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Re: Goldbach's Conjecture - a question about prime sums of odd numbers (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1998 12:18:26 -0500 > From: Ray Arachelian <sunder(a)brainlink.com> > Subject: Re: Goldbach's Conjecture - a question about prime sums of odd numbers > So I guess I have to take back 7+5+(-1) and go with Jim's 1+3+7, but fuck, > that won't work either since 1 isn't a prime... So I guess Igor is right on > this one. Sorry Jim... A prime is defined as *ANY* number (note the definition doesn't mention sign or magnitude nor does it exclude any numbers a priori) that has no multiplicative factors other than itself and 1. 1 * 1 = 1 so it is clearly prime. Now, if a particular branch of number theory wants to extend it and make it only numbers >=2 that is fine, I'm not working in that branch anyway. ____________________________________________________________________ Lawyers ask the wrong questions when they don't want the right answers. Scully (X-Files) The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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17 Dec '03

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Re: e$
by jdd＠aiki.demon.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In message <9408091402.AA23089(a)snark.imsi.com> perry(a)imsi.com writes: > > point. The US government does not object to the use of financial > > instruments so long as they are backed by the US $ (or another > > accepted currency). > > Yes it does. Bearer bonds are illegal in the US. Perhaps my use of terms was insufficiently precise. Bearer bonds do not actually represent money in the same sense that a check does. Their value [usually] fluctuates. They are a different kind of financial instrument. > > Most of us use such financial instruments daily > > -- checks and credit cards, for examples. Most financial transactions > > involve no cash at all. > > The point is that anonymous transactions are coming under increasing > regulation. Commercial paper and the like is not a problem. Hmmm. Neither of the types of financial transactions that I listed is anonymous. If A writes a check to 'cash', pays B with it, and B passes it on to C, and so forth, are you saying that this is or will one day be illegal? -- Jim Dixon

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Re: CDA Yes Votes; Collection
by Kevin S. Van Horn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- tallpaul(a)pipeline.com (tallpaul) wrote: > >Isn't it the libertarian types on the list who are into mass killings of >civilians with nukes and the "socialist statists" who tend to oppose it? No. Tim May is the first person I've ever encountered who calls himself a libertarian and yet thinks dropping the Bomb on Hiroshima and Nagasaki was justified. I think that, from a consistent libertarian perspective, using the Bomb was equivalent to taking out a Mafia chieftain by napalming the neighborhood in which he lived. Perhaps the bad guy being targetted was a killer who deserved to die, but that doesn't justify snuffing his neighbors. Kevin S. Van Horn vanhorn(a)excite.com - --- [This message has been signed by an auto-signing service. A valid signature means only that it has been received at the address corresponding to the signature and forwarded.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Gratis auto-signing service iQBFAwUBMST1ESoZzwIn1bdtAQFCegGAyCaAyaqlvc9RH5spAgrCDdmDJZkZdLTP S3xc/wODYWYfEiSPv0v5FPIMCZ7k2lj/ =0HrG -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: A brief comparison of email encryption protocols
by spock 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hello Ralph, Thanks for your interest in S/MIME. A couple of minor corrections to your comparison seem to be in order. >S/MIME is an attempt to graft MIME support onto underlying PEM >standards. See http://www.rsa.com/rsa/S-MIME/ for more info. S/MIME integrates PKCS #7 and #10 message services (not PEM) into MIME. >Probably the most controversial aspect of S/MIME is its signature >format. An S/MIME signed message is a MIME multipart in which the >first part is the data to be signed, and the second part is a >complete PKCS #7 (section 10) signed message. Although the description of this format is accurate, this format is only documented as an option, not the primary signature format. This option has been supplied for backward compatability to address a mixed (S/MIME-aware and non-S/MIME aware) audience of recipients. The primary signature format is a PKCS #7 signed message (including signed MIME content) carried in a single body part: application/x-pkcs7-mime.

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Internet show on PBS
by L. Detweiler 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

from author of `Zen & the Internet', don't miss it! ===cut=here=== Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1993 16:03:12 -0700 From: Brendan Kehoe <brendan(a)zen.org> The Computer Chronicles (a show on PBS) will be doing a program about the Internet, to be aired on your local PBS station the week of November 1st. It'll have stuff about World Wide Web (demo'd by April Marine at NASA Ames), virtual communities (with Howard Rheingold), the Net in general (me), Internet Talk Radio (with Carl Malamud), the gigabit testbeds [I think] (with someone from Bellcore), and something with Phil Kahn at ARPA. The producer of it is really psyched; it sounds like it's gonna be pretty cool. Brendan - -- Brendan Kehoe brendan(a)zen.org Stop the murder! Support dolphin-free networking. ------- End of Forwarded Message

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Re: Using lasers to communicate
by frantz＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:44 PM 2/17/96 -0500, SINCLAIR DOUGLAS N wrote: >> If you have a secure link you don't need encryption. Arguably, the >> converse is true; if you have secure encryption you don't need >> a secure link. Isn't the ability to transmit secure data over >> insecure channels one of the primary justifications for encryption? >> > >Of course. My point, though I seem to have failed to state it, >is that encryption is a cheap software thing while laser beams >are expensive, complicated, and still not secure. Ah yes, but software without hardware doesn't do much. Wires are expensive, and in many places you can't string them across public right-of-ways. The distance from my house to my neighbor across the street is less than 200 feet. I suspect some form of optical link would work fairly well. I also think it would be hard to tap. I think my point is, don't throw something out of your tool bag just because you can't use it everywhere. Bill

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THE CYPHERPUNK CAUSE
by L. Detweiler 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

now I understand why `someone' told me in private email, `THERE IS NO CYPHERPUNKS CAUSE. GET THIS DELUSION OUT OF YOUR HEAD.'

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by Mailer-Daemon＠ig4.att.att.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Counting bits Fast
by norm＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I hear that there may be those out there burning many compute cycles counting one bits in piles of data. There is code at http://www.MediaCity.com/~norm/Hamming.html that might provide a factor of ten over more obvious bit counting code.

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