming, it is to return to the end user a level of control and understanding (at least in principle) so they may build a system to do what they want and not some marketing droid at a multi-national. This is NO hack, it is specificaly detailed in the L/GPL as a legitimate use of such licensed code. > That aspect of LGPL (availability of source) is useful to the extent > that it encourages people to make source of the crypto parts > available. No, it suggests they should make the API definition available. As to it being useful, it is critical to the long term stability of systems and the continued development of imaginative software. > Use of GNU development tools is a different, and more straight forward > issue than using GNU licensed code. Only if you don't understand the L/GPL. > The point remains: the simplest and best thing to do about licenses if > you are more concerned about crypto deployment than source > availability is not to use GPL, and probably to avoid LGPL also. No, the best thing to do is build your copyrighted libraries and release the API's via headerfiles or whatever in the GPL'ed code. > Use BSD, use PD, either is better than GPL for the purpose. No, they're not because in PD you loose ALL control of your code and if somebody else uses it in a commercial app or not then you're pretty much screwed as they laugh their asses off on the way to the bank. Considering the extend of BSD that would be the last choice of an OS that I would bank my business on. ____________________________________________________________________ The seeker is a finder. Ancient Persian Proverb The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Zimmerman/Viacrypt
by Omegaman 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > From: Steve Reid <root(a)edmweb.com> > > > Phil disagrees with ViaCrypts new "business" version of PGP which > > apparently encrypts all messages with an employer-supplied public key > > in addition to any specified by the employee. > > Looking at Denning's critique (pro-escrow rant) of the NCR crypto report, > she mentioned that mutant version: > > [http://www.cosc.georgetown.edu/~denning/crypto/NRC.txt] > "Other corporations are similarly adopting products with data recovery > capabilities as they integrate encryption into their systems (even PGP > comes with data recovery in Viacrypt's Business Edition)." > > IMHO Phil Zimmerman has good reason to object to the mutant version, if > it's going to cause the PGP name to somehow endorse escrow. I don't have a problem with companies escrowing keys or using a function like that described for Viacrypt's for official company business. Employees should be made fully aware, however, that their communications are being copied to a company archive. There should be no illusion about the privacy of company communications using company-owned software. For private communications, they should still use a personal copy of PGP or other encryption software of their choice. $.02 me -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMcFkO6b3EfJTqNC9AQFO5QP+N80T9b9qezlnf15hNsc9lIJoMihNVo/1 8d7bK8Hv4HSAc0FicP9JRSU7jKhm4nTDR0XUnmMeEFLEvq6ari1GdYr9K/HFcIWW AtgC9MGGMqAoCIrMt1oOm9WosrfQcNQfij5ENC8lZlWW01y9YXhXpP9CzcsZmNlz 3rjA7c70MuQ= =JUw7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ------------------------------------------------------------ Omegaman <omega(a)bigeasy.com> PGP Key fingerprint = 6D 31 C3 00 77 8C D1 C2 59 0A 01 E3 AF 81 94 63 ------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: PBS show
by Blake Wehlage 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 03:24 PM 6/14/96 -0500, David E. Smith wrote: >>I know i will regret saying this but: >> >>The mac OS is 3 times better than Windows '95 >> > >Gee, what's three times zero? > >dave > > > > 48? you can thank the public education system for that answer. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Blake "Pokey" Wehlage Age-13 Gaa- 3.69 (for ice hockey goalie) <jwilk(a)iglou.com> My page- http://www.iglou.com/members/jwilk.html Quote- Does whiskey count as beer? -Homer Simpson

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Re: PBS show
by Ryan Russell/SYBASE 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

143K. Per side. Ryan ---------- Previous Message ---------- The original Apple II floppy held ONLY 90 kilobytes on a 5" floppy. How did they do such a bad job?

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SF Bay Area: 6/18 Smart Talk on WhoWhere? (fwd)
by Rich Graves 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

FYI. Sounds like a venture capital shindig. Pity I won't be able to make it. That would have been Highly Amusing. -rich ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: 13 Jun 1996 16:03:52 -0400 From: Leslie Kareckas <lesliek(a)svi.org> Newsgroups: ba.smartvalley, ba.announce Subject: 6/18 Smart Talk on WhoWhere? ***************************************************************** PLEASE NOTE NEW LOCATION ***************************************************************** SMART TALK Sponsored by Smart Valley, Inc. and Gemini Management Consulting SPEAKER: Gunjan Sinha President, WhoWhere? TITLE: WhoWhere?: The Global White Pages of the Internet DATE: Tuesday, June 18, 1996 TIME: 7:30 AM - 9:00 AM LOCATION: Smart Valley, Inc. 2520 Mission College Blvd. Santa Clara CONTACT: Isabel Sarkis - IsabelS(a)svi.org or 408-562-7794 ABSTRACT WhoWhere? is the largest directory of personal and corporate phone numbers, physical addresses and e-mail addresses on the Internet. As the Net rapidly evolves, defines and redefines itself, WhoWhere? provides a worldwide collection of fundamental information which serves both individual and business communication needs. It has become the Global White Pages and enables people to locate others around the world, whether they are on or off the Net. Gunjan Sinha will share the challenges associated with building and maintaining this type of directory and the ways in which it can be utilized. BIO Prior to forming WhoWhere? Inc., Gunjan Sinha was the architect of video servers at Olivetti Advanced Technology, where he developed interactive video servers. He was also involved with multiprocessor and distributed server development. Earlier is his career, Sinha was the co-founder of Viman Software Inc., a network license management company, which was later acquired by Central Designs Systems Inc. Sinha holds a Masters in Engineering Management from Stanford University, and a Masters in Computer Engineering from the University of California at Santa Cruz. DIRECTIONS: Take the Great America Parkway exit North from 101. Turn right at the first traffic light (Mission College Boulevard) and go straight approximately three blocks. Turn right into the second UB Networks driveway. Smart Valley is on the left at 2520 Mission College Blvd. There is ample parking throughout the campus. ************************************************************** All are welcome to attend this Smart Talk. Admission is free to individual members and all employees of Smart Valley member companies. Non-members are charged a $5.00 fee. Continental breakfast is included. Reservations are required as seating is limited. RSVP to Isabel Sarkis at IsabelS(a)svi.org or 408-562- 7794. Smart Talk announcements can also be found on the Web (http://www.svi.org)

