- cypherpunks-legacy - lists.cpunks.org

Hello
by Xavier Naveira 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hello!!!!

1 0

Cypherpunks Lite
by hshubs＠BIX.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Would the person who does this, or someone who can point me at him, contact me via e-mail please?

4 3

Re: Need a "warning" graphic of some kind for CDA
by tomservo＠access.digex.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>At 01:48 PM 2/4/96 EST, Greg Broiles wrote: >How about the circle-slash "no" symbol superimposed on the Constitution? Hmm, I kind of went the other way. I have a gif of a baby carriage in the standard red circle and slash. Anyone who wants it, feel free to use it. Resize it, reshape it, share it with your friends. (I feel much better about buying all that clip art now.) It's at: http://www.access.digex.net/~tomservo/gif/no_kids.gif Other suggestions? Feel free to e-mail me. I'll dig up what I can. (Next up: the "PGP-friendly" logo. . .) Scott -- Scott Fabbri tomservo(a)access.digex.net Later. Later. I'm watching hockey. Finger for PGP key.

1 0

Apology to Netscape.
by carolann＠censored.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Jeff Weintstein corrected me with: > This is what our press release said: > > An updated version of Netscape Navigator 1.1 for Mac OS > and Unix and Netscape Navigator 1.2 for Windows 3.1 and > Windows 95 will be available for downloading by existing > customers on the Internet next week. My apologies for the misquote. It only then makes the trading facts worse. Love Always, Carol Anne ps On the asides kind of things, do you realize the Netscape stock base of 5,000,000 shares is not a big sharebase? Coca-Cola's is 1,300,000,000. And by standards, your stock is really unstable. If Coca-Cola moves 3 points there'll be a trading halt, for the buying/selling imbalance will be too much. Even if only for 1 min. The trading halt gets the good or bad news onto "The Street". -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMGUCaYrpjEWs1wBlAQF9ZAP6AkMCsveSU/E8KFDi84urnAR2KlXT42rS l+9tHh33ZWbM6VmHUMkqelM11vc7zU1eWLhXlYHaoOqwGuTef9irQigbnr+HwYKL Px9480/Chm59RWCG6j4pp4d0xUQO9Pj0lbpIecn72eDYReRIgh5+MU0jOCNdUNLe RvP7XvYI570= =Nb9y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Member Internet Society - Certified BETSI Programmer - Webmistress *********************************************************************** Carol Anne Braddock (cab8) carolann(a)censored.org 206.42.112.96 My Homepage The Cyberdoc *********************************************************************** ------------------ PGP.ZIP Part [017/713] ------------------- M8H,),S$8G>&.WP(8IRA`-M['+`Q%&_C"">5-F%LX@<_Q$;*P'',Q$Z/AA[8M MF=O0H+*%(-S%&>S%+FS&<LS%3(Q&#W1"<]2%`H^;,]^1C$'HBN8PX$4SYAU^ MPGD<Q0ZLA0D+,`MCT!LA**4M[-JPAK9F?40!AJ,CW"'%DR#:'9?Q)3[%<DQ` ------------------------------------------------------------- for next chunk to export --> http://dcs.ex.ac.uk/~aba/export/

1 0

Re: Netscape for Linux?
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:42 PM 9/23/95 -0400, you wrote: >It seems to me that you folks are going out of your way to deny the >fact that the Linux market exists. I think that its because you are >embarassed that all these people with a $20 operating system are >throwing money at you while all the folks with $10K operating systems >aren't talking to you at all. > >While you may WANT to have all your sales be for OSF/1 machines or >solaris, but refusing to support Linux and ignoring the demand for >your products by the Linux community just because you don't think it >would sound as impressive, is actually quite childish and doesn't make >any financial sense. Foo. Supporting applications in a professional way on Linux is _tough_; everybody's got their own self-hacked copy that may have started out as SlackOS 4.1.3 but has the TooManyNotes Sound Widget replacement and has the XBrokenX video driver instead of the original one that didn't work on the TiltedSquareSneakyVideoCard and a way-cool new Obfuscated File System. It's like supporting things on "Unix" was back when everybody had source and a different flavor of M680x0 box. You can't just ask "Have you changed the AUTOEXEC.BAT since the machine came from the factory?" like Windoze app-vendors. Netscape may not have ever been _compiled_ with the compiler version the user has, much less tested on that kernel version, and the user may or may not know if their X Window System really is installed right or the TCP/IP connection works well and has working DNS support. Sure, it's easy to charge money for shipping the stuff with a diskette and a manual, but not doing so until they're ready to provide high-quality support isn't childishness, it's ethics (well, and/or bad-reputation-avoidance.) Now, I haven't checked whether they've trained all their people who answer phone calls from the public to acknowledge that there is an unsupported Linux version for folks who don't mind dealing with unsupported software, or if they've even got it on their Web site; the current version is there for ftp. #--- # Bill Stewart, Freelance Information Architect, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # Phone +1-510-247-0664 Pager/Voicemail 1-408-787-1281 #---

5 5

Re: So, what crypto legislation (if any) is necessary?
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 07:08 PM 4/9/96 -0700, Bill Frantz wrote: >At 3:21 PM 4/9/96 -0800, jim bell wrote: >>And the rest of us are tired of seeing those non-responses! > >I wish to state that Jim Bell does not speak for me. Tell me, what is the most exciting, interesting, and imaginative usage of "Yadda Yadda Yadda" that _you_ remember, Bill?

