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17 Dec '03

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Re: House National Security committee guts SAFE, worse than no bill
by Seth Finkelstein 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>>At 2:17 PM -0700 9/9/97, Declan McCullagh wrote: >>It's time for advocates of crypto-freedom to turn obstructionist and >>oppose all legislation dealing with encryption. > From: Jonah Seiger <jseiger(a)cdt.org> > And expect to accomplish what? Freedom from embarrassment? I don't consider the Digital Telephony debacle to have been lived down yet. I certainly don't have a lot of faith that the people who brought us that are going to do any better nowadays. I sense another dirty little deal is in the works, where we're told they didn't "support" it, but "it could have been worse". > To stick our heads in the sand now would just make it easier for the FBI to > roll right over us. We still need to fight the expected FBI key recovery OK. How about telling us how that's going to be done. And at what point will you start calling for megaphones and marches (metaphorically). If the answer is "never", well, I think that settles just how much of a factor you'll be. ================ Seth Finkelstein sethf(a)mit.edu

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Did someone say 'dare'?
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Declan McCullagh wrote: > I was talking to someone after a law class this evening (we're covering > electronic privacy topics, but unfortunately we're not at crypto yet). He > suggested widespread civil disobedience. > Perhaps it's time to dare the Feds to prosecute you. Any volunteers? I took one step back, while Toto and a Well user to be named later just stood there, so it appears to me that they've volunteered. I am hereby daring Lying Fuck Freeh, Nazi Ratbastard Clinton, Child Murderer Reno, and Lying Nazi Cunt FineSwine to prosecute Toto and a Well user to be named later. Munitions-grade crypto has been sent to prohibited countries through two accounts in the last twenty-four hours, one in Canada, one in the U.S. (Hint: sk.sympatico.ca & well.com) (Double Hint: the one sent through the Sympatico account was sent _*before*_ the account was disabled last night while inept system spooks set up new monitoring processes on it.) (Double Extra Hint: the one sent through the Well account was not sent through the account of the person who warned Well security admins about a system intruder shortly *_after_* their wonderful little "we caught the system intruder and installed a newer, more secure system" intro appeared in their new, more secure login process.) (Triple Extra Hint: this message is being cc:'ed to Defcon McCull'em, as well as sent unencrypted through a single remailer, so that tracing its apparent source should not present a major problem.) (Cheap Shot: The Sympatico account is not now working because the admins fixed the problem. It is now working because _I_ fixed the problem.) (Double Cheap Shot: If Well security admins check the warning about their brand-spanking new intruder, which they wrote such a _rude_ reply to, saying that the writer was an idiot, they might notice that the header of the message contains an anagram for their system root password at the time.) (Triple Cheap Shot: Check the Return To: header being used with this originating message.) Please note that I am providing these hints in order that there may be a snowball's chance in hell that those who choose to do further investigation into my wild-eyed claims may be able to proceed without further fucking up the originating systems so badly that I have to spend my own valuable time fixing them. In order to facilitate the federal prosecution of Toto, I have used his writing style, grammer and syntax, complete with too fucking many commas, his normal margins and carriage returns, as well as his too predictable formatting of the quoted portion of the message being replied to. (Also using clues from his previous 'Anonymous' posts.) In order to hinder the federal prosecution of the Well user to be named later, I chose to illegally export the munitions-grade crypto through the account of someone who has an employer with deep pockets, and whose prosecution would undoubtedly result in a great amount of unwanted publicity. (Unwanted, because the government would fail to convict.) In order to piss on the perfectly polished jackboots itching to break down a few doors, I have placed all details of the illegal export of the munitions-grade encryption from Canada and the U.S. in a file on both computers, encrypted with _my_ public key. In order for the file to be read, once deciphered, it must be diff'ed with the file on Toto's personal computer containing the text of the federalist papers. In order to demonstrate the seriousness of this post, if the government schills (<-- note the spelling) who follow the list are too fucking lazy to check into my claims, or too fucking incomptent to confirm them, then I would be more than happy to, in two weeks time, send two futher illegal communications via the same routes, to the CypherPunks (<--sp?) list, upon request by a verifiable government law enforcement agent or agency in a post to the list. Failure of the federal government to take successful action in investigation and prosecution of the illegal activities herein admitted, will be taken as a sign that the Lying Nazi Ratfuckers who comprise the Government and LEA's are weak, spineless pieces of shit who are capable only of using threats and violence to herd meek sheeple into unconstitutional imprisonment of their freedoms, rights, and liberty. i.e. Gutless fucks. ~~~~~ !Toto ~~~~~ "It's !forgery until *I* say it's forgery!" "The Xenix Chainsaw Massacre" http://bureau42.base.org/public/xenix "WebWorld & the Mythical Circle of Eunuchs" http://bureau42.base.org/public/webworld "The Final Frontier" http://www3.sk.sympatico.ca/carljohn

