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Re: RealAudio website TEMPORARY PASSWORD
by Richard.Johnson＠Colorado.EDU 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > Username: cpunks >TEMPORARY Password: New.Norfolk > I assume that temp password will be changed to cypherpunks soon. Note that Username: cypherpu [8 char limit] Password: cypherpunks also works. Someone set it up a few months ago. Richard

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Re: CANADIAN PRESS REPORTS (was Re: CSE gets flak on TV)
by anonymous-remailer＠shell.portal.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sat, 18 Nov 1995 anonymous-remailer(a)shell.portal.com wrote: > >Taking three successive news stories from three days ... (press stories, > >I've since pulled for my own reference) and pasting them together to > >indicate some type of Machiaevellian?? (sp) exercise is simply "not done." > > I still feel such a sense of violation with what LD did, such an utter > sense of helplessness at the character assassination I've suffered at his > hands, that I feel that I must take some token action to "set the > record straight". Something which clears my name. > > Here is the TRUE unedited story for the list which Deitweiler felt he > had to TWIST to the nth degree. His attempt at making mountains out > of mole hills will not succeed with this one. This story truly is a non-starter. Big deal. It really has no relevance to this international list. This is simply a Canadian matter. So Canada spied on its allies -- Mexico and South Korea particularly -- and possibly picked up some information which helped Canada to outbid the United States on a lucrative wheat deal with China. So what?? As they say ... you snooze you loose. Deitweiler's attempt to get American farmers into the picture isn't going to work. The part about wheat sales isn't even remotely relevant to the story. It's a single paragraph. CSE has a mandate and follows it. No one needs to listen to Deitweiler's rantings and whinings, and his so-called outrage. As the box at the end of the story shows, Canada simply doesn't currently have the budget to do a really broad search of the United States or Mexico. It just can't pick up every American's phone calls. The story isn't about that. It's simply about listening in on a woman's phone call to her doctor. His attempt to make more out of this than what is actually there, and in the process to sully my good name won't work. Let the readers judge for themselves, based on the ORIGINAL stories rather than LD's cut and paste and his personal *commentary*. And hopefully no one will judge me, for his words. Let the story simply speak for itself. SPY WORLD Electronic snooping part of the trade game with friendly countries Intelligence agencies comb the airwaves for useful data Jim Bronskill The Canadian Press OTTAWA Intelligence experts said Monday it's no big secret that Canada's high-tech spy agency snoops on friendly countries for financial gain. Increasingly, intelligence agencies around the world are using their antennas, computers and codebreakers to gather economic information, said Wesley Wark, a University of Toronto history professor. Some of Canada's largest trading partners -- including the United States, France and Japan -- comb the airwaves for useful information, so Canada would be foolish not to join the game, said Wark. "I don't know what a friendly power in the economic sphere is, exactly, these days," he said. "That seems to be a very ambiguous term." Canada's secretive Communications Security Establishment -- an arm of the Defence Department -- collects and analyses communications traffic on the activities of foreign states, corporations and people. Jan Shorten, a former CSE employee, told CTV News in an interview Sunday the agency spied on Canada's allies and trading partners -- including Mexico and South Korea -- by eavesdropping on embassies, consulates and diplomats. In a follow-up segment for broadcast Monday, Shorten said the CSE frequently intercepted telephone conversations and faxes of Canadians working at foreign embassies in Canada. The government acknowledged earlier this year it uses CSE data to help develop foreign and defence policies. In New Zealand where a meeting of Commonwealth countries just wrapped up, Prime Minister Jean Chretien did not deny Canada is spying on allies. "This is an organization that works within the law of Canada," Chretien told reporters. "They do not report to me on a daily basis and I cannot make any comments on if they are spying on anybody, I don't know. "But they have a mandate to check a few things around the world. Probably somebody is listening to us at this moment." The prime minister also said that of any laws have been broken, "somebody will have to pay the price." In a book published last year, former CSE employee Mike Frost told how the agency electronically picked up information that helped Canada outbid the United States on a lucrative 1982 wheat deal with China. Such clandestine behaviour may be unethical, but countries do it, said U.S. journalist David Kahn, who has written extensively on intelligence matters. "It's just too valuable to give up," said Kahn, a visiting historian at the National Security Agency, the CSE's much larger U.S. cousin. "I wouldn't be surprised if the United States was trying to break Canadian codes." Ottawa maintains that the CSE, the NSA and their counterparts in Britain, Australia and New Zealand have all agreed not to spy on each other. The government also says the CSE does not target Canadians and scrupulously abides by Canadian laws. Shorten said the CSE stepped up its operations against foreign embassies in Canada in 1991. She recalled hearing conversations of Canadinas employed there -- even one woman's phone call to her doctor. An appalled Shorten eventually confronted her boss, who assured her the practice was legal. The agency is obligated to destroy information about Canadians it scoops up in its electronic net, said Wark. A rare exception might be a phone call describing a terrorist plot. [The story also had a little box with some Quick Facts in it] QUICK FACTS EMPLOYEES: About 900 1995-96 BUDGET: $113 Million HQ: Sir Leonard Tilley Building, behind a three metre fence tipped with barbed wire in south Ottawa. ROLE: Secretive arm of Defence Department monitors and anlyses communications about activities of foreign states, corporations and individuals. Also helps government stop Canadian signals from being intercepted. SHARES: Intelligence with counterparts in United States, Britain, Australia, New Zealand. And that's all she wrote ...