1 0

Re: Bulletin: Cypherpunks say no taxes owed by moneychanger
by Frank O. Trotter, III 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I know Frankin and will see him next week. His argument, which I have around here somewhere if I could get my paper life organized, realtes to gold and silver in certain situations. If I find it I will reference it, otherwise I'll ask if he will post to this group. FOT > Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 21:48:17 -0400 (EDT) > From: Alan Horowitz <alanh(a)mailhost.infi.net> > To: "Frank O. Trotter, III" <fotiii(a)crl.com> > Cc: cypherpunks(a)toad.com > Subject: Re: Bulletin: Cypherpunks say no taxes owed by moneychangers! > > Date: Mon, 8 Apr 1996 22:43:55 -5 > > From: Frank O. Trotter, III <fotiii(a)crl.com> > > Aside from ecash, helping people to exchange currency is my day job > > so I see this all the time, especially this month each year. > > There is a guy in Tennessee who publishes a newsletter called _The > Moneychanger_. He is one of those Constitutionalists. He did put himself > through hell to get acquited of an IRS charge - he is a dealer in gold > and silver and claimed that he wasn't selling anything, only changing > denominations of Money, with no profits. He won the federal case; the IRS > called their buds at the Tenn Dept of Revenue and had him indicted on a > failure-to-remit-sales-tax charge. He was convicted on that by the Jury > but he is appealing; meanwhile he only deals with out-of-Tenn people. > > Which just goes to show that convictions/acquitals under a jury system > have a lot of random-walk flavor. Further reference at the OJ Simpson > newsgroups. > > Frank O. Trotter, III - fotiii(a)crl.com www.marktwain.com - Fax: +1 314 569-4906 --------------------------------------------

1 0

Re: Disclosure of Public Knowledge to Foreigners
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>>Date: Tue, 9 Apr 1996 15:44:52 -0700 (PDT) >>From: shelley thomson <sthomson(a)netcom.com> >> The church of scientology plans to subpoena the records of every >>anonymous remailer in the USA. ... >> On the basis of events today, Ward believes the church will >>issue subpoenas for the records of every anonymous remailer in the USA. >> If these records are delivered to the church, our First Amendment >>rights go with them. They can have all the records for the pamphlet remailer from the relevant time periods - it doesn't keep any. I may have to start some sort of short-term log-keeping to deal with spam problems (for now, I've shut it down, because of a particularly hostile kind of spam that would require grepping the body of each outgoing message to stop, and I haven't written code for that.) If I do start logging, I'll probably also insist that all incoming traffic be encrypted. And there are certainly ECPA issues involved in a subpoena, as well as major First-Amendment issues, reporter shield law issues (though I gather those vary by state), and such. Good luck! # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com, +1-415-442-2215

1 0

Re: Anonymous Remailer threat: Scientologists may subpoena anonymous remailer records?
by Jim Byrd 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:01 AM 4/10/96 -0700, Jim Warren wrote: >My understanding is that the most famous remailer, anon.penet.fi, is of the >first flavor -- and was raided by reps of the Church of Scientology, >several years ago, with a Finnish search warrant, and that this produced >some [much?] of the evidence against their opponent who had allegedly been >splattering COS copyrighted "works" all over the net. (Interesting >application of private property rights -- protecting religious secrets.) The story is weirder than that. The first poster of church secrets (with lots of commentary) was Dennis Erlich, an ex-scientologist. Dennis was raided and sued, and is awaiting trial. His ISP, Tom Klemesrud, refused to cancel Dennis' account, and so was sued, and is awaiting trial. A lady met Klemesrud in a bar, identified herself as an IRS agent, and talked her way into Klemesrud's apartment. She proceeded to remove her clothes and spread blood all over the apartment. She there identified herself as a representative of the Church of Scientology. Klemesrud posted an account of this bizarre affair to alt.religion.scientology, and an anonymous poster "-AB-", using anon.penet.fi, posted a differing version of events. The Church went ballistic over this post, and raided anon.penet.fi to find the identity of -AB-. This turned out to be an alumni account at Cal Tech. The poster has never been heard from again. The raid on anon.penet.fi occurred in Feb. 1995. "Scamizdat" has never used anon.penet.fi, and his (their?) identity is still unknown.

1 0

Re: No matter where you go, there they are.
by rick hoselton 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:04 AM 4/10/96 -0400, Peter Wayner wrote: > >Hmm. Here's an interesting question. Let's say that there are 3 >satellites in view broadcasting signals f1(t), f2(t) and f3(t). >...Okay, so why can't I just tape the signals I get from each of >the three satellites. >Or course, I could be completely missing some neat feature of >DGPS. ... Any thoughts? I have read that GPS uses encryption to place time-dependent, location-dependent inaccuracies into the signals. Innacuracies small enough so they are not a problem for civilian navigation, (mostly) but large enough to prevent GPS from being a useful method of military targeting for anyone who does not hold the keys. Perhaps Ms. Denning is suggesting that the US feral government could act as a "trusted server" (and she has repeatedly suggested such trust) and tell us whether a GPS that "thinks" it's at some location, right now, is REALLY at some known location.

1 0