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Re: Need a "warning" graphic of some kind for CDA
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 22:18 2/8/96, Bill Stewart wrote: > Before Bill Clinton signed the Exon Internet Censorship Bill, > Tipper Gore brought you Music Censorship. > Uncle Frank says "<quote here>" > >I suppose it's a bit beyond Fair Use? Sounds like fair use to me. Certainly Zappa wouldn't have minded. Then again, he isn't around anymore to defend you against whatever lawers now have the rights for his works. What a shame. -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred.

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Hello out there... Following up on China
by Fraering Philip G 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

(I tried subscribing a while back... I never got the flood of cypherpunk mail messages, so I guess it didn't work. Well, netscape is working tolerably well for reading the archives, and I wanted to comment on the following: Begin excerpt from alex(a)proust.suba.com: ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I've seen a couple of pointers to information about China's ambitious attempt to build their own censorable net, but not a lot of discussion. The Chineese net strikes me as a very signifiant (and very negative) development. In a worst case scenario, I could see them shopping their net around the world as an alternative to the Internet. China's size might make it possible for them to put together something that might be in the Internet's ballpark as an information resource, especially for technical and commercial applications. This would make it attractive to other countries -- Islamic, for example -- who want to use networking to stay competitive economically with the West, but who are unwilling to allow information to flow freely. <<End of excerpt. I'm suprised noone else has commented on this. For starters, there's a very real risk to anyone buying into InterHan that they're not going to get a "culturally neutral anti-open-Western-society controlled-by-the-dictators" version of the internet all set to construct the Chinese/Arab version of Linux. They're going to be getting a heavy-handed propaganda tool for the use of the current People's Republic's elite. I doubt there's going to be much appeal elsewhere. Phil

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Re: Reasons in support of crypto-anarchy WAS Re: Why am I (fwd)
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Whoops. I didn't mean to send that one to the list (re: ethics of assasination). Sorry. I am still trying to decide on whether other discussions of the non-Crypto aspects of Assasination Politics are appropriate; I would appreciate mail back from Perry in response to my email to him. Sorry again, -Allen

