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Anonymous remailers mentioned in CDA decision
by Raph Levien 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Here's a paragraph from the findings in this morning's CDA decision. I'm happy to see that we're considered an integral part of the Internet, rather than as a fringe cyber-terrorism threat. Overall, I found the decision to be balanced, well written, and extremely thoughtful. Raph [ excerpted from http://www.vtw.org/speech/decision.html ] [ from the undisputed findings of fact ] Obstacles to Age Verification on the Internet 90. There is no effective way to determine the identity or the age of a user who is accessing material through e-mail, mail exploders, newsgroups or chat rooms. An e-mail address provides no authoritative information about the addressee, who may use an e-mail "alias" or an anonymous remailer. There is also no universal or reliable listing of e- mail addresses and corresponding names or telephone numbers, and any such listing would be or rapidly become incomplete. For these reasons, there is no reliable way in many instances for a sender to know if the e-mail recipient is an adult or a minor. The difficulty of e-mail age verification is compounded for mail exploders such as listservs, which automatically send information to all e-mail addresses on a sender's list. Government expert Dr. Olsen agreed that no current technology could give a speaker assurance that only adults were listed in a particular mail exploder's mailing list. [ ... ] Anonymity 121. Anonymity is important to Internet users who seek to access sensitive information, such as users of the Critical Path AIDS Project's Web site, the users, particularly gay youth, of Queer Resources Directory, and users of Stop Prisoner Rape (SPR). Many members of SPR's mailing list have asked to remain anonymous due to the stigma of prisoner rape. [ from views submitted by the parties in response to Order dated March 13, 1996 ] 22. Arguably, a valid CDA would create an incentive for overseas pornographers not to label their speech. If we upheld the CDA, foreign pornographers could reap the benefit of unfettered access to American audiences. A valid CDA might also encourage American pornographers to relocate in foreign countries or at least use anonymous remailers from foreign servers.

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Re: Slander of Catholic Church
by Ryan Russell/SYBASE 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Thanks, Attila. I think Paul Penrod and the Archangel Moroni missed my main >point. I was not singling out Mormonism for special criticism, just using >it as an example of a "cult" or "religion" which is in many ways even more >"outre" to many of us than Scientology is. Belief that a body rotting in >the ground can be baptized into one's church is at least as odd as >believing that Mankind is descended from the survivors of spaceships >fleeing an evil overlord. A point of clarification: It's not the bodies that are baptized, but the spirits, by proxy. You don't think we dig 'em up do you? The point being that even if you've never heard of Christ (a billion people in China for example) you've still got a shot. Most christian religions don't allow for that. I mention this in case any of the folks who are being subjected to this discussion on this list were wondering what the heck you were talking about. We are a missionary church, after all. As far as the COS goes...Well, a lot of info that the Mormon church would prefer to keep secret has been published, but I don't think the First Presidency has been running around suing everyone. Ryan

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Quickremail update
by Mark M. 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I have now released Quickremail v1.0. This fixes a lot of the bugs present in the beta version. Some of the bugs were serious, so I would suggest getting the newer version. It is available at http://www.voicenet.com/~markm/quickremail.1.0.tar.gz . - -- Mark =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= markm(a)voicenet.com | finger -l for PGP key 0xe3bf2169 http://www.voicenet.com/~markm/ | d61734f2800486ae6f79bfeb70f95348 "In Christianity neither morality nor religion come into contact with reality at any point." -- Friedrich Nietzsche -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3 Charset: noconv iQCVAwUBMb87I7Zc+sv5siulAQE8dQP/Rrzvd4T/4vF5/KUmPA1mrhxxl+7Mosud OqykU7Bcg5lMezYuW51eaHlQVqgeMhLaFopXth4su3S9DHB+wv1rYwo4rh8G4Gt9 h0EQ4ekhVi4tzzM1VChdkIE/ZrddvcqSoIvZqGOjv8UrvWxXoKoNQ65IKB+UHvvC MQAZGT5KvUM= =Gycx -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Two Birds With One Stone / Re: Keepers of the keys
by TruthMonger 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Joe Shea wrote: > And if Tim May does kill me, I hope someone has his key, or better > yet, can go make a showing to a judge and get it from him. It is much more likely that a federal agent, using Tim's escrowed key to read his opinion of you, would whack you out and set Tim up for the crime, thereby eliminating two troublesome birds with one stone. > There are > plenty of them, though, and they are moving vast sums of stolen money and > nuclear weapon parts and stolen information all over the globe. I see no > reason why we should be defenseless against them. We are defenseless against them because they are working for the same fucking governments that you want to give your crypto keys to. Key escrow is meant for fucking the little guy in the ass, not the major players. > On the other hand, > if someone's going to blow up San Francisco this week, it sure would help > to have a key to any encrypted communications he was generating. Yeah, sure. I use an escrowed key to communicate about all of my criminal activities, and I send the FBI a cc: on all of them. It sure would help if LEA's all had access to the American Reporter's files so that they could censor any writing that might encite someone to blow up San Franciso. Why don't you send them all of your writing for approval, Joe? If all the people in favor of key escrow would allow the government total access to all of their communications, then the drop in crime would more than make up for that commited by those who use encryption. If you can't afford to buy a clue, Joe, then try renting. TruthMonger

