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Re: Public Schools
by James A. Donald 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Phil Fraering <pgf(a)acadian.net> writes: >> > Without vouchers, you don't say anything about the intelligence of >> > your test subjects; to a _very_ large degree, intelligence isn't >> > genetic. Or Bag of shit wrote: >> That's the political correct thing to say, but do you have any >> scientific evidence to support this claim? At 11:19 PM 9/25/96 -0700, Dale Thorn wrote: > People have argued for genetic disposition to certain things, and I > think they are sometimes (most times?) confused [...] [Lots of meaningless hand waving hot air deleted] The key basic test of the power of genes is studies of identical twins raised in different families. They have near identical IQ's, and a wide range of very similar behavior. Identical twins raised in different families are more similar than identical twins raised in the same family, probably because of deliberate attempts to differentiate themselves. Except in the case of extreme environmental pressures -- starvation, neglect, and the like, genes count for just about everything, and environment for almost nothing. --------------------------------------------------------------------- | We have the right to defend ourselves | http://www.jim.com/jamesd/ and our property, because of the kind | of animals that we are. True law | James A. Donald derives from this right, not from the | arbitrary power of the state. | jamesd(a)echeque.com

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Re: Hallam-Baker demands more repudiations or he'll write!
by Jean-Francois Avon 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On 27 Sep 96 at 0:21, Simon Spero wrote: > On Thu, 26 Sep 1996, Declan McCullagh wrote: > > > Anonymity and nonescrowed crypto are the linchpins of AP and its > > more general case, Maysian crypto anarchy. The withering of the > > nation-state. > > If I might dare a crypto-related comment as well; it also requires > an absolutely trusted third-party to manage the funds and issue the > ecash used to pay the murderer, (sorry, fortunate gambler). The > reason why the third party must be trusted by both the payers and > the gambler, and thus cannot be anonymous (only at 'best' > pseduonymous) should be obvious. For the payer, the ammount involved is so small that he might thing it is worth a shot to put the price of two bottles of beer "just in case" it works. As the system gets known, it'll gain reputation. For the hitman, this is another story, but there is a way. AP, a sensationalistically choosen name (No, Jim, I know... you intended it only as a joke) very badly describes what the server does. It could accept donations for all sorts of things, many of them being legally unconsequential. So, a potential hitman group could make donations for anybody who would predict any kind of event and see if they would pay. The server could not even know if these would be integrity tests or legitimate donations. IMO, there is only one way to prevent AP: it is by preventing the advent of e-cash. Making it illegal to issue such currency, and seize and prosecute heavily if any of it is found. This would includes, of course, gold (or other material value) e-tokens, etc. It will come from a total control of money. Can it be done? I doubt it very stronly. jfa Did you give away a copy of PGP to a friend today? Please Cc me any reply, I am not on Cypherpunks anymore. Thanks.

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Re: Weaknesses in Smart Cards? (Re: FLA_wed)
by Hallam-Baker 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Its worse than that. The Bellcore piece was presented as being about a possible weakness in MONDEX. In fact MONDEX does not use the cryptographic technique investigated. Its a symmetric key (DES) based system. I would immagine they would keep a symmetric component even if they go for a public key system. BTW if you think carefully about MONDEX you will note that a public key system does not improve security. The system depends on private keys embedded in the devices. There is no value in having the devices use public key signatures over symetric ones. Phill PS whats the betting that anyone at a high profile site who happens to be offline for a few hours to (say) change service providers will be reported as having been "hacked"?

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Call for Papers
by Enzo Michelangeli 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

