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Jim Bell (FINALLY!) Charged
by Alan 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Oregonian Friday July 11, 1997 Page B3 Man whose home was raided by IRS agents is charged A man whose Vancouver home was raided by IRS agents in April has been charged with two felonies in Tacoma. James D. Bell was charged Wednesday with interfearing with a federal officer and using false Social Security numbers. He has been held without bail in the Pierce County Jail since his May 18 arrest. Bell, 38, is scheduled to be arrained July 18 before U.S. Magistrate J. Kelly Arnold. However, sources close to the case said Thursday that plea negotiations are under way and are likely to be concluded before then. Bell's home was raided and searched April 1 by an IRS task force of 20 agents. In an affidavit for the search warrant, IRS Special Investigator Jeff Gordon said that Bell was "directly soliciting others to set up a system to murder government officials" and that he had devised a plan to overthrow the government. At a detention hearing in Tacoma, Arnold ordered Bell held without bail on both allegations. alano(a)teleport.com | "Those who are without history are doomed to retype it."

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Re: Microsoft and Netscape to Provide McCain with Options?
by geeman＠best.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Mostly I'd like to know what the proposals by these loft captains of industry ARE. At 06:15 PM 7/12/97 -0700, Tom Weinstein wrote: > >Alan wrote: >> >> On Fri, 11 Jul 1997, Tim May wrote: >> >>> At 5:26 PM -0700 7/11/97, Alan Olsen wrote: >> >>>> McCain said he met with Microsoft representatives recently to >>>> discuss a new technology being developed by the software giant that >>>> could be less intrusive and problematic than key recovery. The >>>> senator also said he plans to meet with Netscape officials next week >>>> to discuss yet another alternative. >>> >>> This is something we should watch _very_ closely! >> >> I agree. The article seemed to imply that both Microsoft and Netscape >> were falling all over each other trying to come up with gak-like >> alternatives to key recovery. I wonder what Tom Weinstien can tell us >> about that... (He has been a bit quiet lately... Too quiet.) > >When I'm quiet, it's probably because I'm busy. It's certainly not >because I was spirited off to Fort Meade by the black helicopters for >brain washing. > >Let's look at this another way. Given the opportunity to discuss your >views with a senator, whouldn't you take it? Even if there's very >little chance of changing his mind? > >We aren't going to suddenly do an about face and start saying that GAK >is good. Even if anyone here believed that, there's no way that we'd be >able to sell it to our overseas customers. > >-- >What is appropriate for the master is not appropriate| Tom Weinstein >for the novice. You must understand Tao before | tomw(a)netscape.com >transcending structure. -- The Tao of Programming | > > >

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17 Dec '03

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by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Potential terrorists
by Mixmaster 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"Phillip M. Hallam-Baker" <hallam(a)ai.mit.edu> wrote: > The Blair administration has a massive legislative program ahead of it > undoing 18 years of Tory mismanagement and corruption. Hmm, let's see: increased taxes, increased interest rates, banning all handguns, the current hunting ban boondoggle, British Airways on strike... somehow I think that 'New Labour' are doing pretty well at instigating their own program of mismanagement. Of course, a government which made banning handguns one of it's first priorities and banning hunting one of the second is hardly likely to be a government which will look gladly on the unrestricted use of cryptography. I won't mention the 'Prevention of Terrorism' act.

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Re: FYI: NSA Requests Source Code From Elvis+
by Stone Monkey 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In article <9707071618.AA63188(a)public.uni-hamburg.de> Ulf Mueller writes: >> The National Security Agency has asked Sun Microsystems Inc. and Elvis+, >> the Russian networking company in which Sun has a 10 percent stake, to >> turn over the source code of its SunScreen SKIP E+. > >Why should the US government get access to the source code of foreign >product being imported to the US? To me the announcement implied that the NSA wanted to compare Sun's and Elvis+'s implementations, to verify that they are actually different. To check that Sun didn't simply smuggle the code out and launder it through Elvis+. They're not looking at imports (why would Elvis+'s code be imported? It's already available domestically from Sun), they're looking at Sun's well-publicised end-run around the crypto chilling effect, to see if Sun perhaps cut any corners. But it's more fun to rant about the paranoid thrashings of a government bogeyman than it is to attempt to understand the actions of the NSA, which is not staffed by stupid people.