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Fwd: Web900 - The easiest way to charge users ...
by rah＠shipwright.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Date: Fri, 09 Feb 1996 12:29:14 -0800 From: "J. Kent Hastings" <zeus(a)pinsight.com> Organization: The Agorist Institute MIME-Version: 1.0 To: ecash(a)digicash.com CC: sek3(a)loop.com Subject: Fwd: Web900 - The easiest way to charge users ... Sender: owner-ecash(a)digicash.com Precedence: bulk I just received this in email: Web_Design_and_Promotion Mailing List wrote: > > to remove yourself from this list, please scroll to the bottom... > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Web900 - The easiest way to charge users to access your web site! > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Dear WebMaster, > > We'd like to use this bandwidth to introduce you to a new service > called Web900. Simply put, Web900 is the easiest way to charge your > users for products, services, or accessing areas on your web site. The > net is finally becoming a place where all of us can make money and > Web900 is the easiest, most secure way that we've seen to collect that > money from people surfing the net. > > We'd also like to take this opportunity to tell you a little bit about > our company. Logicom has been in the online industry since 1987. We > were one of the first developers for a BBS package called The Major BBS > (now called Worldgroup) by Galacticomm, Inc. Since then, we've grown > into a successful developer and Galacticomm's largest reseller. > > In 1994, we entered into the 900 access code business with a service > called "Quick Credit 900." Quick Credit 900 works strictly with The > Major BBS and Worldgroup systems by Galacticomm and it quickly grew > into one of the largest 900 billing services available for the online > industry. At the end of 1995, we bought out T.A.B.S. 900 in order to > expand our market beyond just Galacticomm systems. T.A.B.S. covers > other BBS packages such as Wildcat!, PCBoard, Searchlight, Mindwire and > TBBS. This buyout made us the largest 900 billing service for the > online industry. > > The next logical progression was to add Web900. Web900 enables Logicom > to completely blanket the entire online industry with an easy to use > 900 billing service. Our first few Web900 customers have been > resoundingly successful. Contrary to popular belief, people really are > spending money on the net! We have hundreds of clients using Quick > Credit 900 and T.A.B.S. already and hopefully you'll be one of our new > Web900 clients and help us grow Web900 into the success that our other > 900 services are enjoying, while at the same time increasing real > commerce on the web. > > Web900 is great for E-Zines, Adult Sites, Low cost product sales, > Nonprofit organizations collecting donations, Member based information > services, and virtually any web site that wants to charge for access. > If you or any of your customers currently charge for access (or even if > you're just thinking about it), we invite you to check out the > information on Web900. Our URL is http://www.logicom.com - we do offer > services other than Web900, so feel free to surf around while you're > visiting. Once you're at our site, to get to the Web900 information, > just click on the Web900 icon found on the clickable image map. > > Here's how it works: A web surfer gets to your site and wants to access > a restricted area. You will have a form (see our web site for a sample > form) that tells them to call a 900 number with their voice phone. They > will call the 900 number, enter your Web Site's System ID (referenced > on your form), and they will be given a redemption code. Then, they > simply enter the redemption code into the form and they're all done - > they have access. They will be billed on their phone bill and you (the > webmaster) will receive a check from us (Logicom) 45 days after the end > of the billing period for all codes obtained during that billing period. > > You'll find that Web900 is better than Cybercash, DigiCash, First > Virtual or any other electronic cash method because it's so easy to > use. Your customers don't have to fill out some sort of application ... > they don't have to deal with "wallets", "VirtualPINs", or "ecash" ... > they don't have to give ANYONE their credit card number or checking > account number ... and they don't have to figure out what the heck > "electronic cash" is. All this means that you don't have to sell them > on any new payment concepts - everyone pays their phone bill with real > money right now. They don't have to change their spending habits in any > way. > > It's also important to mention that Web900 is totally secure. Web > surfers don't have to give anyone their credit card number at any time. > In fact, they don't even need to have a credit card number. The > redemption code that they get from Web900 is only good on your system > and it's only good for one use. You, the Webmaster, will be downloading > a set of codes via a secure modem connection (not over the internet) > for redemption purposes. There's no need for encryption to be used - > everything can be done "in the clear" without any security concerns. > > Lastly, Web900 costs you absolutely nothing to setup, so you really > have nothing to lose. (There is a 20% fee taken out of each call to pay > the phone company and our administration fees.) In closing, we'd like > to ask you to please look at the information on Web900 located at > http://www.logicom.com and compare them to the other options (URLs are > located at the bottom of this letter). If you have any questions, > please feel free to e-mail us at web900(a)logicom.com or give us a call > at (800) 764-4266 (international callers please use (954) 726-3868). > Thank you for the time you've taken to read this letter, we hope you've > find this knowledge useful. > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > Web900 is a trademark of Logicom, Inc. - http://www.logicom.com > Worldgroup and The Major BBS are trademarks of Galacticomm, Inc. - > http://www.gcomm.com > Cybercash is a trademark of Cybercash, Inc. - http://www.cybercash.com > Digicash and ecash are trademarks of Digicash bv - > http://www.digicash.com > First Virtual and VirtualPIN are trademarks of First Virtual Holdings > Corproation - http://www.fv.com > > Note: Web900 is only available for *your* customers in the United > States. > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > Web900 - The easiest way to charge users to access your web site! > ------------------------------------------------------------------ > > You are on the PostMaster Direct Mailing List. You are on this list either > by request or as a result of using the PostMaster system at > http://www.netcreations.com/postmaster/ > > If you wish to stop receiving mailings from us, please forward this message > INTACT to deleteme(a)netcreations.com or for faster response, visit > http://www.netcreations.com/postdirect/ > > Thanks! > > ** Web_Design_and_Promotion zeus(a)pinsight.com 11076 -- J. Kent Hastings Assistant Director of The Agorist Institute zeus(a)pinsight.com, http://www.pinsight.com/~zeus/agorist/ --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "Reality is not optional." --Thomas Sowell The e$ Home Page: http://thumper.vmeng.com/pub/rah/