FYI... ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 24 Sep 96 09:49:03 EDT From: Nick Maxemchuk <nfm(a)research.bell-labs.com> To: apc(a)ee.nthu.edu.tw, apc_members(a)hornbill.ee.nus.sg, commsoft(a)cc.bellcore.com, enternet(a)bbn.com, ietf(a)CNRI.Reston.VA.US, itc(a)fokus.gmd.de, multicomm(a)cc.bellcore.com, tccc(a)cs.umass.edu Subject: Call for Papers CALL FOR PAPERS IEEE Journal on Selected Areas in Communications COPYRIGHT AND PRIVACY PROTECTION Significant investments are now being made worldwide to develop an infrastructure for on-line services and electronic commerce. A major impediment is the lack of effective protection of copyright for content owners and of privacy for users. Digital data can be easily copied and redistributed widely without any loss of fidelity. One promising idea is to discourage illicit distribution by watermarking digital objects with hidden copyright messages to proclaim ownership and unique identifiers to help trace pirates. The techniques of information hiding are in many ways related to mechanisms that can be used to protect the anonymity of system users by concealing address, location and routing information. The problem becomes even more interesting when privacy protection and copyright protection must be combined in the same system. We seek fundamental papers on watermarking of digital data, on techniques for anonymous communications, and design and analysis of systems that protect copyright and/or privacy. A partial list of topics is as follows: + watermarking of digital data + anonymous communications + steganography + covert and subliminal channels in networks protocols + combining copyright and privacy protection + experiments and attacks + tradeoffs between performance and security Prospective authors should email their manuscripts (PostScript format only) or send six hard copies to one of the Guest Editors listed below, according to the following schedule. Please direct all email enquiries to slow(a)ee.mu.oz.au. Manuscript Due: March 1, 1997 Acceptance Notification: August 1, 1997 Final Manuscript Due: November 1, 1997 Publication Date: 2nd Quarter 1998 Ross Anderson Ingemar Cox Cambridge University Computer Lab NEC Research Pembroke Street 4 Independence Way Cambridge CB2 3QG, U.K. Princeton NJ 08540, USA Tel: +44 1223 33 47 33 Tel: +1 609 951 2722 Fax: +44 1223 33 46 78 Fax: +1 609 951 2482 Email: ross.anderson(a)cl.cam.ac.uk Email: ingemar(a)research.nj.nec.com Steven Low Nicholas Maxemchuk Dept. of Electrical Electronic Engr. ATT Laborataries University of Melbourne 600 Mountain Ave. Parkville, Vic 3052, Australia Murray Hill NJ 07974, USA Tel: +6 13 9287 9205 Tel: +1 908 582 6240 Fax: +6 13 9287 9188 Fax: +1 908 582 5807 Email: slow(a)ee.mu.oz.au Email: nfm(a)research.att.com

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Re: Tamper-Resistant Software from INTEL
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 07:57 PM 9/26/96 -0500, snow wrote: >Mr. Guthery >> Has anybody heard of tamper-resistant software in general or a method >> for tamper-resistant software from Intel in particular? > > What do you mean by "tamper resistant"? It means that if you do *ANYTHING* to try and adjust, modify, and/or configure the software, it no longer functions. Sadly, Microsoft has beat them to the punch on this technology. --- | "Remember: You can't have BSDM without BSD." - alan(a)ctrl-alt-del.com | |"The moral PGP Diffie taught Zimmermann unites all| Disclaimer: | | mankind free in one-key-steganography-privacy!" | Ignore the man | |`finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key | behind the keyboard.| | http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ | alano(a)teleport.com |

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Oral Argument to Be Held April 24 in Crypto Export Case
by Shari Steele 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Everyone in the Akron area is encouraged to attend this hearing (8:30am, Akron federal courthouse) and show the judge how important it is that the export controls on encryption be repealed. If you are able to attend, please remember to dress in your best courtroom attire and to be respectful of the court. EFF and the Bernstein legal team wish Peter Junger, Gino Scarcelli and the rest of the Junger legal team the best of luck. For more information on the Junger case, see http://samsara.law.cwru.edu/comp_law/jvd/. Shari Oral Argument to Be Held April 24 in Crypto Export Case Stipulation of Undisputed Facts Filed in Law Suit Challenging Federal Licensing of Publishers of Encryption Software Junger v. Daley on Fast Track ---------------------------------------------------------------- Cleveland, Ohio, Monday, April 13, 1998 For Immediate Release For More Information Contact: Peter D. Junger (216) 368-2535 <junger(a)samsara.law.cwru.edu> Raymond Vasvari (216) 522-1925 <freespeech(a)mail.multiverse.com> Or see URL: http://samsara.law.cwru.edu/comp_law/jvd/ To be added to, or removed from, the list of those who were sent this press release, please send e-mail to <lawsuit(a)upaya.multiverse.com>. _________________________________________________________________ Cleveland, Ohio, April 13 -- Arguments in Junger v. Daley, the law suit challenging the constitutionality of the export regulations on encryption software, will be held in front of Judge Gwin on April 24 at 8:30 AM at the federal courthouse in Akron, Ohio. The parties have filed a Stipulation of Undisputed Facts which is now available from the cryptography archive maintained by John Young at <http://www.jya.com/pdj8.htm> and from the plaintiff's archive at <http://samsara.law.cwru.edu/comp_law/jvd/pdj8.htm>. The suit was brought by Peter Junger, a law professor at Case Western Reserve University in Cleveland, Ohio against William Daley, the United States Secretary of Commerce, to establish that the export regulations restricting the publication of computer programs used to protect privacy and confidentiality violate the freedoms of speech and of the press guaranteed by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. Those regulations, which apply only to publication on the Internet and the World Wide Web and by other electronic means, but not to traditional books or magazines, have been extensively challenged by the computer industry and by civil rights groups. There is now legislation pending in Congress that would relax or abolish the current restrictions on ``exporting'' encryption software, restrictions that endanger the competitive position of the United States software industry and effectively prevent many within the the United States from obtaining the computer programs that they need to preserve their privacy. ``Those are very important issues,'' Professor Junger says, ``but the issues raised by my suit do not just affect encryption software. If the government can restrict the writing and publication of encryption programs because they are useful--and that is basically what the government is claiming--without regard to the authors' and publishers' constitutional rights under the First Amendment, then, by the same reasoning, it could forbid the publication of any computer program that earns the disfavor of the authorities. At this time of year, for example, I find it easy to believe that the government would like to forbid the publication of tax preparation software that the tax collectors feel are too good at detecting loopholes.'' Both sides have asked for summary judgment and it is expected that Judge Gwin will be able to decide the case shortly after the hearing on the 24th without any further proceedings, but if any issues remain to be be decided after that Judge Gwin has set July 20th as the date on which the case will go to trial. ``It is good to be back on the fast track,'' Junger says, ``and I am confident that the case can be decided without a trial. The dispute is not about the facts. The only real issue is whether, and to what extent, the constitution protects the writing and publication of computer programs. And a trial is not going to be necessary to settle that issue. ``But this is only the first step,'' he adds. ``No matter who wins in the district court, it is almost certain that the other side will appeal the case. My lawyers, and particularly Gino Scarselli, have done a wonderful job at considerable personal sacrifice. As I think about the prospects of an appeal, I only hope that we can raise some support for them.'' A fund has been established to defray the cost of this litigation and contributions may now be sent to Professor Spencer Neth, Case Western Reserve University Law School, Cleveland, OH 44106. Checks should bear the notation ``Junger Litigation Fund'' or ``Crypto Litigation Fund.'' -30- -- Shari Steele, Staff Attorney ssteele(a)eff.org Electronic Frontier Foundation 301.375.8856 (v) P.O. Box 649 301.283.5337 (f) Bryans Road, MD 20616 http://www.eff.org/homes/steele.html

