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Re: Burnmore & Databasix
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A Voice <scorpion(a)anon.nymserver.com> wrote: > Gary L. Burnore wrote : > > >The anonasshole is now working on his "way out of this". > >Expect many more of his posts to contain bits of how more > >than one person posting anonymously is > >making the accusations. All is falling down around the anonasshole. > > Been lurking and reading this anon vs. Burnmore thing for a while. He's engaging in wishful thinking. Fanciful, paranoid theories about his critics (such as imagining that he only has one <g>) are apparently intended to divert attention from his own tactics and activities. > >We'd expect no less. I do wonder how long it will take before those who > >believe remailers are a good thing start to realise this asshole has > >it in for them. Everything it posts could be used by the anti-remailer > >front as a reason to shut them all down. Much of this "anti-remailer front" works for DataBasix. Notice the classic disinformation tactics that Gary Burnore is engaging in here. But notice that Gary was part of this "anti-remailer front" that used ALLEGED forgeries and "spam baiting" to get two remailers shut down. It is interesting that he now attributes the activities of himself and his associates at DataBasix with this unnamed "anti-remailer front". > That, IMO, is what you're up to. You and the Databasix thugs took a > couple of re-mailers down. You staged the whole thing. > > It should be clear to any thinking person that this group of thugs have an > anti-privacy motivation. > > Sadly, I also think they do this for shits and giggles. Gary Burnore, Belinda Bryan <eridani(a)netcom.com>, William "Wotan" McClatchie <wmcclatc(a)primenet.com> seem to want privacy for themselves but at the same time they also want to be able to identify their critics. Strangely enough, several of Gary's non-anonymous critics have reported harassment, forged posts, spam-baiting, etc. Probably just a "coincidence", right? Which makes one wonder why Gary and Belinda wanted to get ahold of the logs from the Huge Cajones Remailer which would have identified anyone who ever sent or even received anonymous mail through that remailer. Gary and Belinda have consistently stonewalled that question. My guess is that they were counting on Jeff keeping that dirty little secret of theirs hidden. Helena Kobrin and the Church of Scientology weren't able to bully that information out of Jeff and neither were Gary, Belinda, and DataBasix, for the simple reason that Jeff was smart enough not to collect it in the first place!

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Does anyone know how to get Glide to work???
by No One 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I compiled glide.c and tried it. But all I could get from it was some numbers listed on the screen. I couldn't make anything from them. In other words, I didn't understand a thing. Did I do somethin wrong? Please help me. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Spam Kings Wanted !
by chris moss 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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by http://www.musicblvd.com/ 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Staff changes at the Center for Democracy and Technology
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Shabbir begged: >I'm feeling very left out. Insult me immediately please. Very well. It's a fact that Dick Morris, Stephanopoulos and Gorelick are your business feeds, Scaife, Gates and Dell are your sugardaddies and USG, SG, and CN have bought you for a Net chokehold campaign of global scare dupery, combined with deal for industry giants to ruin workaround pygmies. Your pure-gold credential is all the folks who once trusted you to never, ever swap principle for piles of moola (and cut them out). Now admit it, you're beating hire-me's and lie-for-me's off with a stick. Listen, I've got a near-indicted who needs you.

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Cantsin package
by Steffen Zahn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hello, I have updated my package for Cantsin No. 2 signatures to the new version 0.3. New things: - faster key generation - a mechanism to allow the storage of the private key encrypted with an external encryption program. Example included. - it is possible to sign only a part of a document. Url: http://www.snafu.de/~zahn/cantsin.tar.gz (86 Kbytes) SHA1: 0EBF0D27794D800AB405C2857D7E05A35AFBDA43 -- home email: user@domain where domain=berlin.snafu.de, user=zahn Use of my address for unsolicited commercial advertising is forbidden. "Where do you want to crash today?" 25BA1A9F5B9010DD8C752EDE887E9AF3 [Cantsin Protocol No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antsin Protocol No. 2] 712ADCBCF936ECA98E9F5D12AE0138F0436836A1 3E867F56C28C9FF74CC3DB24778ECE43ECEB4999 -3ED FB 2E1FAA33F5F505BE6484FB709858D29D9581A311E0255398214BA00CD56514C216DEE12C58E09FC490C34428D2231A25297D52C4C0FF7DA527848D93F48EE0CA360A24F6B45948878832BC7159B59DE588121CD28A53CF3E3CB32ACA2A4FAE783CB1E699495A9D056F649F6A0E51B252AE42F5703882E6F82116795FD68C889459FED62A674A83F4064 99392BC9B969C2853FC581B9B69C6F375F7DD0225DE3BB91606DCEF6969FEE32CD9A6C4EF9750CE590B092818F1629730BB51A4865C1162F1D8CEAF478334A58C9285D97C8D31E485C062936ED185BEB3B66739D1FFEF6C0FEAF0228AF6039DBB9E38C6248F9983A660CB6B68F2483CEB5581E3C6CA125678D005E8AB9AE220338B9F2BA569C84370EB

