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Thank You
by Joe Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Thank you for your recent inquire. President, Joe Anonymous Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com

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Re: Br'er Tim and the Bug Hole
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- Date: Wed, 12 Nov 1997 10:30:20 -0500 To: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)pathfinder.com> From: Solveig Singleton <solveig(a)cato.org> Subject: Re: Br'er Tim and the Bug Hole (fwd) I am simply delighted to see that there is a cypherpunk/ferret connection. They are charming animals; you simply have not lived until you have had one deploy its highly evolved predatory instincts to pull the insoles out of all your shoes and hide them under the bed, along with all the attachments from the vacuum cleaner. Feel free to post this, if you like.

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by Jim6＠jamesy.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: Some IDIOT called CRYPTO CZAR INTERNATIONAL
by bureau42 Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Tue, 11 Nov 1997, VME Encryption wrote: > p.s. - I wonder if you know what's the source of all the bad rep we've got > - nobody knows us and we never posted anything on your forum, so what the > heck ? Exactly. You have not posted the source code to your allegedly secure crypto algorithm, so every serious cryptographer will laugh at you. Without independent verification, and lots of it, the only people who will consider your product are lobotomized IT departments. We've never heard of you before; we don't even know who your developers are, so we can only assume they haven't "done their homework." In essence: you have now been branded as complete morons. The only way to avoid having to leave the country is to make the complete source for your crypto available on your website in the next 24 hours. Noncompliance will lead to your mysterious reciept of a suitcase, followed shortly by the mysterious disappearance of a large portion of your city. AlgorithmMonger

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Info
by Wu Tang 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Does anyone have comments, used, or know the strength of George Barwoods' Elliptic Curve Cryptosystem "Pegwit" at http://ds.dial.pipex.com/george.barwood/v8/pegwit.htm ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Minor Language Note
by nobody＠neva.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Tim May wrote: >My main point was that James Dalton Bell has already spent nearly 7 >months in jail, and has yet to even be sentenced. While it was not Tim's intention to make Jim look like a criminal, the use of a defendent's full name is often used to connote criminality. Lee Harvey Oswald, John Wilkes Booth, John Wayne Gacy, Richard Milhous Nixon, William Jefferson Clinton... there are many examples. I propose we call Jim by the name he calls himself: Jim Bell. Monty Cantsin Editor in Chief Smile Magazine http://www.neoism.org/squares/smile_index.html http://www.neoism.org/squares/cantsin_10.htm -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNGi3i5aWtjSmRH/5AQGFEgf/VcTdGTAqLir3+aBSGPl+sO++KwtOtZca Kg5tqBo1LtC28oVR53mHt86sCaffHy7Rq8kVgycFVg9KArvvvQteUacKpVXfuGpr TbqALDb3+6n2W/wEym51wbtJxUF8Vjfd30arXaoXx2DxZkJymPv4CR6YSkfZQlzA d3bezJKYNxBFiKeXM/0x2CVxF3wVnA7DA93WiwVWwfcHQGw83G3iGeN3+MqumykV Ts5HDS+7DJ0KUndmvcFwGQpAozvM+fbiA1mKJDwh0PmJmECodGAeV5jFhGBhG2GG JC+wMAdHBmYtq/5fbBd7UAfvIQ3gqGPWqxSBLlousQyCd+72iMWOMg== =JS9d -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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about RC4
by Nobuki Nakatuji 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Is inhabit RC4 sourcecode same RC4 developed RSADSI perfectly ? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

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Re: Mad as Hell
by Blanc 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May wrote: >Colorado state Senator Charles Duke, also in the studio audience, >spoke about the 10th Amendment Sovereignty Resolution, a modern >version of Magna Carta designed to force a constitutional showdown >with the federal government. This sounds interesting! This is what I had in mind, in that other thread about "What Will Revolution Look Like" >[...]A merchandise ine with caps, t-shirts with the blazing >l "Mad As Hell" logo is also planned. However, this is unfortunate. Trinkets like these may bring in useful and needed funds, but they take away from the seriousness of the effort, from the respect the cause deserves. They make the wearers look like weenies playing a child's game, rather than serious individuals in their rights minds with the concentration and commitment to do important work for the purpose at hand. (In a silly mood, I could see a gathering of such supporters in a large, crowded courtroom, all wearing T-shirts saying, "It's *ShowTime* !!!" ) .. Blanc

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Re: SWAT: A Growth Industry
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Dan Veeneman wrote: > US News & World Report 11/17/97 > Everyone gets into the terrorism game > BY DAVID E. KAPLAN > >Congress...allocated more than a billion dollars in support ... > Even the toughest critics acknowledge that many of the new programs are > needed. For example, they agree that the training of local emergency > workers to deal with a chemical or biological attack is long overdue. Are these guys with the same government that ignores the fact that the development of antibiotic-resistant *natural* diseases due to the greed of the medical and pharmaceutical industries may well lead to more death and disaster than any terrorist threat?

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Re: crypto for porno users
by Jay Campbell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> a) "no one on the net knows you're a dog" implies that police can > pose as a fellow porn producer or consumer and get away with it > more easily. > > b) strong crypto for communications between porn users encourages > them to speak more freely. When one of the two is a police officer > in disguise, that encourages the other (the suspect) to reveal more, > making the investigation proceed more quickly. Knowing that the > crypto is strong enough to keep government eavesdroppers out, the > sender is given a false sense of security -- is distracted from > thinking about the trustworthiness of the receiver while thinking > about the security of the channel itself. A common way to get around prostitution sting operations is to ask the lady to expose sensitive portions of her anatomy to prove her sincerity before the would-be customer commits to any transactions; this sort of thing is also becoming commonplace on the net for pornography or pirated software, too. Would-be trafficers often ask a prospective recipient for a small chunk of fresh files in advance, before passing back anything serious .. partially out of suspicion, mostly out of greed, but to the same end. A law enforcement team would be stepping onto shaky ground if they were forced to transfer illegal images/etc to a suspected trafficer before getting evidence from him. Entrapment is an ugly concept. >3. Encryption of porn would work against the kind of porn distribution > found on the alt.binary.pictures.erotic... newsgroups. Encryption > requires that recipients be identified. Not at all .. a porn distributor could generate a key pair, use part A to encode the images, and dessiminate part B thru a variety of outlets - publicly posted, sold, passed thru an informal network of like-minded netizens... >4. Personal file encryption encourages individuals dealing with porn to > encrypt and keep personal diaries which might contain evidence. > Since PGP is subject to brute force passphrase attacks, this gives > an attack which will open *some* of these diaries. Without the > encryption, the suspect is less likely to keep the diary in the > first place. This isn't a guaranteed opening into all such > diaries. There is no such guarantee possible. Rather, this > suggests that strong crypto has a chance to maximize the effective > "take" by LE forces. I would argue the exact opposite - strong crypto would tend to minimize the effective take, since there's no guarantee that /anything/ on a perp's system will be in the clear. I'll let someone else with a better background pound on the 'brute force' section. -- Jay Campbell edge(a)got.net - Operations Manager -=-=-=-=-=-=- Sense Networking, Santa Cruz Node Jay(a)Campbell.net got.net? PGP MIT KeyID 0xACAE1A89 "On the Information Superhighway, I'm the guy behind you in this morning's traffic jam leaning on his horn."

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