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Re: 119_816
by Cerridwyn Llewyellyn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:29 AM 7/17/96 GMT, you wrote: > 6-17-96. NYP: > > "11 Officers Are Accused of Failure to pay Taxes. Claims of > Sovereignty and 98 Dependents." > > At least 11 New York City police officers have been > accused of failing to pay any Federal taxes for several > years by declaring they each had 98 dependents and by > insisting that the Government had no right to tax them. > The officers relied on a package of instructions that > described how to avoid paying taxes by declaring that > they were sovereign citizens who did not have to pay > taxes. Anyone know which "package of instructions" they were using, and where they can be obtained online? //cerridwyn//

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Re: Opiated file systems
by Deranged Mutant 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 18 Jul 96 at 22:48, Adam Back wrote: [..] > The whole system should be designed to withstand scrutiny as to > whether or not there is a duress file system on any given disk, on the > assumption that the opponent as full access to the source. > > ie. the attacker can not tell without the hidden file system key (if > one exists) whether the unused space on your drive is really just > that: unused space filled with garbage, or whether it is in fact > another encrytped filesystem. There has to be a way to tell the system that the sectors are used when not the drive isn't mounted and the filesystem isn't active. > They might be suspicious, but I don't think they would be able to > claim you were in comptempt of court, if you provide the 1st key and > claim there is no other key: the software has support for either 1 > or 2 filesystems. Having a copy of the driver is enough to arouse suspicion. If they don't find anything useful in that one partition, they'll assume the second is in use and that you're not giving up the key. You may very well get accused of maintaining a second system even if you are not and do not have anything incriminating in the one encrypted fs. --- No-frills sig. Befriend my mail filter by sending a message with the subject "send help" Key-ID: 5D3F2E99 1996/04/22 wlkngowl(a)unix.asb.com (root@magneto) AB1F4831 1993/05/10 Deranged Mutant <wlkngowl(a)unix.asb.com> Send a message with the subject "send pgp-key" for a copy of my key.

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Re: "address verification databases"? (was: Netscape download...)
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 17:53 7/18/96, Peter D. Junger wrote: >With much help from Tom Weinstein and a bit of luck, I have succeeded >in downloading the Linux version. But the time I tried before it >finally worked, I typed in the New York City area code (212) rather >than the Cleveland area code (216) and since I had given them a >Cleveland address and ZIP code, they (the server, that is) said that I >had made an error. So that must be one thing that they check. Despite the ITAR, Netscape's US version is already available from the usual free-world FTP sites. Next time, you might want to get your copy there. BTW, can somebody please tell me why PGP generated *.asc files show up in Netscape as "VRML Worlds"? TIA, -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred. Defeat the Demopublican Unity Party. Vote no on Clinton/Dole in November. Vote Harry Browne for President.

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Re: Singapore officials censor U.S. newgroup posting
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 01:00 PM 7/19/96 -0500, Declan McCullagh wrote: >This move by Singapore to censor a newsgroup posting is a good example of >the overbreadth of government censorship. It's a bait-and-switch maneuver: >say you're going after porn but censor "offensive" speech. >The regulations ban contents that "tend to bring the Government into hatred >or contempt," Isn't it too bad governments don't ban THEIR OWN actions which "tend to bring the Government into hatred or contempt"? After all, I think behind every example of "hatred or contempt" for government, you'll find an act by government which caused it. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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[noise] Re: Responding to Pre-dawn Unannounced Ninja Raids
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 03:49 PM 7/19/96 -0500, you wrote: >ObCrypto: how about putting an [anti-tank] mine inside your computer. >When ninjas try to get to your files, the computer and [depending on >your bloodthirstiness and load of explosives] ninjas will get >destructed. Has anyone ever done that? Sounds like an interesting way to secure a remailer. (Especially against Scientology raids. "This remailer will self-destruct in five seconds." *BOOM*) There was a case locally where some idiot booby-trapped his cache of weapons and explosives. Seemed a wee bit self-defeating. (Blew all of his explosives all over the place when it finally went off. No one was hurt, but it spread grenades and other choice bits all over the place.) The local kids got alot of souveneers out of that one... <PSA>For more information on these and other ultimate chaotic acts, check out _Agent of Chaos_ by Norman Spinrad. This and other books of an anarchist nature are available from your local library.</PSA> --- |"Computers are Voodoo -- You just have to know where to stick the pins."| |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmermann unites all| Disclaimer: | | mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man | |`finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ | alano(a)teleport.com |

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Crim Law Message Board
by AFDA2＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Criminal defense attorneys are welcome to use the new message board located at the web site maintained by the Association of Federal Defense Attorneys (AFDA), located at http://www.afda.org The message board was installed on Friday, July 19, and it's there to serve the interests of the defense community. The board should be used strictly for professional purposes, to exchange ideas on the law, ask colleagues for input on strategies, share views or inquire about government agents and witnesses, and so forth. No personal or social conversation, please. You are also welcome to join AFDA online by clicking the "Join AFDA" bar on the home page of the web site. System Operator email to: Operator(a)afda.org

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