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Only criminals don't support concealed-carry laws
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Fri, 12 Dec 1997 08:18:04 -0800 To: Robert Hettinga <rah(a)shipwright.com> From: Somebody Subject: Only criminals don't support concealed-carry laws >.> > =============================================== > NEWS FROM THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY > 2600 Virginia Avenue, NW, Suite 100 > Washington DC 20037 > =============================================== > For release: December 9, 1997 > =============================================== > For additional information: > George Getz, Deputy Director of Communications > Phone: (202) 333-0008 Ext. 222 > E-Mail: 76214.3676(a)CompuServe.com > =============================================== > > > The evidence is clear: Only criminals don't > support concealed-carry laws, say Libertarians > > WASHINGTON, DC -- If you want to reduce crime, allow more > people to carry more concealed guns, the Libertarian Party said today. > > And that opinion is confirmed by a new Cato Institute study, > which found that violent crime rates dropped dramatically in the 24 > states that have passed "concealed-carry" laws -- which allow ordinary > citizens to carry concealed weapons. > > "At this point, the only people who don't support > concealed-carry laws are criminals," said Steve Dasbach, the party's > national chairman. > > In those 24 states, concealed-carry laws force local police to > grant most citizens a concealed weapon permit after meeting certain > qualifications. Usually, that includes getting fingerprinted, passing a > criminal background check, and taking a gun safety course. > > "For years, gun-control advocates claimed that laws allowing > concealed weapons would lead to murder and mayhem," said Steve Dasbach, > chairman of the Libertarian Party. "But the exact opposite is true: > Concealed weapons actually save lives." > > The Cato Institute study, timed to coincide with the 10-year > anniversary of Florida's controversial concealed-carry law, found that > in the 24 states with concealed-carry laws, murders dropped by 7.7%, > rapes fell by 5.2%, robberies decreased by 2.2%, and aggravated > assaults were reduced by 7%. > > And in states where politicians continue to outlaw concealed > weapons? > > "There's blood in the streets," Dasbach said. "After accounting > for all other factors, the study calculated that in 1992 alone, 1,414 > more people were murdered than would have been if concealed-carry laws > were in effect." > > And the carnage doesn't end there: An additional 4,177 people > were raped, 11,898 more were robbed, and 60,363 more assaulted solely > as a result of the increased criminal activity that apparently comes > with concealed weapons bans, the study said. > > "But who is surprised that violent street thugs prefer to prey > on people who can't shoot back?" Dasbach asked. "By refusing to approve > concealed-carry laws, politicians in other states have painted a target > on the back of America's most vulnerable citizens." > > The study also shoots a hole in two other gun-control myths, > Dasbach said. One is that concealed-carry laws will resurrect the "Wild > West," turning ordinary Americans into trigger-happy gunslingers. > > "The study found that the number of concealed-carry > permit-holders convicted of murder committed in public is exactly zero, > and less serious crimes are extremely rare," he said. For example, only > one in 5,000 Floridians have had their permits revoked for crimes > involving a firearm. > > The other myth: That accidental shootings will become > commonplace. > > "The number of accidental deaths increased so slightly (less > than half of 1%) that implementing concealed-carry laws in every > remaining state would result in less than one additional death per year > - -- far less than the number of lives saved because of the reduced > murder rate," said Dasbach. > > "In other words, the real danger comes not from concealed > weapons, but from the lack of them," he said. > > Dasbach emphasized that although concealed-carry laws are a > major step in the right direction, they're not the perfect solution for > Libertarians. > > "Right-to-carry laws are only a partial victory because > Americans shouldn't have to seek government permission to exercise any > Constitutional right. Imagine what would happen if politicians dared to > require every journalist to pass a writing test to get a permit to > cover city hall, or tried to force ministers to demonstrate a basic > knowledge of religion before giving a sermon," he said. > > But requiring a permit is better than the alternative, he said: > Sentencing innocent people to death because they can't legally defend > themselves. > > "Denying terrified Americans the right to carry a gun is like > putting them at the front of the line on Death Row," he said. "At they > very least, politicians should have the decency to stop disarming > America's most vulnerable citizens: Crime victims." > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: 2.6.2 > > iQCVAwUBNI4ttdCSe1KnQG7RAQGH+wP9E9V7Qz84YFPtuo/ccCLGoYfU5C11G7dD > lr9oHNdd+JtkaBhoDB+NmDpO3lccNueq5Cl4ZxO8uJ67LjeMU4gvFhev8eMUr3Rs > Cj2zuWTEa94Xnl4gR3BBKnlykyIIc5WCpN9ftsmA3zB4bP4rpVNfJgcKPW2BQs+U > dMEaQprF4V8= > =GkYU > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > The Libertarian Party http://www.lp.org/ > 2600 Virginia Ave. NW, Suite 100 voice: 202-333-0008 > Washington DC 20037 fax: 202-333-0072 > __________________________________________________________________________ <somebody's.sig> --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/ Ask me about FC98 in Anguilla!: <http://www.fc98.ai/>

