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Re: WSJ on "IRS-bashing"
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 04:01 PM 5/29/96 -0700, Rich Graves wrote: >Fascinating. Could you provide citations to these laws so that people in >this plane of reality might take a look at them? Over here, any such law >would be invalidated by R.A.V. v. St. Paul. The only exceptions are >restrictions on "fighting words" that meet the tests in Chaplinsky v. New >Hampshire and "hostile working environment" discrimination, which I assume >is what you're talking about, in some elliptical way. Pittsburgh Press vs Pittsburgh Human Relations Commission (sex specific help wanted advertizing outlawed). Various Fair Housing Laws ("we don't rent to your kind here" punishable by confiscation of property). Civil Rights Act of 1964 (verbal expressions of discrimination in the course of employment, housing, or service in public accommodations punished in numerous ways). Expressions of ill-will towards the President or members of his family punishable as threats in circumstances where similar comments made about anyone else would not be actionable. Note that work is a big part of most people's lives and there are substantial governmental restrictions imposed on speech in the work place with fellow employees and customers. DCF

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Re: Ok, what about PGP (was: MD5 collisions)
by Deranged Mutant 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 30 May 96 at 1:26, Chris Adams wrote: > How about a NSA-stomper option that would use all-of-the-above? For the truly paranoid (or > owners of Pentium-Pro 200Mhz multi-processor machines Chances are that if the algorithms alone aren't "NSA-stompers", an all-of-the-above option won't be. > Also, what's the verdict on IDEA? Is there a switch yet that would allow straight RSA? > (with the obvious speed decrease...) That would actually be less secure. RSA may be PGP's weakest link. Rob. --- No-frills sig. Befriend my mail filter by sending a message with the subject "send help" Key-ID: 5D3F2E99 1996/04/22 wlkngowl(a)unix.asb.com (root@magneto) AB1F4831 1993/05/10 Deranged Mutant <wlkngowl(a)unix.asb.com> Send a message with the subject "send pgp-key" for a copy of my key.

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Re: [Off-Topic] "Curfews"
by jim bell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 07:45 PM 6/1/96 -0700, Timothy C. May wrote: >At 1:59 AM 6/2/96, Duncan Frissell wrote: > >>Of course curfew laws only control the inarticulate and scruffy. Well >>dressed children (coat and tie for the boys dress or suit for the girls) who >>can claim that they are out doing tons of protected things like work and >>school and worship and political campaigning and "trying to save street >>children for Jesus" will not be picked up. They can also say things like > >This, by the way, is the main thing that concerns certain civil rights >groups (including the Santa Cruz chapter of the ACLU). They say they'll be >monitoring enforcement patterns to see if more "children of color" are >picked up than their percentage in the population represents. This, the curfew situation, is yet another of the reasons I'd favor "playing hardball" with the government. I'm very much against discriminatory enforcement, but on the other hand I don't think my liberty should be dependent on getting an organization like the ACLU to look out for and complain against discrimination against me. I feel if a group of left-handed albinos think the police are being too hard on left-handed albinos, they shouldn't have to convince the ACLU of this, and should be entitled and able to fight back effectively and prevent what they view as abuse. True, such a situation may occasionally lead to abuses, but I strongly expect that those abuses will be far fewer than the current system. Jim Bell jimbell(a)pacifier.com

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Re: Java Crypto API questions
by minow＠apple.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Jim Bell writes: >>-- Problem with foreign applet vendors: how can a non-US security >> class vendor certify a class to be used (outside the US). >> Currently, it must be imported and signed by Sun. But, then >> it can't be exported without a Commerce Department license. >> No (current) plans to establish a signing authority outside >> of the U.S. > >We've heard this assertion before. Why not import the software, generate a >detachable signature, and then export the signature for re-attachment overseas? > I suspect (but don't have any direct knowledge) that strong crypto classes are distributed after encryption by Sun's private key. The corresponding public key is enbedded in the Java Class Loader and/or virtual machine (or the security framework class -- I'm only speculating here). This means that "rogue" encryptors can't work under Sun's security manager as they will be rejected as "unloadable" Martin Minow minow(a)apple.com

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Re: [Off-Topic] "Curfews"
by Blake Wehlage 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 05:22 PM 6/2/96 -0400, Alan Horowitz wrote: >I'm more concerned about the other side of the coin. > >The next time there's street riots because a jury decided to think for >itself, will the ACLU be issuing quota guidelines that mandate that all >black arrestees above (percentage-of-population) be given a >"get-out-of-jail-free-for-pulling-a-bystanding-trucker-out-of-his-cab-and >slamming-his-head-with-bricks" card? > > Cool where can I get one of those? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Blake "Pokey" Wehlage Gaa- 3.69 <jwilk(a)iglou.com> Record- 2-4-4 Age- 13 Final Standings- 2nd Place (Beat in Championship) President & Founder: Revolution Software "I have the fastest glove in the east!" Profanity Software "Hackers never stop hacking they just get caught" VSoft My life- Rarely eat or sleep, Hack til' 7:00a, goto school, play goalie til' 5:00p, hack til' 7:00a Hank Aaron- d:-)!-< Pope- +<:-) Santa Claus- *<:-) The Unabrower |:-) Current Girlfriend(s)- Lindsey Wilcox, Laura Schubring ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

