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KC is an Idiot
by Benjamin Chad Wienke 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 01:00 AM 11/16/97 -0800, Kent Crispin wrote: >Hmm -- I've been robbed at gunpoint 3 times, pistol-whipped once. The >perpetrators were all minorities; none were ever caught. Possessing a >gun at the time wouldn't have made a positive difference in any of the >cases, incidentally. (I own several guns; I am quite familiar with >guns; I no longer really have a use for them, though.) I thought Kent was a liberal suckup shill, but now I realize he is merely a stupid jackass. Unless Kent walks around in a semipermanent state of rectal defilade, having a gun in his posession WOULD have made a significant difference in each case. A certain amount of situational awareness IS required to have your gun aimed at the punk(s) before the punks get the drop on you. Anyone unable to be aware of their surroundings deserves whatever they get--natural selection removing stupid genes from the pool and all that. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Business Security 5.5 iQEVAwUBNG/tXPVLt662DSXhAQF89Qf+PDc57MywdPm+Fq3UxUekkbwRs9Ltp8bo 1owPCO2Ea3rBTm7+sWBklDNbNc2RXA0Id6BZv3PDxkJtKvimsMiaQ9jfxk/x+tts jNpZWSJnN3AJWdsqF1t9nD7A6cVl/MAS5gC6A16rNcG1IKVCB4Om6kD9e1Dc+d1W ynzUxEQ7y0xbs5YnZvZtDSHjTPSSGEIDThBQMkuhXVH8Uy7MCTbLMhG9Y3alF+ET ydxVqIPxZzKWV/vBC9DC9OkOymKoL/bAoZYk85qgUSk/B6Boj6SNizN9uYaUNB4n eNtW4FL/tSuPxjJyDDZhyEiMGvvkjD4TawTTtOXWMt4lPHeTnjKuoQ== =wGpo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com

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Re: Hard To Read PGP 5.5 Key
by Jonathan Wienke 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 01:47 AM 11/17/97 -0800, SL Baur wrote: >Bill Stewart <stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com> writes: > >> "Benjamin Chad Wienke" <woodwose(a)mailexcite.com> >> posted a message with the PGP 5.5 key attached below. >> My Eudora 3.0.3 plugin couldn't find any PGP-relevant information, > >Maybe you need a more modern email program. > >It worked fine for me with the (relatively ancient) Mailcrypt in >XEmacs. Try highlighting the public key block including the "Begin Public Key" and the "End Public Key" lines, then click the extract key button. I use Eudora 3.0.3 and that worked fine. I think the multiple keys in the message may confuse the plug-in. Jonathan Wienke PGP Key Fingerprints: 7484 2FB7 7588 ACD1 3A8F 778A 7407 2928 3312 6597 8258 9A9E D9FA 4878 C245 D245 EAA7 0DCC "If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you. May your chains set lightly upon you; and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." -- Samuel Adams "Stupidity is the one arena of of human achievement where most people fulfill their potential." -- Jonathan Wienke RSA export-o-matic: print pack"C*",split/\D+/,`echo "16iII*o\U@{$/=$z;[(pop,pop,unpack"H*",<> )]}\EsMsKsN0[lN*1lK[d2%Sa2/d0<X+d*lMLa^*lN%0]dsXx++lMlN/dsM0<J]dsJxp"|dc`

