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Re: anon.penet.fi: URGENT REQUEST
by James A. Donald 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 03:09 PM 9/1/96 +0000, paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk wrote: > I don`t know what the response to this will be, I need approximately > 5000 UK pounds to set up such an operation (Yes, a leased line really > does cost that much in the UK) and then a monthly income of around > 3000 UK pounds. A little greedy. Other people have set up a multitude of remailers for substantially less. We now need remailers, preferably many, many small remailers rather than one big remailer, that is as easy to reply to as alt.penet.fi, but which gives substantially better security, that is to say the reply address can map to a remailer chain, instead of being constrained to map to a regular address as the penet.fi remailer did. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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PLEASE Nuke Singapore Back into the Stone Age
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 11:06 PM 9/1/96, James Seng wrote: >To understand the sitution better, you should not impose America >idealogy and perspection on how things to be done to Singapore. Singapore >maybe young but there are certain culture too. Who says this has anything to do with "American ideology"? The Usenet is propagated around the world. All we are saying is that honest commentary on the corruption of Lee Kwan Yew (and his billion dollars in Australian and European banks) will be reported on the Usenet. This is not "imposing American ideology" on anyone. Singapore, being the dynastic dictatorship that it is, may decide to block access all newsgroups which discuss Yew's tyranny, or pornography, or pro-Malay sentiment, or anything else banned in the Benevolent Republic of Singapore. This will be their choice, to ban access by citizen-units to Evil Thoughts. It is not an issue of "imposing American ideology" on the helpless in Singapore, any more than a book or magazine is "imposing" an ideology. It sounds to me, James, that you need to get out of Singapore and visit a country where free speech and free ability to read material is not treated as "imposed foreign ideologies." (I think you also need to look up what "imposed" means. The "Wired" magazine banned in Singapore is not something that is ever "imposed" on others....anyone is free to simply not read the magazine!) >is Singapore. As an example of what i mean, few years back, when they >introduced R rating movies uncensored in Singapore for people above 18, >it cause a surge in soft-porn movie to be screened. There is a general So? Your point being? After all, nobody is forcing _you_ to go watch these R-rated movies. You are free to not watch if you find them offensive. In a free society this is how things work. I think you'll find this mailing list anathema to your apparent ideology. ... >Singapore culture. Do not impose the general idealogy and culture within >your country into your argument. (Oh yea, dont give me the "Bull shit! ... >Now, what makes you think that citizen of Country A has the power or >rights to tell politicians of Country B what to do and what they cannot do? >Just wondering. Again, you really need to look up the meaning of "impose" more carefully. By posting a comment about how Singapore sucks, or how Lee Kwan Yew raped his country and deposited his profits in Australian and European banks, just what am I "imposing" on Singaporans or anyone else? I think you have little understanding of how the global Internet works. --Tim May We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: Code Review Guidelines (draft)
by qut＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

! Dave Harman OBC wrote: ! > ! > ! At 09:58 AM 8/29/96 -0500, Igor wrote: ! > ! >The decision that have just made is not a technical decision, it is ! > ! >a business decision. You just decided that the needs of security ! > ! >outweight the need to be able to deal with 100% of potential customers. ! > ! ! > ! I strongly agree. You've also potentially annoyed a bunch of Europeans, ! > ! Unicode-speakers, and other users of non-ASCII alphabets. ! > ! Just because the domain name in somebody's address is case-insensitive ! > ! (and culturally-insensitive :-) ASCII, that doesn't mean their user ! > ! name will be also, especially if their _real_ mail system is some ! > ! ugly proprietary thing like Microso-Cc:PR0FS-HS.400 or if their ! > ! name is Swedish or Chinese. ! > ! > Agreed, the DNS and other systems should be upgraded to 8bit. ! > Unix should also allow / in file names, it can be escaped somehow. ! ! It is not possible. Oh, every value can be escaped, there's no reason that the full 8bit range cannot be incorporated throughout every operating system. It's just legacy junk which keeps us putting up restrictions in everything that we really don't want. Ditto for network software.

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RE: Desubscribe
by paul＠fatmans.demon.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Whoever uses the term "spam" in derogatory manner, opposes free > speech and deserves to be caned. Whoever uses the term "spam" in a non-derogratory manor is an arsehole and deserves to be shipped to sweden where they shall be made into cheese by nuns. Datacomms Technologies web authoring and data security Paul Bradley, Paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Http://www.fatmans.demon.co.uk/crypt/ "Don`t forget to mount a scratch monkey" -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.6 mQCNAjH9j+cAAAEEAMBvREiQR0ot9dFCO0TiSCSunAYLv2g1Bc6I3bz8FzKXNH53 6mieJf/W4rD+CxJpT0q9RQaaoRtkHJLwbjfK2il3D7mEahMAyqvF/xRJNqkXfhM3 sRJM0Jh43l+W0M5vwokbEbk25/bxWWGspTsLD3YHbzKnG6pOcL5OPIRbv66xAAUR tCdQYXVsIEJyYWRsZXkgPHBhdWxAZmF0bWFucy5kZW1vbi5jby51az4= =riHc -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK-----

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Re: Los Angeles Times article on Helsingius and anon.penet.fi
by Adamsc＠io-online.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sat, 31 Aug 1996 14:54:37 -0700, Lance Cottrell wrote: >>Note Esther Dyson's comments: >> "The damage that can be done by anonymity is far bigger" than in >> any other medium, said Esther Dyson, chairwoman of the Electronic >> Frontier Foundation. "In the end, you need to be able to get at >> somebody's identity to enforce accountability, and the question is how >> do you also enforce freedom of speech and freedom from prosecution for >> unpopular opinions." <SNIP> >Is this the official EFF position on remailers? This strong anti-remailer >position needs to be retracted or widely publicized. I doubt they'd publicize it; it'd probably cost them a *lot* of supporters. - "'Anonymity is bad,' says a source who wishes to remain anonymous." - Nuff' said. * Home: Chris Adams <adamsc(a)io-online.com> | http://www.io-online.com/adamsc/adamsc.htp * Autoresponder: send email w/subject of "send resume" or "send PGPKEY" * Work: cadams(a)acucobol.com | V.M. (619)515-4894 | (619)689-6579 * Member in good standing of the GNU whirled hors d'oeuvre

