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by RealAudio & RealVideo News 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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breaking RSA in hardware (was Re: Comparing Cryptographic Key Sizes II)
by Adam Back 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Peter Trei <trei(a)process.com> writes: > > [DES breaking] > > [useful stats] > > So, to summarize: > > Using GNFS, on clients with 128M of memory, you could factor a 512 > bit modulus in 28,000 MIPS years. With 500,000 MIPS years, you could > factor a 600 bit modulus. > > Using QS, in 500,000 MIPS years you could factor a 512 bit modulus on > machines with modest memory requirements. Remarkably close to my original figure :-) (same as DES I said, you estimate DES to be 475,000 MIPS). So, even though GNFS is faster, if we don't have the hardware, it'll be better to use QS because using GNFS whilst continually paging will be even worse. > The effects of memory speed and bandwidth would slow things down > somewhat. Yup. With DES software is not at all an efficient way to break DES, compared to a Wiener machine. Unfortunately the press releases have had very little to say about the true cost of breaking DES with hardware. Perhaps it would be interesting to look at the economics of a well funded attacker breaking a 512 bit RSA key. If we asume that they would do it in software, and had to buy the machines, would you be better to buy fewer workstations with 128Mb or lots with 16Mb. Factor of 17 speed up using GNFS acording to your estimates of DES, and Lenstra's for GNFS RSA. So perhaps we're looking at motherboard $100, cpu $100, PSU+case $100 + 16Mb RAM $100 = $400. The same, but with 128Mb $1100. So that's a 1100 / 400 = 2.75 ratio. Clearly buying the larger memory PCs is the way to go. Overall GNFS is 6x cheaper it would appear. However, really the interesting question is how much would it cost to break RSA in hardware. How expensive would it be to build a custom hardware machine to break RSA. What building blocks would be needed. How much memory. What would be the most efficient approach. Would it be cost effective to use NTTs RSA chip? What would be the most efficient way to distribute the memory. Adam -- Have *you* exported RSA today? --> http://www.dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/rsa/ print pack"C*",split/\D+/,`echo "16iII*o\U@{$/=$z;[(pop,pop,unpack"H*",<> )]}\EsMsKsN0[lN*1lK[d2%Sa2/d0<X+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0<J]dsJxp"|dc`

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17 Dec '03

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The Right 2 Bare Arms
by nobody＠huge.cajones.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The unknowed soldier writes: > What a fascinating idea! The govt. has declared code to be munitions (arms); > the Second Amendment guarantees the right to "keep and bear arms." > Wish I'd thought of that. For some strange reason your message made me think about Tim May's rant about laws regulating the size and method of transporting or carrying knives. Naturally, since 6" was the "standard" used in many places for years to define the line between legal and illegal intent for use of said "pointed instrument", I got to thinking about the possibility of the laws being transposed to apply to another common "pointed instrument" which is sometimes used as a tool and at other times is used as a weapon. My first thought was to wonder if my 18 1/2" would automatically make me a three-time loser and subject to lifetime imprisonment. My second thought was whether there would be corresponding laws requiring the weapon to be "sheathed" in one locale and "in plain sight" in another locale. Wish I hadn't thought of that. A. Felon

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EAR cookbook anyone?
by Rich Graves 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

We would like to distribute strong encryption (PGP, Netscape, MSIE, Kerberos, SSH, lynx-ssl, etc.) to people affiliated with our institution without prejudice to their current location, as the Fortune 100 can do with PGP. Today I got management to agree that it would be worth my time to ensure that we do so legally and publicly (though we had already decided to distribute said software to new and continuing affiliates worldwide regardless). There's a lot of examples of ITAR CJR's online, but I don't see any examples of EAR whatchamacallits. Are we really going to need some lawyer for this, or can't I just send Commerce a form letter, say, tomorrow afternoon? Form letters my department can fill in and sign, but paying a lawyer would require a level of bureaucracy that I'd rather not deal with. The deadline in any case would be August 25th. -rich i'm back... if i haven't responded to your mail sent the last week and a half, it's probably because it just wasn't interesting. nothing personal.

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Re: Bomb Making Info to be Illegal
by Secret Squirrel 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Paul Bradley <paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk> wrote: >I think I >may, if I have some time in the next few days, put together a quick >website telling people the best fish to use etc. and inciting them to use >this as a method of assasinating MPs... Surely oranges would be a better choice for MPs? Hell, dress them up in stockings and suspenders first and they'd probably write it off as accidental death. OrangeMonger

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Re: Attention Shoppers: Internet Is Open (NYT, 12Aug94)
by L. Todd Masco 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

hart(a)chaos.bsu.edu (Jim Hart): >All in all a good article. I have a couple problems with it, >which may be due more to the people interviewed than to the >reporter: The biggest problem I have (obviously) with it is that the premise is wrong: NetMarket was *not* the first company to take a credit- card order via automatic encryption software. Over a month before the sale they site, Bibliobytes made its first sale with an automatic encryption program: the only real difference is that NetMarket used hhtp, where bibliobytes used e-mail -- so their interface is much prettier (and that we used RIPEM where they used PGP). Well before us, people were taking orders via PGP -- the thing about our client was that the user didn't have to know anything about encryption programs. We've contacted the author of the article and he claims that he'll be retracting the claim... we'll see. The Voice already snickered at the NYT's fuck-up in this week's edition. My other company (and the one I have the larger interest in), HKS, is about to announce a point of sale system (called ICE, for Internet Creditcard Encryptor -- don't blame me, I didn't name it) that'll be a drop-in solution for companies, end to end from customer to delivery for soft products and delivery lists for hard products. The problem here, and the one that's of interest to Cypherpunks, is how to change this system, using credit cards and all the loss of privacy they entail, into one using anonymous digital cash. HKS certainly has a commitment (though in word only at this point, since it's vaporware) to support digital cash, but as I've noted before it a very difficult bootstrap problem. There has to be some reason people would use digital cash over credit cards and frankly, I don't see it happening in the near future except by some large power (like banks) decided to support it. The american people keep claiming in polls that they want better privacy protection, but the fact is that most aren't willing to do anything about it: it's just a preference, not a solid imperative. Until something Really Bad happens to many people as a result of privacy loss, I really don't think much will be done that requires real work and inconvenience from people, like moving to something other than credit cards for long-distance transactions... and that's a tragedy. -- L. Todd Masco | "Large prime numbers imply arrest." - Meaningless cactus(a)bb.com | grammatically correct sentence. Right.

