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LD's "Contest"
by W. Kinney 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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alt.w.a.s.t.e.
by qwerty＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Kewl title, but alt.test alredy exists and if you create alt.w.a.s.t.e. you announce to the entire anal retentive world that you are using Usenet to send private encrypted messages. That will alert everyone to start scanning alt.test too for such things and tattling on the remailer sites as being where these things are coming from. Nobody will CARRY alt.w.a.s.t.e. if they know that's what the group is for! Many sites don't carry alt.test even, but they do carry misc.test, if I understand right. Nobody's going to rmgroup alt.test or misc.test!! But you can bet they'll rmgroup alt.w.a.s.t.e. Duh. -=Xenon=-

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List of forbidden mathematics?
by tcmay＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Do any of you have a current list of banned mathematics topics handy? I was reading a number theory book (Rosen) and got worried that I might be stumbling into some of the areas forbidden to private citizens. I have e-mail in to Professor Denning, author of the Index, for guidance on what mathematics is and is not allowed, but she has not yet responded. Meanwhile, until I hear from her or get a special waiver, I've put the book away. I'm hoping that Rosen's introductory text is not treated as "crypto paraphernalia," even though it's sold over the counter at Computer Literacy, Stacey's, and other such "head shops." --Tim, getting more worried after the arrests at Amateur Crypto BBS, where the owners received an unsolicited data packet from Tennessee and were then prompty arrested by the Data Police -- .......................................................................... Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)netcom.com |anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero 408-688-5409 | knowledge, reputations, information markets, W.A.S.T.E.: Aptos, CA | black markets, collapse of governments. Higher Power:2**859433 | Public Key: PGP and MailSafe available.

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Clarification RE: Nazis on the Net
by an57322＠anon.penet.fi 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

DrZaphod wrote: > That may have been just a snide comment.. but I'll address >it anywayz... are you applying the old logic of "Germany is screwed up", >"Germany is democratic", "U.S. is democratic -- we MUST be screwed up!" >Cuz that logic doesn't work in real life.. maybe on the net, tho. Sorry for being unclear. This is what I was trying to say: I am an anarchist and don't like Nazis. However, I believe that everyone should have the right to say what they believe needs to be said. By making it illegal to let certain parts of society know how to start a newspaper (assuming this is true), the German government employs the very same principles it is trying to fight. Furthermore, I believe that a government in power that use fascist methods (such as taking away one's right to publsh a paper) is more dangerous to society as a whole than some juvenile hotheads, whose crazy ideas probably would be rather discredited than being help by putting out for everyone to read. As for the analogy to the US: I see the constant increase in attempts to censor the media as a warning that perhaps some day soon it may be illegal to tell someone in the US how to go about publishing your own paper. Peace, -= T.A.Z. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- To find out more about the anon service, send mail to help(a)anon.penet.fi. Due to the double-blind, any mail replies to this message will be anonymized, and an anonymous id will be allocated automatically. You have been warned. Please report any problems, inappropriate use etc. to admin(a)anon.penet.fi.

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Magic Money bug removed
by remailer＠merde.dis.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Anonymous writes: >It appears that the problem with bigendian magic money is specific >to the "mint" function. Minting one coin works OK, but minting more >than one causes every coin after the first to be rejected by the client. >Creating a coins.dat file with the -p function of the client works OK, >even with more than one coin. Sending the output.asc to the server works >OK too, as does handling the ascii file that comes back from the server. >Only minting fails. Thank you for finding this one. That was not a big-endian problem, that was simple stupidity on my part. When I added the coinid field to the protocoin structure, I forgot to move the free(pc); down to the next line. So the coinid was getting freed and then written. Version E is on its way to csn.org. By the way MPJ, did you get pgptl10b? Pr0duct Cypher mp_modexp_crt(c->c.value,pc->c.value,sk->p.value,sk->q.value, dp,dq,sk->u.value); free(pc); <-------------------- DUMB MISTAKE pgp_fix_mpi(&c->c); f=fifo_file_create(fp); fifo_put(MM_REGCOIN,f); fifo_aput(pc->coinid,16,f); pgp_create_mpi(f,&c->e); pgp_create_mpi(f,&c->c); fifo_destroy(f); free(c); <-------------- MOVE IT HERE! free(d); } -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQCVAgUBLVtnbsGoFIWXVYodAQHaZgP+JfohckwzIVLvFB3K+r+ywl9ee53h5387 XycJ+qqjnHvLyPp4wTgfYaYnpqLAOzYDGZkq834pQ3EoE83fr++OmA70CpugXwX/ 6cFTFtc3mK3Lp+MTc5tKJxVe3ktuL4DFY1c80gcbapur4PCw/NS/BIWQQIZNXtwu gJH7lPjRno4= =I0+O -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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They`re Baaaaack!
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

