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RE: The Bible Code
by Chris DiBona 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hello again... I see this sort of thing as being like when people see jesus in a bar of saop and charge a buck to the suckers who come to see it. Okay... here's the EMAIL code. I you read the following message: On Saturday, May 31, 1997 12:10 PM, Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM [SMTP:dlv@bwalk.dm.com] wrote: > lucifer(a)dhp.com (lucifer Anonymous Remailer) writes: > > I will shortly be releasing my new book, "The ASCII Code" which > > outlines the predictions made based on decrypting the hidden > > messages in the ASCII artwork sent to the cypherpunks list. > > > > Since none of the predictions have proven accurate, my book > > speculates that perhaps Tim May isn't a cocksucker, after all. > > But John Gilmore is surely a cocksucker. > > I've met Rips, who's supposedly behind this "bible code" nonsense. > He's an asshole, and I dismiss anything he says as total bullshit. > > --- > > Dr.Dimitri Vulis KOTM > Brighton Beach Boardwalk BBS, Forest Hills, N.Y.: +1-718-261-2013, 14.4Kbps > and put it though a filter using the "bible code" method.. you get : stupid dorks will buy this book. >From characters : 3,5,6,.... you get the point. Suckers. Chris DiBona

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Re: Rotenberg as the Uber Enemy
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Lucky's right on Bell's undue incarceration. There's more to the story than tax avoidance. Declan perhaps should look beyond the government's citations of law to examine the other allegations of intent to harm federal officials which did not receive substantiating cites. The affidavit which prompted Jim's arrest was a potpourri of disingenuous spleen and bile and unintentional humor. This appears to be another instance of the USG patchworking public menace and phlegm (the Kallstrom syndrome) when it's in its self-preservative and -promotional interest to do so. As Tim and cie often note, the syndrome's fountainhead is DC and world centers of ambitious regulators, enforcers and promoters for "public security." Which is fast replacing national security, via dual-use sleight of hand, as a career trajectory. Counterterrorism is the fastest growing governmental subculture at the moment, and no longer aimed overseas. Secret laws, courts and committees are burgeoning, anticipating that the public cannot be trusted to protect itself against the enemy within, ahem, the Beltway.

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Economist on Net.Auctions
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 00:04:02 -0700 To: dcsb(a)ai.mit.edu Subject: Economist on Net.Auctions From: nobody(a)huge.cajones.com (Huge Cajones Remailer) Comments: Please report misuse of this automated remailing service to <remailer-admin(a)cajones.com> Sender: bounce-dcsb(a)ai.mit.edu Precedence: bulk Reply-To: nobody(a)huge.cajones.com (Huge Cajones Remailer) no earth-shattering revelations, but tuesday's audience should do their class reading for the pop quiz.. Going, going . . . THE Internet may have been the playground of the geeks for the past few decades, but its future belongs to an even more child-like tribe: economists. The network is becoming the ideal marketplace, where legions of buyers and sellers, both armed to the teeth with relevant information, can set prices as efficiently as any trading floor. As a result, market theories that have long been confined to business-school computer simulations can now have their day of reckoning as real people exchange real goods and money on-line. Nowhere is this better seen than with the economists' favourite sort of market: auctions. More than 150 auction sites are now open on the Web, selling everything from industrial machinery to rare stamps. Airlines such as Cathay Pacific and American have auctioned spare seats on their Web sites. AuctionWeb, which is a mixture of a classified-ad service and an auction room for people selling everything from rare Barbie dolls to barbecue grills, conducted 330,000 auctions on-line in the first quarter of this year alone. Onsale, the largest on-line auction service and one of the few profitable ones, sells $6m worth of computer equipment and electronic goods a month. Last month it became the first on-line auction firm to hit the stockmarket, going public at a valuation of nearly $100m. The Internet's chief advantage for auctioneers is the size of its audience. Its global reach brings a critical mass of buyers and sellers to the most popular auction sites, avoiding the problem of insufficient trading that bedevils many of their cousins in the physical world. Indeed, quick, easy virtual auctions carry a hint of the sort of hyper-efficient capitalism that Internet fans have long been promised. read the rest at http://www.economist.com/issue/31-05-97/wb8772.html For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "dcsb-request(a)ai.mit.edu" with one line of text: "help". --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/