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Ponzi Web
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

NY Times, 11-20-95, front page. If Medium Is the Message, the Message Is the Web By John Markoff San Francisco, Nov. 19 -- The Associated Press was formed in the mid-19th century when a group of newspapers decided to invest jointly in a newfangled medium -- the telegraph -- to speed the collection and dissemination of information. Last week, A.P. announced that it would adopt a newer-fangled medium -- the World Wide Web -- to begin distributing its articles and photographs over the global Internet. It was simply the latest, but perhaps most historically significant, move yet by an old-line media organization into the World Wide Web, the Internet multimedia information-retrieval system that appears on the verge of becoming a mass medium itself. If the medium is the message, then the message these days is the World Wide Web. In short order the Web, which three years ago was little more than a research tool for physicists and computer hobbyists, has flourished. It is being embraced by media concerns, consumer-product companies and businesses of various stripes that are creating thousands of so-called Web sites each month, with the number of computers playing host to one or more of these sites already exceeding 100,000. Conservative estimates place the number of people who have used the Web in the millions, and it is not hard to find more breathless estimates in the tens of millions. Capable of letting people use computers to send and receive text, sound, still images and video clips, the Web incorporates elements of the various print and electronic media that have preceded it. And yet, the Web is poised not to replace its predecessors but to take a place alongside them as a social, cultural and economic force in its own right. Its complementary role is already evident: many radio stations and all the major television networks have Web sites promoting their programs and stars. Newspapers, including The New York Times, are devising cyberspace editions. And few movies anymore are released without a promotional Web site, including "Goldeneye" the James Bond film that opened this weekend at theaters everywhere and on the Web at the address http://www.mgmua.com/bond. The site offers the movie's theme song performed by Tina Turner, more than a dozen video clips from the film and illustrated biographies of the cast members. Prime-time television commercials by Toyota and other advertisers now routinely include a Web address. And Procter & Gamble, whose advertising has long helped underwrite the mass media, has even staked out prime Web real estate by reserving addresses that include flu.com and toiletpaper.com. "We are poised on the edge of a new medium," Clay Felker, director of the magazine program at the University of California at Berkeley's graduate journalism school, said. "It's going to change the nature of how we acquire information." As with each mass medium that has arrived before it, the Web has reached this threshold through a confluence of a key technology, a ready audience and a stream of corporate backers willing to bet that profitable businesses can be built on it. But few experts are willing to declare that the Web has taken its place in the mass media pantheon because the profitable business formulas have yet to be found. Newspapers and magazines make money by selling individual copies, subscriptions and advertising space. Radio and television stations sell air time to those with money and a message. Movie theaters sell tickets. But on the Web so far, despite seed-money by adventurous advertisers and some tentative efforts to charge for access to sites or services, there is no certainty that this medium will achieve the critical mass that capitalism demands of its mass media. "How do you make a business out of the World Wide Web?" asked Norman Pearlstine, editor in chief of Time Inc., which has an experimental Web site called Pathfinder that offers selected contents from the company's magazines (http://www.pathfinder.com) But because ad revenue alone is not carrying the freight, Time Inc. will begin testing ways to charge