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digi-script?
by Stanton McCandlish 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sorry I didn't find this sooner, but the info is still of interest even if the conf is over. Forwarded message:

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No Subject
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

frissell(a)panix.com writes: > "Dead White European Males didn't have World Domination handed them on a > silver platter. They had to *earn* it. When they started out, they were > blue-painted savages living in a cold, underpopulated territory far > removed from the centers of civilization in the Mediterranean and Arab > worlds. > > We could give up this power to various whining dregs of humanity without a > fight but that would be unfair to them. 'What we achieve too easily we > esteem too lightly' etc. I'm afraid you all are going to have to work for > a living. Or, of course, we could shoot you.

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Re: Having your own computer means never having....
by khijol!erc 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Actually, Apple has some really good concepts, using AOCE digital > signatures and products currently out for the corporate environment. The > automatic routing of digitally signed forms from one desk to another, with > the appropriate digital signatures on them, replacing normal forms. This > is the kind of thing I think you'll see making cryptographic inroad with > business. I think you're right. The ability to verify a signature that would be impossible to repudiate is a strong one. Tamperproof documents that preserve privacy are all powerful incentives for a company to adopt strong crypto and DSS. -- Ed Carp, N7EKG/VE3 ecarp(a)netcom.com, Ed.Carp(a)linux.org "What's the sense of trying hard to find your dreams without someone to share it with, tell me, what does it mean?" -- Whitney Houston, "Run To You"

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Totally Unbreakable VME
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

News report Nov 7, 97: AT&T, Hewlett Packard, Intel Corporation, Dell Computers, and many other leading computer corporations have been added to the challenge list by Meganet Corporation. The challenge started last week with Bill Gates, now some of his peers have an opportunity to validate or discredit the bold claim that Meganet's VME (Virtual Matrix Encryption) is totally unbreakable. Unbreakable encryption is the only answer to security in our electronic world. This is graphically illustrated by the recent report from the National Security Agency reporting the open market availability of a $10 chip that can test up to 200 million keys per second. The 56-bit key, government and banking standard, can be compromised in twelve (12) seconds with brute force using ASIC (Application-specific Integrated Circuits) chips. Meganet has the answer with its new VME (Virtual Matrix Encryption). The impenetrable VME also has extreme speed, much faster than any existing program available today. Major computer companies are already starting discussions to acquire the rights to market this incredible new data encryption system. More information about this exciting new technology can be found at: www.meganet.com ---------- Hmm, wonder if it has impenetrable GAK and CAK options.

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[patent] Secure electronic message transfer and voting scheme
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text X-Authentication-Warning: blacklodge.c2.net: majordom set sender to owner-cryptography(a)c2.org using -f From: tamaster(a)technologist.com Date: Fri, 7 Nov 1997 10:14:46 -0600 (CST) To: cryptography(a)c2.net Subject: [patent] Secure electronic message transfer and voting scheme X-Sender: Private Idaho 2.8b3 Sender: owner-cryptography(a)c2.net Secure anonymous message transfer and voting scheme (Assignee -- NEC Research Institute, Inc.) November 7, 1997 Assignee: NEC Research Institute, Inc. Patent Number: 5682430 Issue Date: 1997 10 28 Inventor(s): Kilian, Joseph John{#buSako, Kazue#} Abstract: A number-theoretic based algorithm provides for secure anonymous message transfer and electronic voting. A voter or sender may cast an encrypted vote or message that is processed through n centers in a manner which prevents fraud and authenticates the votes. Any interested party can verify that each vote has been properly counted. The invention can be realized by current-generation personal computers with access to an electronic bulletin board. Ex Claim Text: A method of secure anonymous message transfer from a plurality of senders by use of a plurality of mixing centers comprising the steps of: (a) choosing constants which are posted for senders S.sub.1, S.sub.2, . . . S.sub.l and mixing centers, C.sub.1, C.sub.2, . . . C.sub.n ; (b) each sender S.sub.k constructing an encrypted message which is posted; (c) a first mixing center C.sub.1 processing the posted messages from each sender S.sub.k which processed messages are then posted for use by the next center; (d) each mixing center C.sub.2 through C.sub.n-1 sequentially processing the processed messages from the previous center, which sequentially processed messages are then posted for use by the next center; (e) the last mixing center C.sub.n processing messages from the previous center C.sub.n-1 and posting the result; (f) each mixing center proving the validity of its processing, which proof is posted; and (g) channel checker verifying correctness of the execution from posted messages when necessary. from posted messages when necessary. --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/ Ask me about FC98 in Anguilla!: <http://www.fc98.ai/>

