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Re: legal rqmt for FAX return phone #
by Randy Antler 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Begin forwarded message: > > Date: Fri, 6 May 94 12:38:30 PDT > From: dat(a)ebt.com (David Taffs) > To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com > Subject: legal rqmt for FAX return phone # > Content-Length: 539 > Sender: owner-cypherpunks(a)toad.com > Precedence: bulk > > > I thought I heard somewhere that it was illegal to send > anonymous faxes -- namely, that there was some regulation > that you had to program your FAX machine with your phone > number so it would get sent automagically whenever you > faxed anything. Essentially it was ILLEGAL to fax without > providing the recipient with a mechanism to find out where > it came from. Of course, I suspect enforcement is lax, but > still... :-) :-( > > Can someone please confirm this, or help with a reference? > Private e-mail is fine... > > -- > dat(a)ebt.com (David Taffs) I was _just_ speaking with a few technicians at various FAX management software vendors. A couple of them were saying that identifying the return telephone number on incomings FAXes is highly problematic. There are no established standards regarding the format or presentation of the return FAX number information. Also, some older FAX machines may or may not have the feature at all. I wonder, however, because it seems to me that whenever I've received FAXes in the past (not exactly commonplace) they have always had the return FAX number somewhere at the top of the page. -- randy(a)pilot.com (home address) NeXTMAIL randy(a)nacm.com (work address) Welcome! *Out* and _proud_ of it! (public key on keyservers) ________________________________________________________________________ "We are here! We are here! We are here!" -- Horton and the Who ________________________________________________________________________ GCS(GAT): d--(---/-d+) p-@ c+++@ l u++@ e* m+/++ s/+ n+(---) h(--) f* g+ w++/+++ t++ r(-) y+(*)

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Re: MIT PGP Announcement (fwd) (fwd)
by lassie!jim%lassie＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

FORWARDED MAIL ------- From: netcomsv.netcom.com!access.digex.net!jthomas (Joe Thomas) Date: 06 May 94 Originally To: Jim Nalbandian <netcomsv!lassie!jim%lassie> On the cypherpunks list you excreted: > MIT has just officially announced the upcoming availability of PGP 2.5. > The announcement was just made at Networld+Interop '94 in Las Vegas by > Jeff Schiller, MIT's Network Manager. The text of the actual > announcement is available via WWW at http://www.media.org/. Look under > "MIT PGP Security Announcement." > WHAT WAS WRONG WITH 2.2? Damn programers can never do anything > right the first time? What was wrong with your first fifty brain-damaged rants today? Damn paranoid schizophrenics never know when to quit... Now go away, you're cluttering up our mailboxes. Joe -- * Spelling errors are intentional and international * Jim Nalbandian netcomsv!lassie!jim%lassie(a)netcom.com Tempe, Arizona, USA N7SZS(a)K7BUC.AZ.US.NA No free man shall ever be de-barred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain there right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government. <-------- Thomas Jefferson --

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Re: MIT PGP Announcement (fwd) (fwd)
by lassie!jim%lassie＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

FORWARDED MAIL ------- From: netcomsv.netcom.com!access.digex.net!jthomas (Joe Thomas) Date: 06 May 94 Originally To: Jim Nalbandian <netcomsv!lassie!jim%lassie> On the cypherpunks list you excreted: > MIT has just officially announced the upcoming availability of PGP 2.5. > The announcement was just made at Networld+Interop '94 in Las Vegas by > Jeff Schiller, MIT's Network Manager. The text of the actual > announcement is available via WWW at http://www.media.org/. Look under > "MIT PGP Security Announcement." > WHAT WAS WRONG WITH 2.2? Damn programers can never do anything > right the first time? What was wrong with your first fifty brain-damaged rants today? Damn paranoid schizophrenics never know when to quit... Now go away, you're cluttering up our mailboxes. Joe -- * Spelling errors are intentional and international * Jim Nalbandian netcomsv!lassie!jim%lassie(a)netcom.com Tempe, Arizona, USA N7SZS(a)K7BUC.AZ.US.NA No free man shall ever be de-barred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain there right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government. <-------- Thomas Jefferson --