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Re: opinions on book "The Truth Machine"
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:14 AM 6/3/96, Adam Back wrote: >Well, we don't have curfews yet, but they're getting keen on security >video cameras lately, the university has a few even, on top of >buildings, the steerable variety, and with what I presume are IR spots >mounted on them. Today's newspaper (SJ Mercury News) carried a long article about increasingly ubiquitous video surveillance cameras, and singled out the U.K. as a place that is leading. Apparently even small villages have 50 or more cameras scattered around...men have been arrested for urinating in bushes outside pubs, caught by the infrared pickups (I hadn't thought about the cameras being IR, but this makes sense, as a large fraction of street crimes take place in dark or semidark areas). The article claimed that the cameras and microphones are the latest in surveillance technology, provided by the U.K. defense establishment. Privacy advocates gave comments--they were predictably quite worried. The links with crypto policy are of course apparent. --Winston Smith Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: Lack of PGP signatures
by frantz＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:15 PM 7/3/96 -0700, Bill Frantz wrote: >On my Mac I just entered this answer, cut it to the clipboard, launched >PGP, clearsigned it, and pasted the result back into the Eudora window for >the new mail. But of course the signature doesn't check. (I suspect Eudora line wrapping.) >Pretty Good Privacy(tm) 2.6 - Public-key encryption for the masses. >(c) 1990-1994 Philip Zimmermann, Phil's Pretty Good Software. 9 Jun 94 >Distributed by the Massachusetts Institute of Technology. Uses RSAREF. >Export of this software may be restricted by the U.S. government. >Current time: 1996/07/03 21:04 GMT >pgp PGPTmpClipboardFile.tmp > >File has signature. Public key is required to check signature. . >WARNING: Bad signature, doesn't match file contents! > >Bad signature from user "Bill Frantz <frantz(a)netcom.com>". >Signature made 1996/07/03 17:48 GMT > >Plaintext filename: PGPTmpClipboardFile ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Bill Frantz | The Internet may fairly be | Periwinkle -- Consulting (408)356-8506 | regarded as a never-ending | 16345 Englewood Ave. frantz(a)netcom.com | worldwide conversation. | Los Gatos, CA 95032, USA

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Re: Computer-Aided Revolution
by Lou Zirko 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- To: jimbell(a)pacifier.com, cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Wed Jul 03 18:24:47 1996 You could have all 1000 sync with the same time server. There are plenty of standard time servers available on the net and timer daemons are available for most platforms. Lou Zirko > I've thought of an application for a "revolutionary" program for > peaceful > protest, but one that requires that a substantial number (1000) of > people > have access to computer time synchronized to 1 second, ideally 0.1 > second. > How good would a time sync over the net typically be? > > Jim Bell > jimbell(a)pacifier.com > > Lou Zirko (502)383-2175 Zystems lzirko(a)c2.org "We're all bozos on this bus" - Nick Danger, Third Eye -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: latin1 iQEVAwUBMdsBT8tPRTNbb5z9AQFtmQf/bSl4oZ/TGz9jzPcEk6pCrJISQrIkpwc4 3ycIuRTkAk71BxyWllpquaFvc4LYxSha1KgjF4WKLE8luVEhLYNiK+MZxUQmd6Sn 26eagt3r470dppK6w6Ahzf8Nrm6SwYO7J0xHAxh5j/dDkvtGm9S5s+c4cgzbyvzR fOmz48UJYfcnQ5TmllOmqDHQ2YTbLcgBDZmG154KeSx/9AaU8hOw2WpWsCZAhVY5 By06kqTm12JBt1ERE63juPgf9AQpOY7ssGLRfTNttlZayd/UeTDmB0coD3rJnM1R egbl7hdoqNmkic9SMHF7TS5p+pq4WphGkxUqmvyI9wBy2YC+Luqgnw== =t8a2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: CWD -- Jacking in from the "Keys to the Kingdom" Port
by Deranged Mutant 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 3 Jul 96 at 18:58, Mark M. wrote: [..] > If the child is creative enough, he will be able to boot DOS from a bootdisk > and remove the line from config.sys that starts up the filtering software. Who bother using a boot disk. Remove it from the config.sys and then reboot. --- No-frills sig. Befriend my mail filter by sending a message with the subject "send help" Key-ID: 5D3F2E99 1996/04/22 wlkngowl(a)unix.asb.com (root@magneto) AB1F4831 1993/05/10 Deranged Mutant <wlkngowl(a)unix.asb.com> Send a message with the subject "send pgp-key" for a copy of my key.

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Wanted: NNTP posting access for remailers
by lcs Remailer Administrator 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Would anyone out there be willing to give NNTP posting or transfer privileges to anon.lcs.mit.edu? Because of recent spams through mail2news(a)anon.lcs.mit.edu, I may loose my news posting privileges to the news server I have been using. Though I try to resolve all complaints I receive, other complaints have been sent to other postmasters in the domain, who don't seem to want to hear about these problems. If you run a news server and would like to help people posting anonymous messages, please consider allowing posts from mail2news(a)anon.lcs.mit.edu. Ideally you would also be in a position to receive mail at some of the relevant postmaster aliases in your domain, and would not mind forwarding misdirected complaints to me so that I can deal with them. Alternatively, if you are willing to give me "IHAVE" priviliges, I can possibly set things up with an initial "Path:" header that guarantees most complaints will go directly to me. Thanks, - -mix-admin(a)anon.lcs.mit.edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 Comment: Processed by Mailcrypt 3.4, an Emacs/PGP interface iQCVAwUBMdsT70TBtHVi58fRAQHQ0QP/U3Jn7sL9+k3aUr+qw4WdDxef/lIeu3xO BwdO8zlNPavJgbxuunR81n011jGy80l7qnc+DpvtuEEQqszLMcMO/4zHw/VfVOY8 08nxE8+IkF/FE66vJdnU7O3I1mIjtbF8ixcm9FOwqoehSLJB40tXy6wu6KV663TQ fmy/Gz5XDe8= =Gp4D -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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