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Mission Anonymous / U.S. News & World Report
by printing＠explicit.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: IP: Wired News: Y2Kaboom?
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Make that "inappropriate" behavior. >The fact that one entity is enaging in appropriate behavior does not excuse the >rest. -Declan At 11:30 AM 11-16-98 -0800, b!X wrote: >On Mon, 16 Nov 1998, Declan McCullagh wrote: > ># I hope that in the future, "Believer" would see fit not to distribute Wired ># News articles in full. Not only does it violate civil and criminal ># copyright law, but it's also just plain rude. > >Hey Congress gets to insert the full test of articles into the Congressional >Record as much they want, why can't we? ;) > > >- b!X (Guerrilla Techno-fetishist @ GEEK Force) >

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WEB: Child molester database
by Damaged Justice 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Along with the arms trafficker page, now we have a "child molester database": http://www.greatworld.com/public Deadbeat Dads, Drug Dealers and more, coming soon according to blurb. -- http://yakko.cs.wmich.edu/~frogfarm ...for the best in unapproved information "We think people like seeing somebody in a uniform on the porch." -US Postal spokeswoman, quoted in AP, 1/27/96. I don't know about you, but most people I know who saw someone in uniform on their porch would pull out the shotgun...

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update.275 (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: >From physnews(a)aip.org Fri Jun 14 18:39:08 1996 Date: Fri, 14 Jun 96 16:45:16 EDT From: physnews(a)aip.org (AIP listserver) Message-Id: <9606142045.AA11832(a)aip.org> To: physnews-mailing(a)aip.org Subject: update.275 PHYSICS NEWS UPDATE The American Institute of Physics Bulletin of Physics News Number 275 June 14, 1996 by Phillip F. Schewe and Ben Stein THE FIRST QUANTUM COMMUNICATION USES "TRITS" INSTEAD OF BITS. For the first time, physicists have exploited the laws of quantum mechanics to send data, and with their technique have conveyed information more efficiently than with traditional means. In contrast to a traditional computer, in which messages consist of tiny electric pulses encoded in binary form (i.e., streams of 0s and 1s), researchers at the University of Innsbruck in Austria send messages consisting of single photons which can be coded as 0s, 1s, and 2s, setting up a base three system called "trits." The Innsbruck group (Harald Weinfurter, harald.weinfurter(a)uibk.ac.at) converts a single ultraviolet photon into two photons whose properties are quantum mechanically interlinked, or "entangled." Devices then encode a 0, 1, or 2 onto one of the photons by performing an operation on it (such as flipping its spin or shifting its phase); since the devices are blind to the initial state of the photon, they change the overall properties of the entangled photon pair without determining its final state. The two photons are recombined and then the interlinked pair travels towards a network of detectors. Two-photon interference creates three different sets of detection possibilities in the Innsbruck setup that reveal the quantum state of the entangled pair and whether the photon was encoded with a 0, 1, or 2. The physics of entanglement has been exploited in numerous recent experiments, to build quantum logic gates (Update 250) and perform an atom-level demonstration of Schrodinger's cat (Update 273), but until now it has never been used for quantum communication---encoding a message at one location and receiving it at another. Furthermore, the same information contained in a typical ASCII character, normally requiring the use of 8 bits, can also be transmitted using only 5 trits. (K. Mattle et al, Physical Review Letters, 17 June 1996. More information and graphics can be found at http://www.uibk.ac.at/c/c7/c704/qo/photon/_qdc) THE CLOSEST EXTRA-SOLAR PLANET yet discovered orbits the star Lalande 21185, only 8.1 light years from Earth. George Gatewood of the University of Pittsburgh observed a telltale wobble in the light coming from the star, indicating the presence of a Jupiter-sized planet circling the star in a Saturn-sized orbit. Gatewood's data, presented at the meeting of the American Astronomical Society in Madison, WI, even hinted at the possibility of other planets in the same solar system. (Washington Post, 12 June.) Also, another planet has been found by Geoff Marcy of San Francisco State and Paul Butler of Berkeley, who announced two new planets in January 1996. Their new find is a Jupiter-sized planet orbiting the star Rho Cancri (40 light years from Earth) at a distance of only 0.1 astronomical units. It completes a "year" in only about two Earth weeks. (Sky & Telescope, July 1996) A MOVIE OF THE CRAB NEBULA provides new details about pulsar dynamics. At the heart of the nebula is a pulsar (the remnant of a 1000-year-old supernova) which casts powerful streams of particles into the surrounding debris-filled medium. The Hubble Space Telescope has recorded a sequence of pictures which show where much of the pulsar's energy goes. One surprise was how quickly the landscape alters: noticeable changes in the region around the pulsar sometimes occurred in a matter of days. A second surprise is that the outward flow of energy is confined largely to two zones: jets shooting out from the poles and wisps of material in the pulsar's equatorial plane. (Science News, 8 June; Science, 7 June.)

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