For the second week in a row; the Admin, fascism, and computers made the front page of the Saturday NYT. "U.S. Seeks Wiretap Software for Law Enforcement" They are going to legislate the Digital Telephony Initiative or the kinder, gentler, version thereof. Telecoms customers will get to pay $300+ million to tap themselves. The Klinton proposal is alleged to be mellower than Bush's because it exempts "private networks." That means it's meaningless since virtually all future voice and data services will be delivered over "private networks." DCF "But the President of the United States *is* named Schicklgruber." -- Firesign Theater Liberation Front --- WinQwk 2.0b#1165

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Re: Oh No! Nazis on the Nets
by greg＠ideath.goldenbear.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- "Perry E. Metzger" <uunet!lehman.com!pmetzger> writes: > I'll remind you that the supreme court has held that text-only works > can not be held to be obscene. You can write anything you want, > including explicit descriptions of sodomizing dead children, and it > can not be censored. As I mentioned to Perry in E-mail, the above is incorrect. Pure text can be obscene and hence unprotected by the First Amendment. Kaplan v. California, 413 U.S. 115, 118-119, 93 S.Ct. 2680, 2683-2684 (1973). Others here (Mike Godwin?) can likely provide a much better discussion of just where this fits into First Amendment law; Shepherds' reveals no more recent decisions which modify the holding in Kaplan. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.4 iQCVAgUBLVxTKX3YhjZY3fMNAQEd2wP7BmUq0bUzhdhSg9+/Y/+by1C+p0dEu2ef Q8c0nlzkux6cUBQPrr18/c+dAmMQ4x+Dofr/0N1jF+q9uffnVmeVa9qQjzB1SzJy 9PCsXI7x/7B1bNZFuegliJvUn7aD7UqBBS9Au7/nlZ6Ky8Gb6G0HadrIaZyP9yQy PuQh+QDXTnY= =F0SC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Greg Broiles ".. has bizarre Cyberanarchist theories relating greg(a)goldenbear.com to human punishment." -- L. Detweiler

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Blatant Plug
by Chris Goggans 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Broadening the use of Cryptography
by Matthew Bernardini 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Maybe I have just missed something in this whole discussion, so please hold back the flames, but has a SIMPLE desktop mailer that encrypts using PGP been writen and widely distributed on any platform ? The common person will only do something if you make it simple for them to access. The attitude of don't complain, write the code youself won't fly with average Joe who wants to help by spreading the use of PGP. Most people have barely just enough time to worry about reading the news and checking their mail, let alone downlaod, compile and implement an encryption scheme. The priority should be to get people encrypting first, then worry about whether they understand the protocol for double-blind remailers. It seems to me that Universities should be the highest priority for spreading the use of PGP. It is the students who are willing to adapt to new technology the quickest. Some sort of product should be developed that can be distributed on the PC and Mac, like Pegasus mail (for those that are familiar with it), that will support PGP. It all comes down to marketing. Why not make a nice free-ware game that can carry a Cypher bill-board with it ? How many people see the Maelstrom start up screen on a Mac ? X-tetris on Unix ? Minesweeper on Dos ? It seems to me that widespread advertising should be a higher priority if PGP is going to succede. Matthew Bernardini

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Re: The Clipper connection
by freeman＠MasPar.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Keith Henson comments on the realities of obtaining subpoenas and wiretaps: > [...] I cannot help but note that if persons of good will should choose to attempt to improve the uniformity and correctness of application of law to circumstances such as those Keith mentions, a well-written expert system with a friendly user interface might be part of the solution. (This observation is a little borderline for cypherpunks but it does in principle involve writing code...) -- Jay Freeman

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