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Some children are rabid and need to be put down (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 20:30:43 -0800 > From: Tim May <tcmay(a)got.net> > Subject: Some children are rabid and need to be put down > I know that if a kid was throwing chairs at me I'd be tempted to throw a > punch back...something that is strictly verboten. Lawsuits, criminal > prosecution, never work in the school system again, that sort of verboten. Let me get this straight, you would punch a 5 year old child? Tim, you truly have my sympathy and I sincerely hope that someday you deal with whatever it is that drives that sense of personal injustice and anger. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | When a man assumes a public trust, he should | | consider himself public property. | | | | Thomas Jefferson | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Jimbelling the Sheep (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: Eric Cordian <emc(a)wire.insync.net> > Subject: Jimbelling the Sheep > Date: Fri, 20 Feb 1998 23:20:51 -0600 (CST) > The FBI informant who orchestrated the capture of the recent "Anthrax > Terrorists" turns out to be a man twice convicted of felony extortion. In one of the news reports that I heard the informant was described as a cancer researcher who was approached with an offer to purchase some surplus lab equipment. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | When a man assumes a public trust, he should | | consider himself public property. | | | | Thomas Jefferson | | | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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by MikeF＠sbbsonline.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: FCPUNX:'close to the machine'
by Sal Denaro 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sun, 15 Feb 1998, Vladimir Z. Nuri wrote: > fun new book: "close to the machine" by Ellen Ullman. anybody > here seen/read it? a highly > personal and emotional book at times about working in the computer > industry. author is a software engineer whose done a lot of contract > work. I think many here will find it worth a look and/or worth I read it. After a while I noticed that I had a lot in common with the young programmer that she had an affair with. It took a while to come to terms with being a "type" :) There were two things about the book that I disliked: 1) Macho-computing. A number of consultants tend to act as if they are sliting the atom or landing a man on the moon as they work. While I agree that programming is hard work, and that a lot of what programmers do is on the edge, it is hardly ground breaking to implement YA DBMS, even if it is Java based and web-centric. 2) I think she was tring to hard to look technical. -- sal(a)panix.com Salvatore Denaro "The reality of the software business today is that if you find something that can make you ridiculously rich, then that's something that Microsoft is going to take away from you." -- Max Metral

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IRC CHAT Terrorism and Desert Thunder
by Betty G.O'Hearn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: ascii art is not a digital signature (Re: Cypherpunk Policeman?)
by Information Security 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> From aba(a)dcs.ex.ac.uk Wed Feb 25 04:19:12 1998 > > Guy <guy(a)panix.com> writes: > > > From aba(a)dcs.ex.ac.uk Tue Feb 24 18:55:45 1998 > > > > > > You sure? I mean it could as easily as not been someone spoofing him, > > > what with the various anonymous mails, etc., that you reported. > > > > It is a blatant obviousity. > > > > [series of ascii art posts posted via different remailer addresses, > > and bwalk.dm.com email addresses] > > It is not at all obvious. You seem to be under the illusion that an > ascii art image is some kind of digital signature. You seem to think people couldn't share a digital signature. > > Traffic analysis simply means convincing one or more people > > that it's the same person... > > Doesn't prove anything. Sure it does, I've proven that with PSI. Guess what happens if those people are a jury? > Here to make the point, I'll use one of your magic digital signature > ascii arts which somehow proves incontrovertably that the post was > made by Dimitri. I can see that one flew over your head, and pooped on you. ---guy

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17 Dec '03

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Re: Thank you, John Gilmore, for protecting freedom of speech against Dr. Dmitri Vulius [RANT]
by Gary Howland 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> But there's probably a logical reason for taking this "action", although it can > apparently be easily circumvented, even though many of us don't understand what > that logic could be. Yes. If only you knew what they knew ... :-) The mail filter is dead! Long live censorship, double standards and hypocrisy! Gary

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17 Dec '03

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Re: Killing the Unabomber
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> > : Didn't the government finally back down on their > > : attempt to legally kill the Unabomber? > > This point strikes me as pretty funny. Kinda like a nurse rooting > > for Charles Starkweather. >Or trying to be consistent. >Raygun: abortion is killing, but pro-death penalty. >If killing is wrong, killing again is wrong. No consistency involved - many of them would like to kill him. But they've Got Their Man, and he's made it clear that a trial will be difficult, long, expensive, involve lots of firing lawyers and arguing about mental competency, and generally be trouble, and he's offered to plead guilty if they won't kill him. Even though he's a highly intelligent cold-blooded killer, he's also close enough to crazy that the public will have enough sympathy for him that killing him won't be highly popular, especially because his brother wouldn't have turned him in if he'd expected him to be killed. Also, while his killings have been somewhat scary and weird, they haven't generated the kind of public outrage that the OKCity bombing did, with dead babies on the front page of the papers. The defendents there are going to get killed, and the public is going to enjoy it, and the Neilsen Ratings will be high. >Next time, the killer might not be caught because >the person who recognized (yea traffic analysis) >his talktalk might not want them killed as a result. >i.e. in the long run it will save lives. I think you're right here. Thanks! Bill Bill Stewart, bill.stewart(a)pobox.com PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF 3C85 B884 0ABE 4639

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