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Re: Return of the Living Zundel, from The Netly News
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Declan McCullagh wrote: > http://cgi.pathfinder.com/netly/editorial/0,1012,1561,00.html > Return of the Living Zundel > by Chris Stamper (cstamper(a)pathfinder.com) > Does Ernst Zundel have the right to deny the Holocaust and brag > about it on the Net? In the U.S. the answer is unequivocally yes. But > in Canada, where Zundel resides, the Human Rights Commission has been > holding hearings on whether the "Zundelsite" violates the country's > hate speech laws. If Zundel loses the case, he'll be asked to pay > damages and take any offending articles off the web site. Canadian Shock TV!!! Camilla Scott, competing for airtime with Jerry Springer's shows about two-headed lady midget wrestlers in a bed full of chickens with a serial killer who married his own daughter, recently had a show where people who wanted their friends/relatives to change their 'outrageous' behavior could confront them live, on TV. One of the guests was perturbed because his friend, a very successful businessman, always wore black. (Clothes of exceptional quality and design, but _always_ black.) Fortunately, the Canadian sheeple hooted and hollered derision at the fellow, thus protecting us from unsavory types like the Man in Black. Unfortunately, the fellow seemed much happier and satisfied with his life than those doing the hooting and hollering, so chances are, he will continue his diabolical wardrobe atrocities. Canadians know that the answer to racism is to put the racists in ovens and gas them, then bury them in mass graves in Germany. Glad I could clear that up. MapleLeafMonger

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Bay Area Cypherpunks meeting announcement
by Lucky Green 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Tomorrow's Bay Area Cypherpunks meeting will be held at the offices of C2Net Software in Oakland. Agenda: o Andrea Liles will present some cool new ideas about virtual CA's. o Lucky Green will demonstrate the Dumb Mouse, a universal chipcard reader, and associated analysis/manipulation software. If you are at all interested in smartcards, especially smartcards for crypto and authentication purposes, you don't want to miss this one. If there aren't too many attendees, we will host a workshop. Attendees are encouraged to bring any smartcards in their possession and discover what is /really/ happening on the card. The Cypherpunks Smartcard Developers Association will accept smartcard donations after the workshop. o Cypherpunks Tonga will announce the release of BSAFEeay, a BSAFE 3.0 API compatible crypto library based on SSLeay. o Cypherpunks Tonga will then combine BSAFEeay with the freeware SETref (which requires BSAFE for the underlying crypto) and demonstrate the first ever globally available *freeware* SET solution. Location: C2Net Software 1440 Broadway 7th Floor Oakland, CA Date/time: Saturday, 11/8, noon Directions: By BART: Exit the system at 12th Street Oakland. Walk north on Broadway one block. 1440 is on the right side of the street. By car: http://www.mapquest.com/ Choose "Trip Quest" from the menu. - -- Lucky Green <shamrock(a)cypherpunks.to> PGP v5 encrypted email preferred. "Tonga? Where the hell is Tonga? They have Cypherpunks there?" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 5.0i Charset: noconv iQA/AwUBNGPhYvXUPTw3WtkkEQKztACeIQwx4voyUVIP6u1HmosCWklX7osAnROD TTJn3K2jCIrKUQtOc5Z3oW1P =byR/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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S/MIME Mail Security WG approved - IETF
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Mime-Version: 1.0 Date: Sat, 8 Nov 1997 12:37:28 -0500 To: dcsb(a)ai.mit.edu From: Vin McLellan <vin(a)shore.net> Subject: S/MIME Mail Security WG approved - IETF Sender: bounce-dcsb(a)ai.mit.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: Vin McLellan <vin(a)shore.net> <Forwarded message; off the IETF-Announce mailing list> ------------------------- To: IETF-Announce: ; Subject: WG ACTION: S/MIME Mail Security (smime) Date: Fri, 07 Nov 1997 18:19:29 -0500 From: Steve Coya <scoya(a)cnri.reston.va.us> A new working group has been approved in the Security Area of the IETF. Contact the Area Director or Working Group Chair for more information. S/MIME Mail Security (smime) ---------------------------- Chair(s): Russ Housley <housley(a)spyrus.com> Security Area Director(s): Jeffrey Schiller <jis(a)mit.edu> Security Area Advisor: Jeffrey Schiller <jis(a)mit.edu> Mailing Lists: General Discussion:ietf-smime@imc.org To Subscribe: ietf-smime-request(a)imc.org Archive: http://www.imc.org/ietf-smime/ Description of Working Group: The S/MIME Working Group will define MIME encapsulation of digitally signed and encrypted objects whose format is based on PKCS #7. [1] X.509 Certificates and CRLs as profiled by the existing PKIX Working Group will be used to support authentication and key management. The Working Group will base its work on the S/MIME version 2 specification (available from RSA Data Security), but the Working Group will be free to change any part of that specification. In particular, the Working Group will prepare a new document that allows algorithm independence, based on PKCS #7 1.5. The message syntax specification, based on PKCS #7 version 1.5, will be expanded to allow additional key signature and key exchange algorithms. The message and certificate specifications will be revised to allow them to become standards. The optional security extensions document will specify protocols that allow for additional security features, such as signed message receipts. The S/MIME Working Group will attempt to coordinate its efforts with the OpenPGP Working Group in areas where the work of the two groups overlap, particularly in specification of cryptographic algorithms and MIME structure. [1] RSA Data Security publishes the PKCS Series of documents. RSA Data Security has permitted the IETF to publish them as Informational RFCs as well as to extend and enhance them. Goals and Milestones: Nov 97 Submit First draft of message syntax specification as an I-D. Nov 97 Submit First draft of S/MIME v3 message specification as an I-D. Nov 97 Submit First draft of S/MIME optional security extensions as an I-D. Nov 97 Submit First draft of S/MIME v3 certificate specification as an I-D Dec 97 WG Last Call on Message Syntax. Dec 97 WG Last Call on Certifiticate Specification. Dec 97 WG Last Call on Message specification. Jan 98 WG Last Call on Optional Security Extensions. Jan 98 Submit Message Syntax I-D to IESG for consideration as a /end forwarded message/ "Cryptography is like literacy in the Dark Ages. Infinitely potent, for good and ill... yet basically an intellectual construct, an idea, which by its nature will resist efforts to restrict it to bureaucrats and others who deem only themselves worthy of such Privilege." _ A thinking man's Creed for Crypto/ vbm. * Vin McLellan + The Privacy Guild + <vin(a)shore.net> * 53 Nichols St., Chelsea, MA 02150 USA <617> 884-5548 For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "dcsb-request(a)ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/ Ask me about FC98 in Anguilla!: <http://www.fc98.ai/>

