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testing new Home Web site
by Phiberelic Phreaker 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

try this site and tell me how you like it if you dont like it then message Mr.Angry on that page PhReAkInG iS a ViOlEnT pOiSoN. iT cAnNoT Be ApPlIeD eXtErNaLlY tO aNiMaL oR hUmAn TiSsUe WiThOuT sErIoUs InJuRiOuS rEsUlTs. It CaNnOt Be TaKeN iNtErNaLlY wItHoUt InDuCiNg VoMiTtInG, bLiNdNeSs, AnD GeNeRaL pHySiCaLlY uLtImAtElLy ReSuLtInG iN dEaTh. PhReAk ThE pLaNeT--http://www.angelfire.com/ne/PhreakThePlanet/index.html PhIbErDeLiC PhReAkEr

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Re: The Good dr. Dobbs
by eva bozoki 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

John Fricker <jfricker(a)vertexgroup.com wrote: > It would appear that Ms. Bozoki would not purchase the product sheis creating! > In order to establish trust in an encryption product more is required than > simply agreeing that the company is competent. Competence does not imply > trustworthiness. Trust can be established through review and examination of > the innards, algo's and source code. A quick read of www.dsnt.com does not > reveal any additional information on the crypto used (other than it being > 512 byte public key algo using Diffie-Hellman key exchange) I would like to point out that our white paper with technical details can be found on our Web-site: www.dsnt.com/whitepaper.htm -- Dr. Eva Bozoki Chief Scientist DSN Technology, Inc. (516)467-0400

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testing new Home Web site
by Phiberelic Phreaker 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

try this site and tell me how you like it if you dont like it then message Mr.Angry on that page PhReAkInG iS a ViOlEnT pOiSoN. iT cAnNoT Be ApPlIeD eXtErNaLlY tO aNiMaL oR hUmAn TiSsUe WiThOuT sErIoUs InJuRiOuS rEsUlTs. It CaNnOt Be TaKeN iNtErNaLlY wItHoUt InDuCiNg VoMiTtInG, bLiNdNeSs, AnD GeNeRaL pHySiCaLlY uLtImAtElLy ReSuLtInG iN dEaTh. PhReAk ThE pLaNeT--http://www.angelfire.com/ne/PhreakThePlanet/index.html PhIbErDeLiC PhReAkEr

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RE: Modulating the FM noise spectrum considered infeasible
by James A. Tunnicliffe 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> [...]Having said this, Johnson noise makes a superior noise source, > if a physical source is desired. > > --Tim May Yours makes NOISE? Impressive... In this case, I guess entropy is preferable to atrophy, though. :-) Tunny ====================================================================== James A. Tunnicliffe | WWWeb: http://www.inference.com/~tunny Inference Corporation | PGP Fingerprint: CA 23 E2 F3 AC 2D 0C 77 tunny(a)Inference.com | 36 07 D9 33 3D 32 53 9C ======================================================================