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(no subject)
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Re: The "Vision" Thang, and Tales out of School...
by blanc 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: Tim May :+AD4-Nonetheless, people who didn't share his +ACI-vision+ACI-, like IBM, and DEC, and :+AD4-now Apple, and all the rest of his competition, got their clocks cleaned. : :Utter nonsense. I lack the time to write about the early history of MS, :Seattle Computers, and Gary Kildall, but to make this claim above indicates :Bob is sacrificing objectivity for some sort of cheap shot in favor of MS. : :I used to know Kildall, when he was hanging around Intel in the mid-70s, :and up until two weeks before his death. The situation was a lot more :nuanced than this +ACI-vision of Bill+ACI- argument suggests. .................................................... Sometime when you do have some time for it, I for one would be interested what you mean by this+ADs- what sort of nuances you are referring to. Billg had some skills, some vision, some luck, some advantages of background (his knowledgeable, socially-connected parents), some advantages of circumstance (the developing computer industry), the advantages of intellect (like a photographic memory), and some very good partners (beginning with Paul Allen) who also contributed their business judgments and decisions to the success of the company. He receives most of the attention, but there are many parts to this story. .. Blanc

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Re: Stanford on Sept. 19th (Re: Nuclear Hedge Funds)
by blanc 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: Tim May :I can't promise anything, but I plan to be advancing the cause of crypto :anarchy on the Stanford campus on Friday, September 19th. After that I may :be off the list for a while, as I'm heading north. ....................................................... To nuke Toto? (ah-ha-ha-ha-ha) .. Blanc

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Re: GAK patents, anyone?
by stonedog＠ns1.net-gate.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Tue, 9 Sep 1997, Sean Roach wrote: > At 01:34 AM 9/9/97 +0200, Anonymous wrote: > > >International terrorism as defined in 18 U.S.C. 2331 is > >"activities that > >(A) involve violent acts or acts dangerous to human life > >that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United > >States or of any State, or that would be a criminal > >violation if committed within the jurisdiction of the United > >States or of any State; (B) appear to be intended (i) to > >intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to > >influence the policy of a government by intimidation or > >coercion; or (iii) to affect the conduct of a government by > >assassination or kidnaping." I can't read this paragraph without shaking my head in awe. Even if their motives were for the best, which is certainly debateable, who here _can't_ think of a few incidents where our own government's agencies were involved in _exactly_ these sorts of activities? I realize that I'm not saying anything that hasn't been noted time and again in this forum, but I suppose I'm young enough that this sort of blatant doublespeak just blows my mind. -stonedog

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No Subject
by bureau42 Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Jim Choate wrote: > Let's look at an admittedly contrived example but I believe it will suffice. > There are two fires at opposite ends of the coverage area for a fire house. > On Saturday they receive a call to go to one end, where the wealthy live. > Would you have the owner pay prior to the firemen putting the fire out? > Would they pay some premium beforehand? Now on Sunday a fire occurs on the > other end where the poor are. Assuming they can't pay the bill would the > firemen drive away? If so, wouldn't this in fact pose a threat not only to > the other poor but also the wealthy since the fire might spread if it got > large enough. Would the wealthy then be asked to pay for that run of the > fire truck? What if they refused, how would the firemen pay for the food to > feed their family? Perhaps go out and burn down more rich houses... Contrived? Did you read the post from News of the Weird about the funeral home owners in Bankok(?) who were paying hospital employees to murder patients who were known to them and likely to use their services when they died? (Subject: Oxygen Escrow?) Sadly, no matter what sicko, bizarre scenario you wish to 'contrive' in order to illustrate a point, if your point is valid, then it is likely that you can find a real-life example that runs parallel to it.

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Deadly Argyles [was Miami Vice]
by jordan＠macandco.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>>>> Here's one: http://cnn.com/US/9709/09/briefs.pm/crime.sock.reut/index.html - Jordan <<<< He should have kept them rolled in his pants where they belong! For the browser impaired: [Begin quotation] Police think sock is gun, shoot man September 9, 1997 Web posted at: 7:43 p.m. EDT (2343 GMT) MIAMI (Reuter) -- A Florida man who covered his hand with a sock to work on his car was recovering in the hospital Tuesday after being shot by police who were told he had a gun. Bobby Whipple, 27, had wrapped his hand in a dark sock while working on his car Saturday, prompting at least two people to alert police to a man wielding a gun. After receiving the reports, 14 officers surrounded Whipple and five of them, including one using a shotgun that shoots pellets, opened fire when he did not respond to calls to put his "weapon" down. A spokeswoman at Jackson Memorial Hospital said Whipple was in good condition. "Witnesses said that he had a gun and the officers assumed they were correct ... He took the position of an aggressive stance," said Pat Brickman, a spokesman for the Metro-Dade Police Department. "At this point, we don't have any indication that they acted inappropriately when faced with deadly force." The Miami Herald reported that Whipple's attorney was preparing a civil rights lawsuit against the police department over the shooting. Copyright 1997 Reuters Limited. All rights reserved.

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17 Dec '03

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