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Suit with braindead tie
by She Devil With A Modem 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Also Sprach Anonymous: > > time.com / The Netly News > May 19, 1998 > > There was blood in the water in Washington, DC yesterday, and > Microsoft's foes hardly had a chance to rejoice over the government's > anticipated antitrust lawsuit before they were asking for more. > Longtime Microfoe Gary Reback, an attorney with the Silicon Valley law > firm Wilson Sonsini Goodrich & Rosati, still thinks breaking up > Microsoft AT&T-style would be a good idea. At a press conference > yesterday, Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-Utah) predicted the lawsuit "will > become even broader. I have no doubt about that." Netscape dubbed it a > welcome but only an "initial step." > > [...remainder snipped...] I wonder if anyone else has picked up on the "Braindead military action" of awarding Microsoft the dubiously coveted intelligence desktop? It may not be as braindead as you think. Yes, if standard kickbacks and BS occur as they have in the past (those who are not free to speak about the mistakes of the past may be doomed to see them repeated) then technical support for the poor troopies required to maintain the shitty, buggy NT ports may end up making "Blue Screen Of Death" have an entirely new and sad meaning. It's sad that the lack of the intelligence community's desire to police itself as much as it would like to police America's generic civilians results in the sort of kickbacking that yields inferior weaponry, but I guess if they don't address that it will end up biting them in the ass. And yes, that is indeed indicative of a braindead military, led by the supreme oxymoron of a braindead military intelligence community, where the dutiful are asked to turn their eyes away (for reasons of classification, of course) from the acts of the greedy. But assume for a moment that it might be the military and not M$oft that holds the leash on the contract. Imagine a Microsoft that has sold it's soul to the US Intel community. Couldn't happen to a nicer company, don't you think? Microsoft HAVING to port their NT stuff to the Unix boxes that hold the databases and the communications servers. Microsoft HAVING to provide a certain amount of "mission critical" tech support. Microsoft HAVING to deal with adapting to the real world, rather than forcing the world to adapt to it. This could be the beginning of a beautiful "friendship". >;-7 -- "Good evening, Mr. Burglar! My name is Jowles! | Do not CD c Would you care for a cocktail before I attempt | taunt --------P===\==/ to intimidate you with my aggressive behavior?" | happy fun /_\__ -- Miss Manners' Attack Dog | fencer! _\ \ S

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Re: Chaum's patent on traceable payment systems
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Chaum's "limited-traceability" patent includes other features which directly counterbalance those of the Abstract accurately posted by Anonymous. We've transcribed the initial sections of the 17-page patent which provide a fuller view of what his system offers: http://jya.com/chaum-lts.htm It's an interesting, nuanced proposal, from 1994, which helps explain some of the strategy he's been keeping close to his chest until patent approval, and which may portend more provocative designs in the pipeline for outfoxing the keepers of the chickens.

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'Nobody', Still At Home!
by StanSqncrs 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In a message dated 5/19/98 10:09:01 PM Central Daylight Time, mixmaster(a)remail.obscura.com writes: << Stan, It is considered rude to quote a private e-mail publicly without obtaining permission from the sender first. Try putting "netiquitte" in your favorite search engine. Then read and learn. This will help you. >> Gee, like sending anonomous, unsolicited e-mail isn't against "netiquitte"? Try taking that "plank" out of you eye, buddy! Stan

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by Adults Only 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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by out＠sex-e-world.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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re:programming
by josh434＠juno.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

i was thinking along the lines of pascal or c i don't want to use apple or any form of it and besides i have a ibm compatible which do you think is better thanx for all your responses they've helped somewhat what is wrong with pascal or c please enclose all things that i should take in to consideration much appreciative josh _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

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programing
by josh434＠juno.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

hello i am new to this list i would like to know what programing language everyone prefers and any books they recommend on that subject thanx josh _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

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Off topic.
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Call 1-800-343-3222 to stop the U. S. government from leeching off of the tobacco companies.

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re:programing
by josh434＠juno.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

hello it is i josh once again i finally bought a book for visual basic does anyone know where i can get a complier for version 5 the book is by waite group press by e zone it's web based though and i don't have the internet but i think it will be fine reading it out of the book what do you think thanx josh _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866]

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Re: "Key Escrow" --- the very idea
by rah＠shipwright.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 4:49 PM 7/21/94 -0700, Mike_Spreitzer.PARC(a)xerox.com wrote: >(1) I'm not an anarchist. [snip] I'm a congenital republican. [snip] >(2) I think crimes can be committed in cyberspace... [snip] So do I. [snip] >(4) If you accept points (1) and (2) above, you're left wanting a way to >implement searches in cyberspace when due process is followed. [Plea for better key escrow removed] I've never gotten into the Clipper discussion before now. I've assumed (somewhat lazily, I might add) that market forces would kill it, if nothing else. I am much more in other consequences of strong-crypto and global public-access computer networks; e$ and all that... I'm not so sure that wiretapping was ever a good idea, but the "private life" of the technology which enabled it ensured its use. Like machine guns, nuclear weapons and semi-automatic firearms, weapons (wiretapping is as surely a weapon as any of the above) will be used. Fortunately, counter-weapons arise. Gentlemen didn't read each other's mail because they couldn't do it practically. Telephony and signals intellegence changed that. People found that they could, and they did it. Now the technological pendulum has swung back to the days where letters were sealed in wax with unique seals. I would like to propose, probably not the first time on this list, an acceptable, time-honored method of determining the contents of a secure conversation. Snitches. That's they used before wiretaps, and it seemed to work well enough then. A contempt of court citation for refusing a warranted search seems strong enough to handle the rest of a government's prosecutory urges. Cheers, Bob ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) "There is no difference between someone Shipwright Development Corporation who eats too little and sees Heaven and 44 Farquhar Street someone who drinks too much and sees Boston, MA 02331 USA snakes." -- Bertrand Russell (617) 323-7923

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