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Question
by pjn＠nworks.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

OK...A question for you all: If it is illegal (by our governments standards...) to export programs like PGP, etc., and you can send the whole source code in a message because that is also considered illegal, then could you send the code, broken up into many pieces, and send THAT in Email, would that be illegal? (Wow...All in one sentence... :) P.J. pjn(a)nworks.com ... I am Jesus of Borg. Blessed are they who are assimilated. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 [NR]

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Brute-forcing DES
by pjn＠nworks.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Any one up for a distributed brute force attack on single DES? My > back-of-the-envelope calculations and guesstimates put this on the > hairy edge of doability (the critical factor is how many machines can > be recruited - a non-trivial cash prize would help). >> Count me in. I've got a couple of net-connected Pentiums that are >> mostly idle. Although I dont have a pentium, I would be glad to put forth some computer power to help. >> Might be able to bring some money in by selling "I Helped Crack DES >> And All I Got Was This Lousy T-shirt" T-shirts. Id buy one! :) P.J. pjn(a)nworks.com ... I helped crack DES and all I got was this lousy Tagline. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 [NR]

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Adult CD
by owner-cypherpunks 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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DES-busting Javanese pagers and TVs
by Deranged Mutant 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 23 Jul 96 at 15:53, Timothy C. May wrote: [..] > A while back I proposed one approach: a brute force "screen saver" for > Windows machines. Other platforms, maybe, but the most cost-effective thing > to do is to go after the Windows market only. How about applets for java-aware pagers or tv-sets that will supposedly show up in the near future? When a crack is found, you can call a toll-free number, give them the code, and win a prize (ala Chinese-lottery). Would it be better to have them all try random keys rather than use assigned keyspaces? Can't keysearches be shorted by half (not that it's that significant, 2^55 rather than 2^56) using complement keys? First thing one should check are the weak and semi-weak keys (a good implementation will avoid them, but that doesn't mean one shouldn't check for them). [..] > Acquiring chunks of keyspace remains an issue, but I think we resolved a > while back that a probabalistic method works OK: people just pick chunks at > random, and the decreased efficiency as compared to perfect scheduling is > something like a factor of a couple (I have the numbers I calculated > somewhere, and I recall Hal Finney made the same estimate). > > Some means of communicating results--especially wins!--is still needed. > This is where Perry's idea of a Java program is a good one. Rob --- No-frills sig. Befriend my mail filter by sending a message with the subject "send help" Key-ID: 5D3F2E99 1996/04/22 wlkngowl(a)unix.asb.com (root@magneto) AB1F4831 1993/05/10 Deranged Mutant <wlkngowl(a)unix.asb.com> Send a message with the subject "send pgp-key" for a copy of my key.

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RE: [Noise] was Re: Giving 6 year old kids Uzi's
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 7:54 PM 7/23/96, Bill Olson (EDP) wrote: >I find nothing wrong with plinking. Hell, I'm from Montana--we used to >go shooting all the time. But when the shooting was done, the guns were >put away. What I find disturbing is that a child is taking it to school, >or just carrying it around. I say that any parent who thinks their child >is mature enough to carry a gun for non-recreational reasons is less >mature than the child. In fact, I'd go so far as to say they are a >danger to their own children. > >I guess I don't really have to worry too much, though. It is illegal for >children to possess such items publicly, and any parent who condones it >is simply breaking the law. I don't blame the child, I blame the moronic >parent who let's it happen. I'm _still_ missing the reference here? Just who *seriously* is proposing that 6-year-old children carry guns to school? (I emphasize "seriously* because there is a big difference between seriously proposing this and obviously making a joke, a la "I say we issue them guns after a basic safety class in Kindergarten." And I think someone's (maybe Brad Dolan's, if I remember correctly) point that his daughter carries a gun at school was followed immediately by mention that she is home-schooled, i.e., at his home.) I can imagine certain circumstances in which children could be armed--attacking terrorists on a ranch, Indians, etc.--but no public school in the United States, and probably not any private schools (K-12), allow loaded guns to be carried to schools. I'd love to see this "stupid gun thread" (to use Ernest Hua's term) die, but it keeps living on because some here are mischaracterizing the claims of others. Look, handing out guns to kids playing cops and robbers at age 6 or 8 or even 10 is probably a bad idea, but training kids at even a very young age to respect guns and to understand their dangers and limitations--and their advantages--is proably a good idea. In any case, the hoplophobia of some parents is not adequate reason to stop other parents from training their children under carefully controlled conditions. Getting a carry permit is not easy in any state in the U.S., so the fears that 6-year-olds are openly carrying guns to public schools is unfounded. (Young kids carrying guns to schools _secretly_ is of course a problem. Many of them carry crude guns out of fear that other kids are carrying guns. The proper solution for a kid committing a serious crime with a gun is to severely punish the child--I see no reason why a 14-year-old who murders someone should not get the brand of justice I favor, namely, a fair trial, no appeal except on substantive grounds, and a quick execution if determined to be guilty of first degree murder.) --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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RE: SHI_fty
by Bill Olson (EDP) 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Vinnie Moscaritolo writes: <snip> >>>Uh I think apple had that for a while, it's called cyberdog >>>http://cyberdog.apple.com screw this ole fud. >> >>Very true. But once again, it is not the technology that molds the >>world, but the exploitation thereof. Welcome to capitalism. >>> > >so shit floats...whats your point? Let me spell it out for you: M-O-N-E-Y. Shit floats. Apple doesn't... don't kill the messenger.