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Re: Another of Gary Burnore's Lies Exposed
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"Sam" <sam-001(a)dpinc.ml.org> wrote: > > Three examples: Speculation about Wotan and MailMasher, Speculation about > > DataBasix and one of many posts from the anon asshole complaining that ^^^^^^^^^^^^ > > > > Here are selected paragraps from each. The full messages follow: > > [snip] > > I'd rather look at full messages. Good idea. Notice Gary's usage of ad hominem argumention to avoid the issues on the faulty premise that if you hate the messenger then you can safely ignore the message. To Gary Burnore, his constant use of the perjorative "anonymous asshole" is apparently intended in the same manner as "heretic" was in the Middle Ages or "witch" was in 17th century New England. > This is something about warez and remailer, and Burchell discussing the > possible identity of whoever was behind whatever was discussed here. > Nothing is said regarding the issue here of forging databasix addresses > through the remailer, who was doing it, and why. > > I happen to recall that this was what this thread is supposed to be about. The original premise was that since the Mailmasher pseudonym server was allegedly allowing forgeries, it should be shut down. McClatchie's problem was that he mistook Mailmasher for a remailer and sought to prove that it allowed forgeries through the pasting of From: headers when, in fact, Mailmasher never had this capability. (Some of the remailers formerly did, but that was corrected long before the June incident with Gary Burnore, Belinda Bryan, and Jeff Burchell.) The "evidence" that was posted back then in an attempt to implicate Mailmasher in forgery consisted of usenet posts with truncated Path headers which stopped at the mail-to-news gateway from which they were posted. And none of the messages was more recent than 2/97. Mailmasher was a predecessor to Hotmail and the other web-based e-mail providers. The difference was that Mailmasher didn't require you to identify yourself to establish an account, but you could choose a pseudonym and use that instead. It never had any capabilities to specify a From: address. This the forged messages apparently not only had forged "From:" lines, but a forged "Message-ID:" as well, to make it look as if it came from Mailmasher. The forger, however, apparently chose the wrong site to implicate. If you'll reread Jeff's post (the one in the URL that I previously posted), you'll get a little insight into Gary's actions and apparent motives for his later attacks on Jeff's other server, the Huge Cajones Remailer. Let me quote a short excerpt: -> I still don't know what the hell is going on with DataBasix, Wells Fargo -> and Gary Burnore, but I suspect that someone used huge.cajones to say -> something extremely unflattering about Burnore (from what I can tell, -> he had it coming). Burnore then decided that he would make things -> difficult for me. First, he wanted the user who had posted something -> "inflammatory" about him revealed. When I told him that I couldn't -> do that, he carried on about mail logs and identifying the host that -> a message came from (the usual). I didn't explain to him that my -> machine keeps logs, but not anything involving a *(a)cajones.com -> address. He then