visitors to its site. And yet, the technological prerequisites are firmly in place. The Web is an outgrowth of the Internet, which began as an academic research experiment in the late 1960's. For more than two decades the Internet remained largely inaccessible, used mainly by computer scientists and Pentagon researchers, university scholars and students. Then came the World Wide Web. Like the Internet, the Web began as a tool to let scientists easily and quickly share information. Conceived in the late 1980's by Tim Berners-Lee, who was then a software designer at CERN, the Swiss physics research center, the basic Web technology was first put to use in 1990. The big breakthrough came in 1992, when student researchers at the National Center for Supercomputing Applications in Illinois created Mosaic, a simple software tool called a Web browser. Mosaic permitted access to information anywhere on tke World Wide Web by letting the user point and click a computer mouse on highlighted words or images on the screen. The browser, which became available in commercial versions like Netscape Communications' Navigator, not only made Web sites easily accessible, it prompted businesses, organizations and even individuals to create new Web sites by the thousands. Thus did the Web quickly become a standard and accepted way for the growing millions of the computer-literate to communicate and to entertain and inform themselves. And unlike each previous mass medium, the Web does not require its audience to be merely passive recipients of information. For very little money, and with a modicum of computer skills, virtually anyone can create his or her own Web site. Anyone with a modem is potentially a global pamphleteer. One consequence of this democratization is that the Web can be a remarkably anarchic forum compared with the old-style mass media. "Think of this as television colliding with the telephone party line," said Paul Saffo, a computer industry consultant at the Institute for the Future, a Menlo Park, Calif., research firm. "In terms of social consequences, the Web is a great experiment. It's going to deliver us community with a vengeance -- and we may find we don't want it." ----- NYT, 11-20-95, Business Section. Losses From Computer Breaches Are on the Rise, a Study Finds By Peter H. Lewis Financial losses from computer break-ins and other security breaches are on the rise, according to a survey of corporate computer-security managers, with nearly half of all companies reporting losses as a result of hackers, viruses, sabotage, corporate spies and incompetent employees. At least 20 of the 1,290 companies responding to the annual security survey from Information Week magazine and the consulting firm Ernst & Young, reported losses of more than $1 million last year. But the poll also found that companies were more aware of the risks arising from growing reliance on computer networks, and were taking stronger steps to protect their information systems. "There is definitely increased awareness on the part of senior management," said Daniel White, national director of information security at Ernst & Young's Chicago office. But Mr. White said that despite increased vigilance by computer security officers, the lack of security tools made it risky to conduct electronic-document interchange and other sensitive business operations on the Internet. "Lots of organizations are using the Internet in a thoughtful way for marketing and information dissemination," Mr. White said. "But do I really want to use it" for an electronic-document transaction? "Not yet." Details of the survey, the third annual one, are in the Nov. 28 issue of Information Week, available this week. Among other findings were that nearly 80 percent of companies surveyed had at least one full-time information-security officer, a slight increase from last year. Of those, 45 percent report directly to the corporation's chief information officer, reflecting the growing recognition of the importance of computer security, Mr. White said. Nearly 70 percent of those responding said their companies had sustained a serious virus attack in the last year, a sharp rise from 54 percent two years ago. -----