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Re: WARNING vIRuS!
by Adamsc＠io-online.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sat, 31 Aug 1996 11:21:05 -0500, kickboxer wrote: > There is a new and VERY dangerous virus called the HAZ-MAT virus! >it fucks up the sectors on your hd, and really messes up the partition >tables. It does this once a week, picking a random time to do it. 99.9% of >virus scanners and other antivirus programs will not recognize it, for it is >a totally new strain, using a never before seen code.... Be warned! The >HAZ-MAT virus usually resides in JPG, and GIF files... once the files are >viewed, the virus takes effect. >scan all images upon download! As soon as you said that, it's obvious it's a hoax. The first law of computer viruses: You have to run a program to get one. JPG and GIF files are *never* executed. There is no possible way for you to get a virus from one. - "'Anonymity is bad,' says a source who wishes to remain anonymous." - Nuff' said. * Home: Chris Adams <adamsc(a)io-online.com> | http://www.io-online.com/adamsc/adamsc.htp * Autoresponder: send email w/subject of "send resume" or "send PGPKEY" * Work: cadams(a)acucobol.com | V.M. (619)515-4894 | (619)689-6579 * Member in good standing of the GNU whirled hors d'oeuvre

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BOM_ban
by jya＠pipeline.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Thanks to DL for noting this report. 8-31-96. WaPo: "New Airport Bomb Plan Considered. Computer Profiles, High-Tech Detectors Central to System" A presidential commission on aviation security is considering a bomb detection plan that would require U.S. airlines to scrutinize all passengers at U.S. airports using massive computer files to identify potential terrorists or other suspicious individuals. The plan would require creation of a computer profiling system that would examine passengers' bill-paying records, flying habits and much other data to determine which checked baggage should undergo examination by sophisticated explosives detection equipment. Numerous legal issues still need to be resolved, including thorny civil liberties questions such as whether the airlines would be given access to information from government computer systems like those containing criminal records. Would the airlines store information on individuals? Would they go out and seek information from credit bureaus and other private sources? ----- http://jya.com/bomban.txt (10 kb) via anonymizer BOM_ban

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SNAKEOIL? Top Secret for Windows
by frogfarm＠yakko.cs.wmich.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>From: sk510019(a)mail.idt.net (Siva Krishna) Newsgroups: comp.archives.ms-windows.announce Subject: tsecret.zip - TOPSECRET!: Easily encrypts any file. Message-ID: <9608312039.cg4898(a)Simtel.Net> Date: Sat, 31 Aug 1996 20:39:29 GMT I have uploaded to Simtel.Net: http://www.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/win3/security/tsecret.zip ftp://ftp.simtel.net/pub/simtelnet/win3/security/tsecret.zip 12070 bytes tsecret.zip TOPSECRET!: Easily encrypts any file TOPSECRET is a program to encrypt your sensitive files. This program does not use the RSA standard (which is restricted for export). This program uses the aid of a "Catalyst" file (which can be any file) to encrypt another file (any file). The Catalyst acts as a key to code and decode your sensitive files. Of course you can even make your own catalyst by encrypting one file with another. A periodically changing Catalyst can be made by combining 1-Registered mail file 2-Courier file 3-Last message file; This would ensure high security for the transmission of your sensitive files.I am sure you will come up with your own methods. Shareware. Uploaded by the author. Siva Krishna sk510019(a)mail.idt.net -- http://yakko.cs.wmich.edu/~frogfarm ...for the best in unapproved information EmmaGoldmanCamillePagliaMarieCurieAynRandSapphoDianaToriAmosPJHarvey&Demona All generalizations are false, with the exception of this one I feel a groove comin' on | $ | Freedom...yeah, right.

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Re: Esther Dyson on Remailers
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 06:52 AM 9/1/96 -0400, Dave Farber wrote: >EFF does not, to my knowledge, (and I am a Board Member) have an >organizational view on this issue. There are a lot of different views and >each member of EFF has their own view that they can and will state as >private people. The tendency of the Press to label people with organizations >affiliation ship gives the impression of organizational views. For example I >certainly don't speak for the University of Pennsylvania when I say thing to >the newspapers. > >Dave > At CFP in '95 in SF, Esther expressed the view that there was a place on the Net for an anonymous ghetto (my words not hers) where people could be anonymous but that most of the net would involve traceability of transactions so that people could be held accountable and that businesses and individuals would want to know who they were dealing with for payment and accountability reasons. I am not stating her position well I'm sure but it was clear that she thought that non-anonymity would be the rule not because it was mandated but just because Net actors would want it that way. A short quote would not allow anyone to understand her full position. If she believes that anonymity would be rejected voluntarily for practical reasons then that is just a prediction of a market not a conclusion. Most on this list would have no objection to making a prediction though we might disagree with it. Just as Esther predicted that the net would end copyright, we might predict that the net combined with immediate settlement payment systems might reduce if not eliminate the need for "positive ID." DCF

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Mailings lists looping
by bf578＠scn.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The current issue of the RISKS digest has a couple of submissions about this issue (incluing one from Brent Chapman, majordomoman) It can be found at: http://catless.ncl.ac.uk/Risks/18.39.html -- ------------------------------------------ There are no facts, only interpretations. I always wanted to be somebody,

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