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Re: Hey Punk!!
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Josh Lynch writes: > I just mailed Jason. I feel like an asshole about missing my third day. > I haven't got any sleep since tuesday, and I haven't kept any food down > since Subway yesterday. I have a nice fever, and I can't sleep because my > stomach feels nautious (sp?). Well enough of my sob story, I think I made > a great impression today (not) you'll probably be lucky to see me tomarrow > if I get fired. Oh yeah, on top of all that I miss the metting that I > needed to go to the most. Later > > josh > > On Wed, 5 Nov 1997, Super-User wrote: > > > Hey ya punk!! > > > > What's this crap about being sick?? Ya punk, wheere's the desire, the > > ambition, the need to puke on your client's terminal?? > > We're headed out to Impressions Inc. to do some Xinet shit and to talk > > to the Xinet Rep. Jason wanted you to come along to meet Xinet reps. > > Ya better feel special 'cause I never got asked to meet any reps, I had > > to corner'em and kick their ass to get a response. Anyway, if you feel > > good enough to come with, call Jason's cel @ 8674526 or the condo @ > > 9276596. > > > > Later, > > Murray > > > > > > P.S.- I made you an account on the SGI (josh, passwd:calvin1) ^^^^ ^^^^^^^ > > IP:206.144.185.110 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Note the risks of sending passwords in cleartext and fucking up the e-mail addresses so they end up in my orphan mailbox. :-) --- Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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Overcoming War with Information
by Secret Squirrel 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Steve Schear wrote: >Many injustices follow from form and scale of government. I won't be the >first to point out that as the number of people, geography and ethnic >diversity increase governance becomes ever more difficult and as is the >balancing of individual liberty over the "overiding interests of the >society." The solution is clear, the method of its emergence is not. >Smaller geo-political units. I doubt that our pressing social and political >problems can be adequately delt with until the scale of governance is >changed, but this requires those in the center to give up much and >historically this has rarely if ever happened without bloodshed. Monty Cantsin wrote elsewhere: >One of the things that appeals to me about the tools the cypherpunks >are developing is the likelihood that they will end war. What >percentage of wars are instigated and organized by governments? That >is, how many wars can we think of in which a war originated in the >population of country and dragged its unwilling government into the >fray? I cannot think of any. War is often used to justify the existence of government. If politicians can convince the people that they have an enemy that must be destroyed, the people willingly give their lives and livelihood to the government to fight this assumed enemy. War feeds the expansion of a government's power over its citizens. After the war has ended, the government maintains this newfound power. Interestingly, the 20th century, which has been the bloodiest in recorded history, has also been the century of failed experiments in large-scale government. The former Soviet Union and Yugoslavia are clear examples of what happens when different groups of people (who would rather not be associated) are forced to live together at the point of a gun. The disolution of the Soviet Union and Yugoslavia, and the subsequent violence and unrest clearly illustrate the results of forced association. Governments are impedements to the free and voluntary interaction among the world's people. Look how vehemently governments attempt to block the flow of certain types of information to their people. Trade barriers, censorship and control of communications channels are three of the tools governments use to restrict a free global society. The trend now is toward smaller political units. The recent dissolution of former socialist nation-states is one example. The growth in the "State Sovereignty" movement in America is another. "Those in the center", as Steve refers to them, may not have any choice about giving up what they have. Their only hope would be to spread enough lies (via the mass media channels) to convince the majority of people to back them, in another war of course. We must remember that people are reluctant -- and for good reason -- to go to war. Common sense prevails, though it may not be exercised all that often. War can be avoided if the truth of the situation is revealed to the populace: the spotlight shone on the puppetmasters. At the same time, clear solutions to the problems that have accumulated due to blind faith in an unworkable system have to be presented and implemented. The transition will not be easy. We have our work cut out for us. Nerthus -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0 Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBNG85MeFWwZe05jcJAQFddAf/boDWEY9HU5OxiRkOthDmEOn6fGbe/m/q r1QJz26TYQ+VH/3fMjbHeTpcOv9LwPPFpFx0HgW+FQOjFs5cBDUfbAZCliq8mDb8 CLXLmqh/DeFEPtMDMHHMakIYxT+uL06vR2jWXyvQFHQZLX/D0PvLTDf2/PFN2B3A yKln3C5yDcO54aHmlWjMz3nBVMBokGYcrvqUj8qlTX29B7CVq3bFPlbtm98mUhrD tpHCAHgLugjocNcoKPcNZblB0G52SP6uN/gvQj9fm0dixqKZbMjp6VHWpTAkQ2HR dfGlpcEZz7rnf3teqOMHlY858Z0Dkax+/9GvBbBSv8yGcOeaZRQuow== =eqJh -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Secret No More: FBI Files
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

An informative site, titled "Secret No More," lists FBI files of 2000 targets compiled by Michael Ravnitzky from FOIA requests: http://www.crunch.com/01secret/01secret.htm Happy to report that at least three of the targets (one named thrice) dragnetted this rioter in younger days at Columbia, maybe others have shagged me since.

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by MakeCash＠moremoney.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: [cpe:4545] Mission:Critical and Informal Fallacies
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

TruthMonger wrote: >Robert Hettinga wrote: >> Notice >> that argumentum ad hominem is when you discount someone's opinion because >> of who they are or what they do. Vuperative insults, it seems, are another >> thing altogether. :-). > > Right... Like we're going to believe this when communist pedophile >Nazi cocksucker Robert Hettinga tells it to us. Careful, TM, you're starting to sound like a member of the Usenet Kook Cabal. > I bet that when I look up 'vuperative' in the dictionary, he'll be >wrong about that, too. I was stuck on 'vituperative.' Shows what I know. But 'attack the messenger, not the message' is old news here. >AdHomineMonger Kiss my ass. :-)

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No Subject
by bureau42 Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On or About 16 Nov 97 at 16:30, Tim May wrote Subject: Re: Exporting crypto from Japan: > Get the RSA chip released widely and quickly. The drug trade in Asia > could use it right now. Yes, yes, yes. This is the kind of talk I like. Much better than the talk of nukes, and guns. > (No, this is not a joke. I favor full availability of any and all > drugs to anyone who wants them. This makes the Triads and Yakuza > allies in defeating the New World Order. The ComSec 3DES phones are > a step in defeating the DEA, Interpol, and other police state > agencies, but the RSA chip would make a lot of such things much more > interesting.) Thank you, Tim. You have a very excellent point, here. All drugs should be legal. And I wish I had the balls to write this without using a remailer. But I'm a pot dealer, so I can't. Thanks for speaking for us. PotSeller

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17 Dec '03

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Overcoming War with Information
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Monty Cantsin writes: >One of the things that appeals to me about the tools the cypherpunks >are developing is the likelihood that they will end war. What >percentage of wars are instigated and organized by governments? That >is, how many wars can we think of in which a war originated in the >population of country and dragged its unwilling government into the >fray? I cannot think of any. That's a good point. Cypherpunk technologies should actually _reduce_ the scope of violence, killing, death. These technologies will make it easier to bypass regulations and reduce government control. Free access to communications will make it harder for governments to use propaganda to direct popular opinion as they have in the past. People communicating anonymously will be able to express unpopular views without fear of retribution. It's ironic that some of the greatest supporters of crypto privacy are also the ones who call for more killing, who support terrorist actions like the Oklahoma bombing or a nuclear massacre. They don't seem to understand what this technology is all about.

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