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Re: Thank you, John Gilmore, for protecting freedom of spee
by paul＠fatmans.demon.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Ironic how the list championed flooding Germany(?) with material in response to their > suppression of certain "objectionable" material, then gets into this sticky wicket. Absolutely, As much as I might hate Vulis`s stuff (and believe me I do). It is no justification for removing him from the list. We are supposed to be a platform for the discussion of cryptography but as the list has become more and more a libertarian platform for ideas and discussion we cannot really justify censorship in this way. I very much wish I could say that I agreed with John but I cannot do so with a clear conscience. Datacomms Technologies web authoring and data security Paul Bradley, Paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Paul(a)crypto.uk.eu.org, Paul(a)cryptography.uk.eu.org Http://www.cryptography.home.ml.org/ Email for PGP public key, ID: 5BBFAEB1 "Don`t forget to mount a scratch monkey"

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by Betty G. O'Hearn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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17 Dec '03

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Re: Telling quote from Bernstein hearing
by Greg Broiles 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Rich Burroughs wrote: > I did not find his arguments very persuasive -- he seemed stuck on the idea > that crypto is not speech, when that had already been ruled against by > Judge Patel. As I understand the government's argument, this is what they're trying to say: Even though code can be speech, if it is executable code it is speech and something else at the same time. The government is entitled to regulate or prohibit the export of the "something else" without regard to the speech component, as long as they are content-neutral with respect to the speech component. For example, a cruise missile is subject to export control. Painting words on the side of the missile won't change that. Executable crypto code is subject to export control, and the fact that it has an expressive component doesn't change that. The comments about "We don't know or care what Mr. Bernstein is doing and we're not trying to control his academic discourse" were intended to emphasize that the government is content-neutral with respect to the expressive content of his crypto code. Because the regulations are content-neutral with respect to the expressive content, they are subject to an "intermediate scrutiny" standard (not the "strict scrutiny" standard which would be applied if the restrictions were content-based). The government believes that the AECA and the ITARs can pass the "intermediate scrutiny" test. In a nutshell, the government thinks that the expressive content of code is the algorithm(s) expressed in it. For example, expressive content of PGP 2.x is RSA and IDEA and MD5 and some key management stuff. And they say that their regulations won't be interpreted to cover versions of that expressive content which don't take the form of machine-readable code. While I think that the entire export control scheme, as it is applied to crypto today, is an exercise in dishonesty and futility*, I think that the questions this case presents are difficult questions. I don't think it's really comprehensible to separate the "expressive content" of source code from its "functional content", because one dictates the other. Either the government is able to control the functional content (in which case it controls the expressive content), and the First Amendment is seriously curtailed; or the government is unable to control the functional content, and its ability to control the production and import/export of items of politico/military significance is seriously curtailed. Historically, courts have been deferential to the executive branch's ability to control military and political/diplomatic matters. Either way, someone's pissed off, and someone thinks the court is sending the country to hell in a handbasket. The "crypto is central to national security" argument shouldn't be dismissed summarily - at least not if you think Tim's predictions about cryptoanarchy are accurate. Crypto _is_ important. Crypto _is_ significant in the political and military venues. (* It's dishonest and futile because it is insufficient to reach its stated goals - if the purpose is to prevent the spread of strong crypto worldwide, the government must control the expression of strong crypto algorithms and techniques in all media and all forms. Such regulation would be incompatible with the First Amendment and freedom generally. The present regulations are so poorly matched to the apparent goal that I suspect they have another purpose; and I suspect that purpose is to control the domestic development of strong crypto. And attempting to do so while claiming to do something else is dishonest. (That result is also incompatible with the First Amendment and freedom generally.) And that's what I think of crypto regulations, whether or not I appear to be agreeing with the government.) -- Greg Broiles | "We pretend to be their friends, gbroiles(a)netbox.com | but they fuck with our heads." http://www.io.com/~gbroiles | |

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