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Re: MIT PGP Announcement (fwd) (fwd)
by lassie!jim%lassie＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

FORWARDED MAIL ------- From: netcomsv.netcom.com!access.digex.net!jthomas (Joe Thomas) Date: 06 May 94 Originally To: Jim Nalbandian <netcomsv!lassie!jim%lassie> On the cypherpunks list you excreted: > MIT has just officially announced the upcoming availability of PGP 2.5. > The announcement was just made at Networld+Interop '94 in Las Vegas by > Jeff Schiller, MIT's Network Manager. The text of the actual > announcement is available via WWW at http://www.media.org/. Look under > "MIT PGP Security Announcement." > WHAT WAS WRONG WITH 2.2? Damn programers can never do anything > right the first time? What was wrong with your first fifty brain-damaged rants today? Damn paranoid schizophrenics never know when to quit... Now go away, you're cluttering up our mailboxes. Joe -- * Spelling errors are intentional and international * Jim Nalbandian netcomsv!lassie!jim%lassie(a)netcom.com Tempe, Arizona, USA N7SZS(a)K7BUC.AZ.US.NA No free man shall ever be de-barred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain there right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government. <-------- Thomas Jefferson --

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Re: MIT PGP Announcement (fwd) (fwd)
by lassie!jim%lassie＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

FORWARDED MAIL ------- From: netcomsv.netcom.com!access.digex.net!jthomas (Joe Thomas) Date: 06 May 94 Originally To: Jim Nalbandian <netcomsv!lassie!jim%lassie> On the cypherpunks list you excreted: > MIT has just officially announced the upcoming availability of PGP 2.5. > The announcement was just made at Networld+Interop '94 in Las Vegas by > Jeff Schiller, MIT's Network Manager. The text of the actual > announcement is available via WWW at http://www.media.org/. Look under > "MIT PGP Security Announcement." > WHAT WAS WRONG WITH 2.2? Damn programers can never do anything > right the first time? What was wrong with your first fifty brain-damaged rants today? Damn paranoid schizophrenics never know when to quit... Now go away, you're cluttering up our mailboxes. Joe -- * Spelling errors are intentional and international * Jim Nalbandian netcomsv!lassie!jim%lassie(a)netcom.com Tempe, Arizona, USA N7SZS(a)K7BUC.AZ.US.NA No free man shall ever be de-barred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain there right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government. <-------- Thomas Jefferson --

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Reply to Phantom about Magic Money
by nobody＠shell.portal.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- phantom(a)u.washington.edu wrote: >I've been using magic money, the digital cash implementation. I have a >few requests that maybe you could think about. I have seen your posts about the "GhostMark" bank. How is this doing? How many coins have you issued, and how many transactions are you getting? Are you running the transactions by hand, or do you have it automated? >1) any hope for a macintosh version anytime soon? I've had a number of >requests for it... Somebody here (mpd?) had compiled it for the mac. The user interface was still text-based, but they said it worked. >2) it seems possible to write a routine to report on the banks' current >money supply; It'd be useful for me, anyhow. Using the info in elist.dat >and dlist.dat and spent.dat I think it'd be trivial. Is it? Problem there: the spent list doesn't record the value of the coin. Only the number. So you can't pull it out of the spent list. If you want accounting info, you will have to modify the code to write some information to a file as the coins are exchanged. Not too hard to do, but you can't get the data after-the-fact from the spent list. Pr0duct Cypher -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3a iQCVAgUBLcr8gsGoFIWXVYodAQHLmwP/efaYEhjKzYjwRmuXS6wQ+TqTH4IM6lE+ GncYWhdEkiNt9QmGX6/Qyw2WDACdKVowiI+U1u856OxS6+MkriNo/iacBaMxCacr YsSQ0kCj895yvwnq7LtN/6gPeKt2pUOP/EoMvzxOQe7qnBQaaCghlRIXxUZKVdWJ cVpCiXOkOgQ= =N7rp -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Returned Mail
by lassie!jim%lassie＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