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http://www.aqui.ibm.com -- a "links" search engine
by Rich Salz 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I got email because I got linked to; this is the first I've heard of it. AltaVista's upped the stakes on WWW data collection. Apaprently aqui (the spanish word for here) is a "link" database -- it lets you make links and profile who would be interested in them. You can register (altho the intro page says "I wanna play anonymously" as a link) and get links of interest to you.

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Zimermann Legal Defense Fund
by Philip L. Dubois 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I've received reports that the signature on my recent Cypherpunks post did not check out. I have no idea why it didn't check out, but I've re-signed the message and now append it to this one. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- * MESSAGE FROM ZIMMERMANN DEFENSE TEAM FOR IMMEDIATE WIDE DISTRIBUTION WITHOUT MODIFICATION I write on behalf of Philip Zimmermann and his legal defense team for two reasons: to offer thanks and to make an announcement. First, we offer our thanks to all the generous souls who donated money and services to the Zimmermann Legal Defense Fund. Without you, we could not have mounted the defense that we did, and we would not have achieved the result that we did. Your contributions were made from a commitment to the causes of privacy and justice, and we are grateful. The announcement: as you may know, I am the only lawyer who was not working pro bono, i.e., without expectation of being paid. Three of our lawyers-- Ken Bass in D.C., Eben Moglen in New York, and Curt Karnow in San Francisco-- devoted hundreds of hours of time and substantial expenses for which they've not been paid. Tom Nolan in Palo Alto and Bob Corn-Revere in D.C. also spent a great deal of time on this case for which they were not paid. And, of course, Joe Burton in San Francisco toiled in obscurity on behalf of the other person who was also targeted by the federal investigation. I agreed up front not to bill for all my time, and judging from the rate of current contributions, it now appears that the Defense Fund will cover the fees and costs that I billed. I would like to see these other lawyers receive some compensation for their efforts. Accordingly, all donations to the Zimmermann Legal Defense Fund mailed, authorized, or generally "made" (as opposed to "received") after midnight local time on 14 February 1996 will be distributed among these other lawyers to defray their costs and, if possible, to compensate them for a little of their time. I make this announcement because people contributing to the Fund have a right to know that Mr. Zimmermann's actual defense costs are now covered and that additional donations will go to lawyers who agreed to work for free and who were absolutely essential to the defense. Again, my thanks. Philip L. Dubois Counsel for Philip Zimmermann Philip L. Dubois, P.C. 2305 Broadway Boulder, CO 80304-4106 voice: 303-444-3885 fax: 303-444-1051 email: dubois(a)dubois.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMRvtf7Z7C+AHeDONAQHBDQQAmRtNlm3CyEi47PPJCwH6IFRprm9dJwgy TqzEZj+WPCBDe599Dwx4x2MXx6OQRQ1QUwKDgafSs8BfDEHmxvXe8PMrdlQhIKCm ztfATlqbY3vDOhxNf8qNCbFAARerDI3jgQ3n07GbgnCz7PmKRiNbsZv/ddNOV1RO ygI4TODD5A8= =rDv6 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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AT&T buys a Bill
by The Anarchives 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"The name of the game is Monopoly" The Anarchives Volume 3 Issue 2 The Anarchives Published By The Anarchives The Anarchy Organization The Anarchives tao(a)lglobal.com Send your e-mail address to get on the list Spread The Word Pass This On... --/\-- AT&T buys / / \ \ a Bill ---|--/----\--|--- \/ \/ Welcome to the /\______/\ Information Age -~ -~ -~ -~ -~ -~ -~ -~ -~ -~ -~ -~ -~ -~ -~ -~ -~ -~ -~ -~ February 9 1996 With the passing of the U$ 1996 Telecommunications Bill, we begin the game of monopoly, and we will see the rise of a new monopoly, a conglomeration of existing information providers, the ministry of communications for the emerging corporate state, an embodiment if not explicitly AT&T. The telecommunications <or what will soon be termed 'communications> industry is inherently a monopoly. At least that's what the monopoly will argue when it finally wins the game. Traditionally communication monopolies have been held in check by regulation from public institutions, and geographic separation by containing monopolies within regional markets. The U$ Telecommunications Bill removes regulation, and introduces the double-speak 'competition', freeing monopolies to compete with