requested the logs, which I denied (and told him -> to get his lawyer to send a request...) The issue was an "unflattering post", not any sort of forgery or other abuse. The so-called "spam bait" only "conveniently" appeared later when DataBasix was in need of more ammo to use to get the remailer shut down: -> Between the time he first contacted me, and the time I received the -> letter from Belinda Bryan, is when the baiting of databasix addresses -> began (slowly, with just a few posts). Now how would a third party, who was not privy to Gary and Belinda's private dealings with Jeff be able to exploit that timing by initiating the spam baiting at just the "right" time? It was almost as if the abuse appeared right on cue, just in time to bolster the case of DataBasix vs. Huge Cajones. And notice that from Jeff's chronology, the demand by Gary Burnore and Belinda Bryan for Jeff Burchell to turn over his logs to them came BEFORE this alleged "spam baiting" and was based on the unflattering CONTENT of a post, not on any alleged "forgery". None of this can be called speculation. It's a factual, historical account of DataBasix' dealings with Jeff Burchell. Plain and simple, Gary's demand for Jeff's logs was a blatant attempt at censorship through intimidation. IOW, the clear implication was "if you dare to criticize me, I'll hunt you down and you'll be sorry". > Earlier, Anonymous wrote: ``Contrary to your accusations, not all of > Jeff's post was "speculation".'' You took issue with that, in the context > of your disputed attempt to obtain the remailer's logs. > > Well, in this very sizeable post, speculations do, indeed, comprise only a > portion of it. The rest is a detailed narrative of the communications > between the players involved so no, it was not all just a speculation. > > Furthermore, you are disputing the fact that you wanted to obtain the > remailer's logs. I fail to see what facts you have posted which dispute > Jeff Burchell's version of the story. I cannot find the portion that > supposedly supports your claim that you did not seek to violate the > anonymity of the remailer. Burchell accomodated your demands, and put in > place measures that would prevent the alleged abuse from taking place. > Yet, you still demanded the logs. That's precisely my point. And now he refuses to disclose his motives for that demand or what he intended to do with the names and addresses contained in those logs. Every time he's asked the question of why he attempted to violate the privacy of hundreds or perhaps thousands of remailer users, it elicits another tantrum that goes, "Lies! Prove it! Why are you harassing me? What are your demands?" > > Note: I have several more posts like these, if you're interested. > > This one is a fine example of someone (the anonymous asshole, no doubt) > > whining about the "content based censorship" > > because he couldn't spambait us anymore. > > [snip] > > That's fine, but I do not see why this is relevant. It's not relevant. His usage of "anonymous asshole" is apparently generic for anyone who dares to challenge him and who posts anonymously, and is an obvious attempt to demonize all such individuals to divert attention from his own tactics. The whole "spam bait" issue is obviously a smoke screen, since the alleged spam-bait came AFTER the demand for Jeff's logs.