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Curl up and dye
by Shift Control 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This week, in the Hair issue of Shift Control... "To be fair, I've never left a hairdresser's happy. In fact, I don't know anyone who hasn't fled from a hairdresser's in search of the nearest reflective surface (I chose the window of an Iranian rug importer on Piccadilly) to try and rub away the salon-induced feeling of idiocy. But on this day I was particularly woeful. The haircut was nothing a five-year-old boy would have been ashamed of. But I'm a bit older than that. My own mother, who I saw later that day for the first time in two years, said I looked like a 'dork'." - Paul Robinson on getting a high-class haircut. "'And the new world champion for imperial whiskers is... Jurgen Burkhardt!' When it dawned on the short German dressed in the Kaiser outfit that he'd won his event, the loops at either end of his huge moustache began to twitch maniacally. The dimensions of the new world champion's imperial growth were staggering. From left to right, including the loops, it

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CyberTects/SSZ status (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: >From ravage(a)ssz.com Sun Jun 1 22:33:10 1997 From: Jim Choate <ravage(a)ssz.com> Message-Id: <199706020333.WAA10315(a)einstein.ssz.com> Subject: CyberTects/SSZ status To: users(a)einstein.ssz.com Date: Sun, 1 Jun 1997 22:33:08 -0500 (CDT) Cc: consulting(a)einstein.ssz.com, pwright(a)einstein.ssz.com, toddm(a)tivoli.com X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL23] Content-Type: text Content-Length: 2928 Hi, We had our business planning meeting tonite and the following was dediced: * CyberTects will be no more by the end of the week. In its place is a new Commercial Web Service firm called (tadah).. The Armadillo Group There will be specific instructions in a day or so about where to send your payments for outstanding service bills. * Update of service fee's: Monthly webpage $25.00 Customer Server Hosting, monthly $100.00 SLIP/PPP, dial-in, monthly $20.00 SLIP/PPP, dedicated, monthly, 1 IP $100.00 IP Sets, 10 IP's (initial 1 & 9 more), annual $100.00 Shell access, w/ other account only $10.00 Labor charges, hourly, rounded up $80.00 Sales Tax NOT included, 8.25% in Texas * We will be focusing on a limited set of services: - expansion of services provided outside the SOHO sector into the general business community. - various flavors of dial-in and dedicated connectivity options including a move to ISDN availablity with the increase in our primary feed to the Internet. - webpage hosting w/ in-house development as required by the customer. - hosting of customers servers in-house providing a level of technical support previously available only to large firms. * The current Real/Time ISDN contract expires at the end of September. At this point we plan to have either a T1 or ADSL in place with additional servers. * It looks like the current plan is to NOT have onsite service, training, and other services available through CyberTects in the past propogate through this change over. There will be a clearer mailing later in the week better detailing exactly what will be available and what we will be dropping. Note: Even if the firm as a whole ceases to host mailing lists I will continue to host them using my own resources. I will continue to do some onsite service and such on my own. * The future of the Elgin site expansion to fully mirror SSZ and provide 100% backup may not be implimented because of the drop of other services. I have not decided if this will be something that I take on personaly if it is dropped. If you have any further questions or would like to express your views on these changes, please don't send email to me. Instead send it to 'consulting(a)ssz.com' so that the whole group may discuss the issues. Our goal as always is to provide you with professional service & support. Jim Choate The Armadillo Group ravage(a)ssz.com

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How much you lose under Social Security -- socialsecurity.org
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 30 May 1997 10:59:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Declan McCullagh <declan(a)well.com> To: fight-censorship-announce(a)vorlon.mit.edu Subject: How much you lose under Social Security -- socialsecurity.org I'm over at the National Press Club now, just came from a Cato Institute press conference unveiling their socialsecurity.org web site. It lets you calculate your retirement income and compare how much you'd get from the Federal government's Social Security "fund" compared with a private system like a 401(k). And it's fun to play with. Let's say I was born in 1970 and make $30,000 a year (BTW, I wasn't and don't). Assuming I retire at 67 and inflation is 3 percent, Social Security would give me $1,293 a month after I retire. And that's if you assume Social Security won't go belly-up, a hard position to maintain since its own trustees say it's underfunded by 25 to 33 percent. Compare that to a stock fund, which yields so much more: $8,635 a month. I can't think of a better argument to privatize Social Security and move to a system like an IRA or 401(k), a solution the Cato folks have advocated for years. Before the big government folks out there criticize Cato's calculator for being biased, let me point out KPMG Peat Marwick did all calculations and programming. -Declan