each other across areas of local and long-distance markets. The double-speak comes in the fact that you need billions of dollars to compete in the first place. In quoting Robert E. Allen, Chairman and C.E.O. of AT&T, "the fast lane has opened up", we are witnessing the continued acceleration of technological change, and the simultaneous acceleration of AT&T's imperial penetration into all communication markets. The Telecommunications Bill carried with it provisions for the V-Chip, a piece of technology that promises to 'filter' television violence. This part of the bill is a RED HERRING for both supporters and opponents, drawing attention away from the crucial decision of telecom. deregulation. As if filtering television violence will even dent the rise of violence in our society. Violence that stems with an indentity crisis induced by the rapid deployment of information technology, and the submersion of the self within the technological mass. Of course we're told the solution to violence is just more technology, itself enhancing our virtual reality. 'here let's put some salt on that wound...' Two 'baby bells', NYNEX and Bell Atlantic, local phone monopolies covering the north-eastern U$, are about to merge, and form a runner-up to monolith AT&T. Concentration justified by competition. Everyone will grow fat, cause everyone is getting fatter. Those who don't eat, will be eaten. And with AT&T's recent announcement of a divestiture, they will have the flexibility and Ca$h necessary to traverse local and global markets, benefitting from the cross-subsidized marketing machine, and the value of a loyal and established 'brand'. To quote Robert E. Allen again: "We'll build our own network facilities to offer local services." As AT&T brags about 'building' the Global Information Infrastructure, they also announce a huge sale where they're selling all of their equipment manufacturing facilities. Why? Cause they were no longer the most profitable and successful telecomm equipment makers in the world. Northern Telecom now is. Why? Because NorTel adopted the digital switch a decade ahead of AT&T. So why is AT&T claiming they're going to be building the infohighway? Cause they're going to buy Northern Telecom. NorTel has recently scored contracts in China, Brazil, and the U$. They're the company building the networks of the world. With the money from the divestiture AT&T could easily buy NorTel. If they were really keen, they could increase there 2% stake in Bell Canada Enterprises, thus buying NorTel, Bell, and Bell Northern Labs, securing the world's best equipment corp., Canada's top R&D lab, and the Ontario and Quebec telecomm markets. Thus AT&T would be creating the foundation for North American corporate governance. Yet how does AT&T dominate the market, and how will they continue to dominate and eventually conquer the market? The easy and obvious answer is of course capital. AT&T has more, and controls more, and this certainly helps with ye olde corporate organization. However that is not the key focus of their success. AT&T will conquer markets as a result of the strategic use of artificial intelligence and neural networks. Artificial intelligence to navigate information networks, to manage marketing campaigns, to handle statistical and research data, to manage capital, and to manage the huge networks that are emerging as the global information infrastructure. This is the technology that AT&T markets as 'Intelligent Assistants', and this is the technology that will give AT&T the competitive advantage. In beginning his speach, Robert E. Allen said: "We've seen an all-out bi-partisan effort. The administration and both parties in Congress pullled together on a major issue that will touch the lives of everyone in this - and we've seen it happen at the beginning of a major election year." When i and i first read this paragraph I passed over it as just filler in the intro, but as i and i read on i and i realized the revealing nature of the passage. All levels of the U$ government, congress, senate, and the executive, both parties, all supported the Bill. Why? Cause they _all_ got bought off by the powerful telecommunications industry. AT&T sponsored the 1996 U$ elections, and in return can now enter the $US 80 Billion dollar local phone market, let alone the rest of the communications market they now spread unto. The name of the game is monopoly, and the medium is the machine, the thinking evolving corporate machine. love and mighty media analysis from the tao properganja center... -------------------------------------------------------------- To receive the Anarchives via email send a note to Majordomo(a)lglobal.com with the message in the body: subscribe anarchives Also check out: http://www.lglobal.com/TAO/