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Gary L. Burnore's Paranoid Hatred of Privacy and Anonymity
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

gburnore(a)netcom.com (Gary L. Burnore) wrote: > :Most control freaks like Gary Burnore and the rest of the DataBasix Gang are > :hypocritical about privacy. They want to invade that of others at will while > :protecting their own. Gary Burnore and Belinda Bryan > :were worried that their UNLISTED PHONE NUMBERS might be given out, but anyone > :who dares criticize their actions with an "unlisted" e-mail address is an > :"anon asshole". > > So you'll post your address and phone number right away, right? You go first, since you claim you "have nothing to hide". Why would anyone with "nothing to hide" choose to "hide behind the skirts of" an unlisted phone number and street address? (Recognize the rhetoric? It's yours, not mine.) > :I'm still wondering what wondrous plans Gary and Belinda had for all > :those e-mail addresses of the users of the Huge Cajones Remailer if Jeff > :Burchell had turned them over to DataBasux as they had demanded. (Not just the > :senders but the RECIPIENTS as well!) > > > More lies from the anonymous asshole. I posted the URL. What part of it was a "lie"? Are you now denying that you demanded that Jeff Burchell turn over the sendmail logs from his Huge Cajones Remailer to you and Belinda Bryan? > : Fortunately, Jeff was smarter than your > :average Burnore and didn't keep such things around to tempt DataBasix, > :Scientology, etc., so we'll never find out. > > Supposidly, they weren't available. Now you're claiming he had them but kept > them private. What else will you accuse Jeff of? Jeff didn't do anything > wrong yet you constantly berate him. What do you have to gain by demeaning > Jeff? Haha! Nice try at IKYABWAI. I guess that's the best you at DataBasix can do to try to divert attention from your activities and tactics? You and Belinda were the anti-privacy control freaks who supposed that Jeff had created and maintained logs for abusive organizations like DataBasix and the Church of Scientology to demand. Jeff knew better all along and didn't keep such info to tempt people like you. Had you done your homework rather than blindly attacking Jeff and his remailer, you'd have known that such data didn't exist and could have saved yourselves the embarrassment of being caught trying to demand it. You still haven't stated your reason for demanding these logs which, had they existed, would have identified everyone who either sent or received anonymous messages through the Huge Cajones Remailer. What wonderful surprises lay in store for remailer users after their identities had fallen into your hands? > Why are you trying to get remailers shut down. Jeff Burchell NAMED his attackers. Would you care to point out my name in his post? (Yours is named rather often.): http://calvo.teleco.ulpgc.es/listas/cypherpunks-unedited@toad.com/HTML-1997… Your paranoid conspiracy theories remind me of the kid who blamed the mess in his bedroom on an invisible herd of stampeding elephants. ("Well of course you didn't see them, dad. They're INVISIBLE.") In your case, you speculate that there's a single "anonymous asshole" who's responsible for everything that you CLAIM has occurred. The problem is, you haven't proven that 90% of the stuff you *CLAIM* occurred even happened, let alone was the work of your imaginary lone "spam-baiting/forging/child-molesting/cyber-stalking/libeling" (did I miss anything?) so-called "anon asshole". How about some proof of your wild charges, Gary? Only one of us even USES remailers (or at least admits to it). You, OTOH, have never had a civil word to say about ANY anonymous poster. If remailers were shut down, I'd lose my ability to post. What would you lose, Gary? Is being able to identify your critics and single them out for harassment really that important to you?

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Re: Whoever thinks the "word" is censored, post the 'word' fool
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

gburnore+NOspam(a)netcom.com (Gary L. Burnore) wrote: > :My only guess is that the posting person thinks that Replay censors more > :than one word, and that giveing the word away would tell Replay which > :filter to lift. If I had found something like that, I'd pass the info > :around privately to a bunch of friends first, and make sure that I was not > :the only one expereienceing the prob. > > Some have asked him to email it privately as well, seems he's not done that > either. I'm curious -- how would you know whether he's done so or not? I don't recall you making that invitation to him. Do you even accept incoming e-mail from remailers? > :Or, he could just be trolling. :) > > Doubt it. It really sounds like he believes the word is being censored. Maybe it's time for Alex to join this thread and either say "no, we don't filter on any words at the Replay remailer", or else "yes, here's a list of the words we consider to be objectionable, so please omit them from your posts through the Replay remailer". I'm half expecting that his posts aren't showing up either because he's screwed something up in the message to the remailer (like misspelling the word "Newsgroups" in the header, for example), because the posting gateway is flaky, or because some Net Nazi has taken it upon himself to indiscriminately forge cancels to posts he doesn't like. But some definitive word, one way or the other, would go a long way towards clarifying this situation. I see no rational reason for covertly blocking posts based on content. *IF* he didn't want something posted, then an announcement that the Replay remailer rejects posts containing certain words or phrases would make life simpler for all concerned. And to whoever created the subject line for this message, I'm tempted to either post the word "fool", or say that it's a lousy "Mr. T" impression. :)

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