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LCO
by CJ Parker 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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RE: No more stupid gun thread ...
by Bill Olson (EDP) 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Ernest Hua writes: > >Ok. This thread has gone on long enough and covered just about every >point except the one which I originally made in my first response, >which is that I abhor the idea that kids should carry weapons (of any >sort) to school as standard equipment. In fact, I abhor the idea >that kids should carry weapons at school for any reason. > >Enough said. > >I do not care to discuss: > >1. Should kids have any weapons at any time? > >2. Should kids have guns (specifically guns)? > >3. Should kids know how to operate weapons of any sort? > >If any of you really really have to discuss this issue, let's spare >the rest of the list and send me E-Mail directly. > >Thanks! > >Ern Who died and left you in charge?

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Thanks for the mammaries...
by CJ Parker 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

First, I would like to express my appreciation for the fact that every single subscriber to the cypherpunks distributed mailing lists has chosen to participate in the opening salvo (on April 19, 1998, 9:02 a.m.) of the Digital Revolution. Unfortunately, I ratted you all out earlier today. I'm sorry, but the Men In Really Dirty White threatened to tell my mom, if I didn't confess. Although mom has been dead for quite some time, my knee-jerk programming kicked in (pardon the pun). The good news is that I exposed Bill Gates as the RingLeader of the highly illegal conspiracy of which you are all a part, so at least you should have some deep-pockets on your side when THEY (TM) kick in your door. I will be entering the Witless Projection Pogrom shortly, so I suppose that there is no harm in revealing that my original persona on the cypherpunks list, the one you have all known me by for quite some time, is Blanc Weber. I'm sorry I've been deceiving you all with my various Toto and TruthMonger personas, but during my volunteer work at the Handle Institute, I was infected with Tourette Syndrome from a dirty needle (while *sewing*, you cynical little cocksuckers!). I am also the one who has been sending the ASCII-art spams to the list. Dimitri was completely innocent, and you all should feel terrible about the way you treated him. I know that all of the list subscribers will carry on with the TRIN plan on April 19th because they are truly committed to the violent overthrow of all governments, and not just because I made it with all of you under the guise of my Lynne Harrison persona. (Personal note to Human Gus-Peter: No, I'm not wearing any panties...) I feel particularly bad about ratting out our Philosopher King, Tim C. May, since he was such a great help to me under his Dale Thorn and John Young personas. I also ratted out Adam Back for his part in the murder of Princess Diana, but it backfired when he was secretly Knighted hours later, by the Queen Mother (No! not John Gilmore, you fucking idiots!) Anyway, before signing off, I would like to inform you that my real opinion of all of you who responded to my Toto and TruthMonger posts is about the same as the opinion of Billy Crystal (when he was on 'Soap') in regard to all of the fucking idiots who finally connected to the ClueServer, slapped themselves on the forehead, and said, "What am I doing? I'm arguing with a *dummy*!" It's been real... Love & XXXX's, Blanc Weber "I'm not an asshole, but I play one in real life." ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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