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Senator Ashcroft on Encryption
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[Congressional Record: November 7, 1997 (Senate)] [Page S11959] ENCRYPTION Mr. ASHCROFT. Mr. President, I wanted to take a moment to associate myself with the comments of the majority leader from October 21, 1997. Senator Lott has correctly highlighted the FBI's constantly shifting arguments and the Bureau's seemingly relentless attempts to grab more power at the expense of the Constitution, particularly the fourth amendment's protection of privacy and the fifth amendment's guarantee of due process. The FBI legislative proposal goes far beyond the Commerce Committee's misguided encryption legislation in further disregarding our Constitution. Instead of working with those who understand that S.909 gives the FBI unprecedented and troubling authority to invade lives, the FBI has attempted to grab even broader authority. The Senate would be foolish to pass S.909. In no way can we even consider the ill-advised FBI approach. The reach of the FBI has now extended so far that the President has taken the other side of the issue and supported a free market approach, according to his public comments delivered abroad. I can only conclude that the FBI has introduced its proposal as a ploy to make S.909 look like a reasonable compromise. The only other explanation for the FBI's proposal is that the Bureau will not be satisfied with S.909, but instead will continue to work to erode our Constitutional protections. In fact, the new proposal only draws attention to the many problems of the Commerce Committee language. Neither proposal is acceptable. The issue of encryption must be revisited in a real and serious way next year, both at the committee level and in the Senate chamber, to examine the many Constitutional implications of the various proposals. I look forward to working with the Majority Leader and other Senators who have expressed interest in encryption legislation. I yield the floor. [End] See Senator Lott's comments on encryption: http://jya.com/lott-crypto.htm

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Re: [SURVEY try again] pgp5.x / pgp2.x users
by 3umoelle＠informatik.uni-hamburg.de 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > 20 % of the users who have posted digitally signed messages that are > > available in my news spool (international and local newsgroups and > > mailing lists) use PGP 5. The sample contains 545 unique e-mail > > addresses. YMMV. > > These are very interesting results. One question: what are the groups > about? Are they close in to PGP topics or far away? A number of them are crypto related, including the OpenPGP and a German PGP users' mailing list. Perhaps someone with access to a large newsserver could grep for PGP signatures on the rec.* hierarchy?

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