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Re: Yeah, Yeah But what are we gonna do!
by avatar＠mindspring.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 04:07 PM 2/9/96 UT, you wrote: >It may just be me but ... > >i) This in-fighting and bickering doesn't seem very productive > >ii) What are we gonna do about the CDA? > The bikers fought the helmet law and won (in places) > We should do the same. > > "It is better to have tried and failed than never have tried at all" > > Our strength is in our numbers and our abilities we should use them > to ensure our freedom. Science fiction has become our reality and their >paranoia. > > All we have to lose is our freedom. > Actually, I fought the Bill by writing and getting others to write to their congressmen. I also rebutted the passing of the Bill into law. Each time writing to 144 House members and 64 Senate members. Charles Donald Smith Jr. ||The government is my shepherd I need not work. It alloweth me to lie down on a good job. It leadeth me beside stilled factories. It destroyeth my initiative. It leadeth me in the path of a parasite for politics sake. YEA, though I walk through the valley of laziness and deficet spending I shall fear no evil, for the government is with me. It prepareth an economic utopia for me by appropriating the earnings of my grandchildren. It filleth my head with false security. My inefficiency runeth over. Surely, the government should care for me all the days of my life, and I will dwell in a fools paradise forever.................AMEN! || nuke'm if ya got'em||

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IRC chat
by John A. Perry 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I've opened #remailop on EFnet if anyone would like to drop by and give their views on the telcom bill (or anything else for that matter). See you there! John Perry - KG5RG - perry(a)vishnu.alias.net - PGP-encrypted e-mail welcome! WWW - http://www.alias.net PGP 2.62 key for perry(a)vishnu.alias.net is on the keyservers. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by mkpgp1.6.b2, a Pine/PGP interface. iQEVAwUBMRvpqKghiWHnUu4JAQFGTwf+J7h60z0eZ9r7BprjzGASBGLRpPdQDpSg tJ7kog5VWtToFEK4ljXa+eu9KerpkqdqqbG9G8RMIABapbn41091VfeuYeEpgAuc nkUhF7rNYSbvuUlqLc/F/KhnUm6Ki0fsNnj+J6hyWCcwN3alhkWpSox5wJKo3fmc xJemYufEUcby1MiAupKyHLDHk8+dT9OdrlitHzWBKIsfv/1eLj9u9CnJOJu+Ndq8 +SgqGxNt+z8EDduK2x4jfxxdSHtp8ApMw2WLZ9sctlzCX9iz48wnw3NZcT0pU3pD OSyb9catClwzOEEyPlRBVVZClqbP3CSTQIbSbKOTAJfPPBenA6cXrQ== =18tD -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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DUR_fum
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

2-10-96. EcoMist: "We know you're reading this." A survey of US privacy issues, with GAK, crypto and anonymity options. Americans think they have a right to privacy but they have lost control over who knows what about them. The chief culprits are lots of little brothers, all gossiping with each other over computer networks. But Big Brother is doing his bit: in the struggle against crime, terrorism, deadbeat parents, illegal immigrants and even traffic jams, the government keeps an ever-closer eye on its citizens. Technology itself may provide a partial answer. All-but-foolproof encryption technology is freely available over the Internet and will not go away no matter how much Uncle Sam wishes it would. "Virtual privacy." A related editorial which examines privacy protection regulation. "Magic armour." The Shortstop system deploys coherent jamming to fool a proximity fuse into thinking that its shell has arrived at detonation height when it is actually at an altitude of 100 metres or so. To do this, Shortstop uses a special "durfum" chip. DUR_fum (For the 3)

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