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DES/IDEA In Linux loopback devices...
by The Deviant 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Does anybody know where the archive for this kernel patch is? --Deviant PGP KeyID = E820F015 Fingerprint = 3D6AAB628E3DFAA9 F7D35736ABC56D39 "If you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, however improbable, must be true." -- Spock -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBMqOj+zCdEh3oIPAVAQF50gf+OA4aDrXpFSTUcpeHRzJC0xIu+TsOi7NI w0qWAK6V9c7olJLqzvUwPt1JkvsihSr8z12JUtGrRjuYUW+Zq4rueX1iwmPmt0EZ HUTZ1Ky6j0L/Ewn5YDjL6QV++zZuLNCCqVXkMee0ezrwi4GwyMMB1cKfbsnkprzu 2oQyDcEJvFXmkEKFv+u54DDB9viOEyBfVJoEHZtzaFrVFtf/QqY9KEY8JuJC6s67 FK4i5ltS4vzCu2cL4EmmWyJDvhPycdOBksU+yrPci4vB1PFzlQJ9I+Vz8Pr/fY6m BwLDu2Ptd9ZfOG51oSI4MaUxeD/Suxt9hPFVe5aU7xCMQ8f5UUbGtA== =R2Xk -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Logos here
by LOGOS 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sovereign collegues, I am Logos. I have adopted this pseudonym to conceal my 'true name'. I want the ideas which I shall be espousing to stand or fall on their own merits and not on the basis of biases that my name, sex, ethnicity, etc. might otherwise elicit. I hope my contributions to this list will be seen as positive by most list members. I intend to limit my postings to only two meta-topics: decorum and logic. In other words, the way we speak to each other and the quality of our argumentation. Decorum From time to time, I will 'call' posters on their intemperate use of rude or provocative language. I believe Cypherpunks should be a market place of ideas, not a forum for egos and insults. The two houses of the American congress have adopted rules of decorum. Members may be censored or expelled for personal attacks and verbal abuse of other members. This was mandated for a very practical reason. It was realized that insults, profanity, 'fighting words', etc. could get so out of hand that they could interfer with the legitimate work of the congress. While some might say that in the case of the congress, this would be a good thing, I believe in the case of Cypherpunks, it is a bad thing. I, therefore, call upon each Cypherpunk list members to personally adopt such a code of conduct for themselves. If Democrats can refer to Representative Gingrich as 'my esteemed collegue' and Republicans can talk about the 'honorable' Ted Kennedy, I see no reason that we cannot treat Tim May and Dimitry Vilus with similar respect and courtesy. What is at stake is far more important than egos. Cypherpunks defeated Clipper, but of late they have only defeated themselves. Logic The average reader of this list has sufficient education and intelligent to understand the most informal logical falacies. Yet one sees such falacies committed here with disapointing regularity. I will post definitions of the most common falacies and will use examples found on this list as illustrations. If we are to be persuasive among ourselves and with others, we need to be rigorous in our thought processes. I would be honored to hear your thoughts on this post. Logos out.

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testing new Home Web site
by Phiberelic Phreaker 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

try this site and tell me how you like it if you dont like it then message Mr.Angry on that page PhReAkInG iS a ViOlEnT pOiSoN. iT cAnNoT Be ApPlIeD eXtErNaLlY tO aNiMaL oR hUmAn TiSsUe WiThOuT sErIoUs InJuRiOuS rEsUlTs. It CaNnOt Be TaKeN iNtErNaLlY wItHoUt InDuCiNg VoMiTtInG, bLiNdNeSs, AnD GeNeRaL pHySiCaLlY uLtImAtElLy ReSuLtInG iN dEaTh. PhReAk ThE pLaNeT--http://www.angelfire.com/ne/PhreakThePlanet/index.html PhIbErDeLiC PhReAkEr

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[IMPORTANT NOTICE] Mercenne primes
by nobody＠cypherpunks.ca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tim May studied yoga back-streching exercises for five years so he could blow himself (nobody else will). ' ' ' ' ^-O-O-^ -ooO--U--Ooo- Tim May

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Modulating the FM noise spectrum considered infeasible
by Timothy C. May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:30 PM +0100 11/29/96, Pavel Korensky wrote: >paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk wrote: >> >> I`m not entirely sure about the possibility of correlations in any of >> these sources but they aren`t really a good idea because all can be >> accessed by someone else. eg. Steal your random noise audio tape, >> sample dolby decoded sound at the same time as you etc. > >And what if I will use FM receiver, tuned on some channel where is the noise. >If the potentional attacker don't know the what channel was tuned, he is not >able to reproduce this IMHO. Of course, maybe it is possible to record the >whole >spectrum to tapes, but I think that the noise will change when recorded and >played back from tape. Not to mention the point that an external attacker--say, the NSA van parked across the street--will under no circumstances be able to measure "the" spectrum: his antennas cannot possibly measure the signals (at the lower bits) seen by the FM receiver, noise source local to the computer, whatever. (Obviously other SIGINT/TEMPEST methods might be able to read the bits in other ways, but this is a different issue. Ditto for black bag cryptanalysis, which is usually the most cost-effective approach.) Likewise, feeding the FM antennas with "special hiss" is implausible in the extreme. Again, the attackers don't know antenna responses, atmospheric and room geometry variations, etc. Even if the FM hiss were to be somewhat biased, the LSBs would have a fair amount of entropy....collecting and distilling this entropy would still be trivial. Yes, this is all obvious stuff. But it keeps coming up. Not even the NSA has the super powers to modulate the FM noise spectrum in a cost-effective way. Having said this, Johnson noise makes a superior noise source, if a physical source is desired. --Tim May Just say "No" to "Big Brother Inside" We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1398269 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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(no subject)
by Javier Rivera 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

unsuscribe cypherpunks

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