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No Subject
by bureau42 Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

(Special note: this new remailer is destination-blocked for the Cypherpunks list, in all known incarnations. It's noisy enough without this contribution :) Bureau 42 Enterprises is proud to announce a new remailer! remailer(a)bureau42.ml.org supports both Type-I and Mixmaster messages. $remailer{"bureau42"} = "<remailer(a)bureau42.ml.org>" cpunk pgp hash latent cut mix Be aware: The remailer is running on the slow end of a UUCP link. There _will_ be latency. Lots of it. Here's the keys. People in charge, please add these to the relevant lists. bureau42 remailer(a)bureau42.ml.org 684d5ea06f1d2a46c45e55eb9758cf61 2.0.3 -----Begin Mix Key----- 684d5ea06f1d2a46c45e55eb9758cf61 258 AAS8YXDO/ZtBIdeFfCbQBdXYJvzYXO1WkUgExMa+ brxMUiI6UC89ZF+zjSYbPsOHaSSD/ljIBde46Dg2 L076Klarxl28BP3VtIdHDfs64X+CfxulJjORWIhi FTG3NWa7gIs2OADgcUSzy4/UGN0FqhsAT0skFWUw DQ+SSfJbLrhz6QAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAQAB -----End Mix Key----- Here is the PGP Public Key for bureau42 Anonymous Remailer -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzNw0EkAAAEEAOdhlFnWook3MO3QoB2isVgJXMfauV2A5CKgfd09P7VGccP7 Z27HuI2LSMd23fcGe0uVLxYFMvOUCRgLoXYeqXLUEX6eHPIFtd7B3FkfR03Aj+GT PfmTupqp4Wc5cODDuXOe6Y0x30QffuX3BjNfSvEa2iniLer5ac5Daand9AJhAAUR tDZidXJlYXU0MiBBbm9ueW1vdXMgUmVtYWlsZXIgPHJlbWFpbGVyQGJ1cmVhdTQy Lm1sLm9yZz6JAJUDBRAzcNC2zkNpqd30AmEBAQw4A/9OFw6t3x2BhDSNEBLD78rl SfZsReDpF1yt0t+MQ0yNyaTciByDPtw+9tL9L+X9Gm0FAri6t+uelqaK4XR71POD 8VyCylWHkWHDfY8N53pJt8VV8LL4NcR3Go8tBVbo37BSuRDPbFyBAvy4EH3UbRI4 eYIKOcBsHlgSP2R7aFhCuw== =sN96 -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

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"Tin Drum" Obscene in Oklahoma
by Mike Duvos 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

It used to be that mainstream motion pictures were territory child porn hysterics didn't go near, for fear of losing high profile cases and creating case law detrimental to their cause. Yet, as the creeping definition of child porn has moved to include fully clothed children, and any simulated depiction of the sexuality of minors, it was inevitable that the child porn hysterics would finally feel powerful enough turn their crusade towards award winning motion pictures containing ideas that Bible thumpers and their ilk would rather not have available to the masses. It is therefore no huge surprise that an Ohlahoma Judge has ruled that the Oscar-winning film "Tin Drum" is obscene, and contains scenes that constitute child pornography. Police have seized videos of the movie from libraries and video stores, and have gone to the homes of people who rented the film to seize the tapes. The Oklahoma ACLU director has called the action "Gestapo-type tactics" and vows to fight the ruling in court. Should be Mapplethorpe all over again. -- Mike Duvos $ PGP 2.6 Public Key available $ enoch(a)zipcon.com $ via Finger $

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Re: Netly interviews Donna Rice-Hughes and Sen. Coats staffer
by William H. Geiger III 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- In <v03007812afda0e1988c9(a)[168.161.105.191]>, on 06/27/97 at 08:41 PM, Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> said: >[The day before the CDA decision came down, I interviewed David Crane >from Sen. "CDA II Real Soon Now" Coats' office and Noah interviewed Donna >Rice-Hughes. Recall Coats was the chief GOP sponsor of the original CDA. >Here are excerpts. --Declan] Hi Declan, What Noah forgot to ask: "Ms. Rice, considering your previous occupation as a two-bit whore during the '88 election why should the American public take anything you do seriously?" - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------- William H. Geiger III http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii Geiger Consulting Cooking With Warp 4.0 Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. OS/2 PGP 2.6.3a at: http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii/pgpmr2.html - --------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: cp850 Comment: Registered_User_E-Secure_v1.1b1_ES000000 iQCVAwUBM7Rn1Y9Co1n+aLhhAQFONQQAmXFnvVB91lciCIYIGQv9y8fq+j5zwbz3 r+BE0Q0VpXc+APVpUxqbO5OEb0NRO6+epRgkXn09hInpXFiqnPegprh2otuEPsKP 4IeMOBullzkI1CvXWNBNDZ5Xd9Q9IGWX1Qax7Xi3Dou6UlFQ+3LI3/F2Vn/fqWZv seogXEJLtYY= =U+/2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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