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Re: not a flame please read and think about this
by anon-remailer＠utopia.hacktic.nl 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

i know this is unpopular but i wish someone would respond the the points rather than flaming me. pat farrel is the only one of you with the balz to try to defend himself insead of attacking me. and you attack me for being anon. i love it. cypherpunks yea right. more of the indefensible. ive been keeping a list: janet renos cypherpunk heros: wei dai patents algorithms - for microsoft!!!!. that should fucking help us a lot. whos he gonna sue first? hey i think ill patent xor!!!! and give the patent to the nsa!!! according to sci.crypt mat blaze can prove that clipper has no back door. right. that sure helps us. david sternlights new hero. pat farrel signs up with the nsa to make the key escrow rules easier for us morons to understand. hey thanks. maybe theyll give you a nicer room in the concentration kamp. a whole shitload of socalled cypherpunks jumping over each other to help and defend him. brian davis trys to convinice us that key escrow isnt so bad (who signs your paycheck davie?????) that guy from rand corp tells us words of wisdom from robert morris the nsa guy as if we should write them down and pray three times a day to them. carl elison designs key escrow for tis and acts like hes one of us. bruce schneier is copyrighting crypt programs and threatining to sue people who use it. even phil zimmerman is selling the rights to pgp. what about all the people who contributed code (like me). not a dime for us because phil is famous and your not alowed to say anythingn bad about him. sorry i forgot phil is god. no one dares to complain. ask phil about me and when i asked about sharing profits from the code i conrtibuted. also about the deal with r.f... by the way i am not the anonymous-remailer(a)shell.portal.com person who toold farel to shut up. that was someone else. i dont think anyone should shut up. thats my point. i think we should talk about this in the open. got it perry??? lets get back to being punks. fuck these traitors. do crypto and fuck the nsa. an116512(a)anon.penet.fi

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New SSN Law
by lucifer＠dhp.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Robert A. Costner wrote: > Why does the store need my social security number for me to purchase soft > drinks and eggs? (40 cents off on eggs this week) I see no reason for it. > If I provide a false number, I have probably committed some crime. > > Yes, I would support a law that forbids private companies to ask for social > security numbers except for tax purposes. Am I missing something? Didn't we used to have one of those? Wasn't that changed so that government and corporate interests could put us all in more efficient boxes to control us and make money off of us? Some states already use the SSN on the driver's licenses. More will follow. The SSN is our National Identity Card and there is no going back. The tattoo is history and the Identity Chip is the future.

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Re: May's Banal Rant
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Michael Froomkin wrote: >I don't understand this. Of all the alphabet soup privacy groups out >there, EPIC is the one I consider most pro-privacy and anonymity other >than the ACLU itself. And EPIC knows the tech better, on the whole >(although the ACLU is quite clued-up too). It is true that EPIC is not >absolutist on SAFE -- and I'm not quite sure that they are right to give >even the inch they gave to get a mile -- but they're awfully good. > >Rotenburg should be a near-hero to most readers of this list. Instead, >canabalism. Weird. Very weird. What most of us think is very weird is Rotenburg's apparent inability to carry on a coherent dialogue. Tim May raised several solid and specific points. We've got back ad hominem attacks on "libertarians". Instead of name calling, Rotenburg would have done well to simply justify (or change) his position. At this point, Mr. Rotenburg and his supporters should explain exactly what it is they do for us and how we can verify it. "We arrived at a compromise with the Senate" is not persuasive to most of the people on this list. When you believe that privacy will be promoted by hiring more bureacrats the level of trust warranted is not high. So, if EPIC is doing any good, it had better be the kind of good we can monitor. As for the ACLU, they are notoriously inconsistent when it comes to the Constitution. They seem to be pretty good with the First Amendment, but that's about it. They undermine the Second Amendment. They campaign for welfare on the basis that it is a prerequisite for the exercise of civil rights. They sue aspirin manufacturers for labelling their products in English. They push "fair" credit laws. Etc. Etc. We don't need friends like the ACLU or, it appears, EPIC. Dr. Roberts

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MAIL: Professional Crime
by Blanc Weber 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: David K. Merriman Only if it could be worked through an anonymous remailer system and blind escrow agent :-) ............................................................... Well, hey - a real working model! Something to measure the system against! Blanc

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