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negative reputation (was: WRITTEN CODE)
by anonymous-remailer＠shell.portal.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Daniel 'genius' Charpentier <drcharpe(a)hamlet.uncg.edu> wrote: > he mentioned his desire to see more cryptographic program code and > I didn't want to see this initiative die. I am a new commer to > cryptography and I know I shouldn't be posting yet but that is > what I thought cypherpunk postings was supposed to be in the first > place ( program code, protocols, and algorithms ). Please don't > flame me to badly for this message. I am doing everything I am > supposed to before posting ( reading the FAQ's, the entire > cypherpunk archive, and APPLIED CRYPTOGRAPHY by Bruce Schneier ) It sounds like you are afraid of getting a negative reputation. Well don't be. Simply create a persistent pseudonym and sign your messages with it instead. That way, if it turns out that everyone disagrees with you and/or flames you to death, you can simply disgard your old pseudonym. Otherwise you keep your pseudonym and continue to post under it. This technique is not new, so you may already have seen it in the archive. Logically, a pseudonym is simply a public key. However you may want to give it a human-readable name so other people may more easily refer to it. If you decide to do this, I suggest that you do not name the key on its first post because there is a high probability that you will decide to disgard the key. If you name it and throw it away, then you have unnecessarily cluttered up the limited name space. - a new entity, as yet unnamed - -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMK5/P42Fr67QcvwZAQGVdwP5AaE5MR8JztPBv1k/0GdVlZSzuBBMboRW d7Ofyw2EloKS7YTgb+ZoGDT92h+n5Yzpp5Jb5+0zm8iDLQbm0RTQJxE86Ty4DrO4 5w1CUCSa8VF4mTVoRvyaYrWHTq4uxOj4LAPC6Zxx5qIPUSRgceWoYsmEoarIYYLU FEhnF34o5m0= =T80R - -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6.2 mQCNAzCuftgAAAEEAL35udZ/l0s590SjtzSM9eAepxAGe9Mp38ZoTsvfmNQh008W sLtiYKmSYKBPuuRZIpYBZEjLZry5p6xHUpsKuflNXy7sdeHBviU+x8J57ip4DLx2 +tlv4dtjLKxzVGEqEfWOb3oRHCJ1t2IgV5A9RBzp2SXke56pTo2Fr67QcvwZAAUT tBxhIG5ldyBlbnRpdHksIGFzIHlldCB1bm5hbWVk =h9Uo - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- - --- [This message has been signed by an auto-signing service. A valid signature means only that it has been received at the address corresponding to the signature and forwarded.] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Gratis auto-signing service iQBFAwUBMK5/9SoZzwIn1bdtAQFS0wF+NyWTvLIZr05q8O4LOCgM0W1lHKBy+iu3 P3k3Yy7+FIS15erO88CDpwIBbywqQ+Pa =wJn0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Anderson on SSL
by dlv＠bwalk.dm.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

One of the mags I get for free is called _OEM_. It recently ran an interview with Marc Anderssen from Netscape. I'll key in a few crypto-relevant passages. ... Q. Everyone's looking for ways to make money on the World Wide Web. What is the future for advertisers on the Web? A. Advertisements in an interactive medium definitely function best as a service; really, the line between advertising, informational marketing and direct sales blurs incredibly quickly. I expect a lot of creativity to be devoted to pulling people into commercial sites and keeping them there, including continuing sponsorship of innovative content. Q. Do you see many small transactions as a possible model for making money on the Web? A. Tiny transactions will be a part of the grand scheme of things. They'll make possible the 2-cent joke of the day and lots of appropriate forms of content. Q. How will people deal with getting costs down for each transaction to eke out a profit? A. That's the challenge for the companies that intent to make money processing tiny transactions. I can't wait to see who does it first. Q. Now that the InterNIC has started to charge for domain names, do you, as an Internaut, miss the anarchistic, "anything goes" community the Net once was? A. The Internet was never really anarchistic and "anything goes". It was always a cooperative venture that everyone derived benefit from. That's pretty much the case. In fact, I still get a thrill -- more now than ever -- when I go through directories like Yahoo. There's much more out there on the Net now. Everything is accelerating. ... Q. Do you think that the Netspace's Secure Sockets Layer (SSL) is the de facto standard for Internet security now? A. SSL is a de facto standard, widely adopted throughout the industry by Microsoft, Novell, Apple, IBM, Sun, Digital Equipment, Intel, MasteCard, Visa, etc. The security space is a very broad space, though, and SSL solves a specifically defined set of problems: encryption and authentication for a secure data channel over TCP/IP. There are many other problems yet to solve. Other protocols will play a role in solving those problems, and we will support them. Q. What happened to the deal with Enterprise Integration Technologies and its Secure Hypertext Protocol (S-HTTP), which was Netscape's only real competition in the area of secure server software? A. Early this year, we announced that Netscape (along with IBM/Prodigy, America Online and Compuserve) became an investor and partner in Terisa Systems, which was previously a joint venture of EIT and RSA Data Security. All Parties agreed to support both SSL and S-HTTP. Unfortunately, Terisa has been unable to ship its toolkit, so things haven't gone as well as we had all hoped. In the meantime, virtually everyone is supporting SSL [but not S-HTTP]. Q. Do you think that your server software, and especially your protocol Secure Courier, will lessen the public perception that credit-card entries aren't safe on the Net? A. I think it's happening. We're in the middle of a broad shift in consumer behavior, and there will be a lot of exciting things happening over the next few years as a result. Things are definitely warming up right now. Of course, one of the great things about doing business on the Net is that it's a lot cheaper for the merchant than doing business in the "real" world. One of the broad trends we're starting to see is that a lot of entrepreneurial companies will be coming up on the Net. They, more than anyone, will help drive the shift in consumer behavior by offering innovative goods and services and innovative ways. ... --- Dr. Dimitri Vulis Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps