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Re: ssh - How widely used?
by Chris Wedgwood 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

:From: martin hamilton <M.T.Hamilton(a)lboro.ac.uk> :To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com :cc: ssh(a)clinet.fi :Subject: Re: ssh - How widely used? : :On Thu, 26 Sep 1996, Adam Shostack wrote: : :> Theres a windows version, mac is under vauge development. SSH :> is pretty cool, but the code base is somewhat messy, and its shows :> signs of its origins in things like systems calls not having their :> return values checked. : :Shame it costs $$$, though I appreciate that Tatu needs to eat... ;-) : :Perhaps Cedomir Igaly could be persuaded to release the source code to the :Windows port he did ? Anyone else interested in getting a little group :together to hack on this ? (under GPL or BSD style copyright) : :Martin I have a hackery botch job that I have done to make ssh run in a Windows NT console session (untested under '95, but should work). The trouble is it contains a mix of commercial code (which I do not own and cannot distribute) and GNU code. Thus, I can use it myself - but not distribute it. I was speaking to someone yesterday about this, as I was at one stage thinking I may get the code cleaned up as much as possible (ie. only contain GNU code) and release it to the masses to play with. Eventually it might turn out to be something of use... Doing this would, perhaps, undermine Datafellows and Tatu somewhat. As someone who writes code to put food on the table, I wouldn't really feel comfortable doing this. Tatu has spent a whole heap of time on this, doing so wouldn't be fair this early. A freely available, albeit with no guarantee or support and fewer features version of ssh would surely effect sales to a reasonable extent? I would recommend people buy the product. If you fell it too expensive, then complain to datafellows about this. Eventually the make take some notice of these complaints, or have alternate pricing structures that make the product more attractive for your needs. IMO its not terribly expensive. Chris P.S. (Any replies to this please cc to me of ssh(a)clinet.fi as I don't read CP very often)

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The daily reminder regarding Timothy C. May, the licenced fellatiologist
by Dustbin Freedom Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Embedded in Timothy C. May's babblings are preposterous lies, wild distortions, child pornography (both as graphic descriptions and in JPEG format), ethnic slurs, and bomb- making recipes. No wonder he encrypts them.

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RE: LivePGP (fwd)
by Adam Shostack 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

----- Edited message from Ming-Ching Tiew ----- >From mctiew(a)csi.po.my Thu Sep 26 22:36:39 1996 Message-ID: <01BBAC57.C7351E60@minuet> From: Ming-Ching Tiew <mctiew(a)csi.po.my> To: "'Adam Shostack'" <adam(a)homeport.org> Subject: RE: LivePGP Date: Fri, 27 Sep 1996 09:39:21 +-800 Encoding: 38 TEXT Do you already have this information ? http://www.vv.com.au/vv/resources/security/livepgp/README.html The copy is expiring soon. I will soon be releasing a new copy which is much for polished. I am not releasing the source. ----- End of forwarded message from Ming-Ching Tiew -----

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Public Schools
by ronsimpson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I hate to burst any bubbles but, the school with the highest number of National Merit Finalists and highest number of 1600 SATs is a Public High School (Jefferson High in Fairfax, VA)

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