FORWARDED MAIL ------- From: netcomsv.netcom.com!u.washington.edu!phantom (Matt Thomlinson) Date: 07 May 94 Originally To: Jim Nalbandian <netcomsv!lassie!jim%lassie> Do just as you did with another list abuser: Detweiler. Feel free to just bounce it back to him. He'll learn that mailbombing is not socially acceptable. I guess we get to start complaining to netcom now, huh? Matt Thomlinson University of Washington, Seattle, Washington. phone: (206) 548-9804 Check my home page -- ftp://ftp.u.washington.edu/public/phantom/home.html PGP 2.2 key available via email, or finger phantom(a)hardy.u.washington.edu -- * Spelling errors are intentional and international * Jim Nalbandian netcomsv!lassie!jim%lassie(a)netcom.com Tempe, Arizona, USA N7SZS(a)K7BUC.AZ.US.NA No free man shall ever be de-barred the use of arms. The strongest reason for the people to retain there right to keep and bear arms is as a last resort to protect themselves against tyranny in government. <-------- Thomas Jefferson --

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Re: i
by lefty＠apple.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Some nobody writes > >should you be interested in congratulating jim nalbandian for his >recent well thought out and highly intellectual contributions to the list >feel free to contact him personally and then treats us to what he purports to be Mr. Nalbandian's phone number and address. While I would be willing to bet that my opinion of Mr. Nalbandian is not the least bit higher than that of anyone else on the list, I can't say I'm much impressed with the dedication to personal privacy manifested by the above-quoted nobody. "Privacy: it's for everybody. Well, everybody I _agree_ with, who hasn't pissed me off too much recently..." Whoever you are, nobody, you're a hypocrite and a coward. As utterly bereft of intelligence, cluefulness and common decency as Mr. Nalbandian is (and make no mistake: he _is_), in my book you are easily ten times worse. At least Mr. Nalbandian is forthright enough to be clueless in such a way that offended parties can respond to him directly. You, on the other hand, are no better than the sort of hapless fuck who writes the phone numbers of women who have refused to go out with him in men's room toilet stalls, an experience with which I imagine you might have more than a passing familiarity. The same goes for anyone who would attempt to _use_ this information. -- Lefty (lefty(a)apple.com) C:.M:.C:., D:.O:.D:.

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Re: Nalbandian's email address
by snyderra＠dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:50 AM 5/7/94 -1000, NetSurfer wrote: >> From:wcs@anchor.ho.att.com >> To: jim%lassie(a)netcom.com, lassie!jim%lassie(a)netcom.com, >> >> I got an interesting bouncegram from Namibia when I tried using >> the N7SZS(a)K7BUC.AZ.US.NA address - it's some sort of Amateur packet radio >> >> Could one of the administrators at Netcom please help him >> put a useable return address in his .signature? > >Aren't radio licenses registered and names associated with them available >by FOIA? The address N7SZS(a)K7BUC.AZ.US.NA is Packet Radio address. Few ways of getting it mail from the internet, in it would be read for violations of FCC rules before it went out anyway. Amateur Radio operator's addresses are available in various callbooks, including a few online. Check the Yandroff(sp?) Services list for addresses. (I'm doing mail offline, or I'd do it and include it with the message), No FOIA is required (although I suspect a FOIA would be honored for it) Bob -- Bob Snyder N2KGO MIME, RIPEM mail accepted snyderra(a)dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu finger for RIPEM public key When cryptography is outlawed, bayl bhgynjf jvyy unir cevinpl.

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Re: iPower card info from NatSemi
by Matt Blaze 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>iPower: The Card That Ate Your Privacy > >I got a "Technology Fact Sheet" on the National Semiconductor iPower >(Tessera) card today. It's pretty grim. They have big plans for this >little monster, which go way beyond just tapping the telephones of a >few Mafiosi. It's too long to key in the whole thing - if you want one, >call them at 1-800-272-9959. They are very helpful. Here are a few >interesting excerpts: My understanding is that NSC plans to release a Tessera version for the federal market and a DES version for the rest of us. This is probably reasonable - the federal (defense message system) Tessera market is pretty big. I don't know if they actually got the federal contract; I seem to recal hearing last week that the DoD contract for Tessera cards went to someone else, but I don't remember who. BTW, I've been playing with a prototype Tessera card for the last couple of weeks; cute little thing. Comments to follow shortly... -matt

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