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Visual Basic 4.0 encryption prog.
by Eric Anderson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I just scored a copy of visual basic 4.0 and I was wondering how feasible it would be to write a program for Window$ 95 that would use RSA or IDEA and the Win95 exchange interface. I plan on buying Applied Cryptography probably on Fri. when I get paid. My requirements/goals are: 100% compatibility with M$ Exchange, ease of use (Point & Click/ drag & drop) and last but not least, STRONG public key encryption using "off-the shelf code. So my ??? Is this: Is it possible? Or should I just go out and buy a C++ compiler. I don't really care about ITAR or any of that other BS, I just won't put MY name on it.

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Re: negative reputation (was: WRITTEN CODE)
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 07:53 PM 11/18/95 -0500, a new entity, as yet unnamed wrote: >Logically, a pseudonym is simply a public key. However you may want >to give it a human-readable name so other people may more easily refer >to it. If you decide to do this, I suggest that you do not name the key >on its first post because there is a high probability that you will decide >to disgard the key. If you name it and throw it away, then you have >unnecessarily cluttered up the limited name space. > > - a new entity, as yet unnamed Here's the new entity's key, signed :-) I haven't added it to the PGP key servers; I'll leave that up to you... -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.7.1 Comment: PGP available outside U.S.A. at ftp.ox.ac.uk mQCNAzCuftgAAAEEAL35udZ/l0s590SjtzSM9eAepxAGe9Mp38ZoTsvfmNQh008W sLtiYKmSYKBPuuRZIpYBZEjLZry5p6xHUpsKuflNXy7sdeHBviU+x8J57ip4DLx2 +tlv4dtjLKxzVGEqEfWOb3oRHCJ1t2IgV5A9RBzp2SXke56pTo2Fr67QcvwZAAUT tBxhIG5ldyBlbnRpdHksIGFzIHlldCB1bm5hbWVkiQCVAwUQMK61KfnzJsm1fsvF AQGJeAP/c0DO4e1y4SIpLAF9vJwqr6ewFHWopHJRprWUUyBhH+TRehOQLPgocwR/ 7lOILgfizrLshu5W5fOyY+pjBVj6LssF8dILMe81I5LjlDT58NVtkfPDdkHNxFpf fgEmJlKYYfsCrXDlwn0RAFwzLC1x+1okAoixhvLWx7ygr1rpyKA= =PED/ -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- #-- # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, Freelance Information Architect, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # Phone +1-510-247-0663 Pager/Voicemail 1-408-787-1281

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Re: CANADIAN PRESS REPORTS (was Re: CSE gets flak on TV)
by anonymous-remailer＠shell.portal.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Alice here (the real one) ... On Sat, 18 Nov 1995, Perry E. Metzger wrote: > I hope everyone realizes that Detweiler is probably arguing with > himself, three levels deep. I must admit that the levels he stoops to > in order to draw attention to himself are pathetic. Why don't you just > stick to posting as Vlad Nurzi? Its more dignified. Deitweiler certainly is getting around ... but I'm beginning to have my doubts whether it is Deitweiler who is spoofing me. And Deitweiler might be Vlad Nurzi or whoever, but it seems that whoever is spoofing me -- whether it is Detweiler or not -- is privy to certain "facts" ... verifiable facts ... some of which are very worrisome. And its not just whatever news is breaking over the wire. anonymous-remailer(a)shell.portal.com writes: > > > > Here is the TRUE unedited story for the list which Deitweiler felt he > > had to TWIST to the nth degree. His attempt at making mountains out > > of mole hills will not succeed with this one. > > This story truly is a non-starter. Big deal. It really has no > relevance to this international list. This is simply a Canadian matter. I take this last comment back. It was premature. I think that this is in fact very relevant to this list. And it's not just a Canadian matter. My little spoofing-shadow, Mr. Mystery-Writer, seems to not only have a juvenile sense of humour, but seems to have a handle on some pretty sensitive information. His information isn't limited to how Canada was able to outbid the United States on a wheat deal with China, but his information encompassess matters of an order of greater significance, especially when Mr. Mystery-Writer wrote: > And that's the fleshed out version of the story. > > I'm just sorry that our Prime Minister is in such a bad position because > of the timing of this "Jane Shorten's" revelations. She also revealed > that Canada spied on Japan. > > To think ... Canadian Prime Minister Chretien is a guest of the Japanese > people today. Talk about some awkward moments. I mean, what on earth do > you talk about?? > > George Bush and Sushi?? Whoever it was who wrote this, they took a real swipe at a former President of the United States. This is very, very serious. Joking about Japanese / American relations is very black humour and is one thing, but taking an open swipe at a former American President is grossly inappropriate and was completely another, I thought. But, ironically, Mr. Mystery-Writer had incredible foreshadowing skills. > Let's see ... over the last couple of days, we've had one provincial > Premier resign over "BingoGate" -- kickbacks from bingo games, another > premier is under some pretty heavy fire for some insider trading in a > company he promoted in Hong Kong, (actually his wife got stock she never > had to pay for), while Canada in conjunction with the normally very > neutral Swiss have frozen accounts pertaining to about $20 million or so > in kickbacks from Airbus Industries to a "senior Canadian politician". > > And all these stories ... coincidentally ... broke back to back. This to me was the kicker ... especially in light of news which just broke tonight. Mr. Mystery-Writer was trying to throw a clue. And boy, what a clue it was. It wasn't the former President of the United States that he was speaking of ... it was the former Prime Minister of Canada. It was reported today that former Canadian Prime Minister Brian Mulroney has launched a $50 Million pre-emptive lawsuit against the Royal Canadian Mounted Police and the Canadian Department of Justice for their possible future allegation or possible future charge of taking kickbacks from Airbus Industries while the former Prime Minister held public office. This is one heck of a newsflash ... especially considering the co-operation of the normally secretive and discreet authorities in Switzerland. Can you imagine if former President George Bush had in fact launched a $50 Million pre-emptive lawsuit against the Federal Bureau of Investigation and the Department of Justice, because they were investigating him for something?? Or if George Bush tried to stop a news story through libel chill? My shadow was right (even if he did announce before the wires, did), Canadian politicians are beginning to drop like flies. Let the "Jane Shorten" Film-Fest begin. Can you pass the popcorn? Alice de 'nonymous ... ...just another one of those... P.S. This post is in the public domain. C. S. U. M. O. C. L. U. N. E.

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VB4 secure mail software
by Cybie＠cris.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

To the guy who was interested in writing a secure mail program that worked with MS Exchange in VB4, e-mail me... I was also thinking of working on something like that, we could probably work together on this.

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JIBC Annoucement
by GORD JENKINS 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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