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ADMIN: lost messages (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > From: Jeff Barber <jeffb(a)issl.atl.hp.com> > Subject: ADMIN: lost messages > Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 08:22:06 -0400 (EDT) > CPunks list administrators, > > There appears to be an occasional breakdown in the list > distribution/reflection. I am sometimes seeing responses to articles > that I haven't received. For example, a message from > spencer_ante(a)webmagazine.com has been the subject of several > follow-ups (according to their In-reply-to fields, it is message > ID <88256538.00787D24.00(a)pcwhub.pcworld.com>). Yes, there are occassional breakdowns in the communications between the list remailers. The reason that there are several of them is if one goes down for more than a few minutes the whole lists doesn't go down which would occur if we were still on a single remailer. In cases such as this I would suggest checking the archives provided by a couple of sites (I thought since I don't check the archives). > Any clues? Things get lost on occassion? ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there | | be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves. | | | | -Alan Greenspan- | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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SSZ - ISDN repairs today...
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi, As most of you are aware SSZ has been experiencing a great deal of ISDN stability issues the last 4-6 weeks (since the move to the new location). To date we have been through a cable throw from one trunk line to another which involved switching CO's. Since that throw we have seen intermittent outages lasting from a minute or so up to 15 minutes (perhaps longer but I didn't see them since logging is not always turned on). Well I get up this morning and find the ISDN exhibiting the exact same sort of intermittetent outages from last weekend, except now they ain't so intermittent. Seems the cool weather and light rain have exacerbated the issue such that we are in a nearly continous connect-disconnect cycle. We are still passing packets with no loss, beit slowly. I called SWBT and they are sending a installer out to put the line on another distinct pair as well as putting in a repeater to boost the pair-gain. Expect there to be intermittent outages of an hour or more today. If the fixes work we should be rock-solid again. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there | | be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves. | | | | -Alan Greenspan- | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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[CRYPTO] Death of USENET Cabal Predicted, Film at 11
by Bovine Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Freeh-style Encryption needed to fight infowar threat
by Tim May 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I just saw the principle author of the recently released report of the "Commission on Critical Infrastructure Protection," interviewed on CNBC, a business program. Robert Marsh called for increased use of encyption to proect the nation's computer networks against hackers and crackers and info-terrorists. The catch? It's the FBI proposal he wants to see adopted. Personally, I think this issue, and Marsh in particular, are sleep-inducers to most people, so I don't see this as a driving force for GAK the way a building being blown up, or a child porn ring, will be. --Tim May The Feds have shown their hand: they want a ban on domestic cryptography ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^2,976,221 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: puff pieces vs tough crypto issues (Re: Singapore TOILET ALERT)
by Ariel Glenn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Kent Crispin writes: >They could wave around TIS's products (designed by noted cypherpunk >Carl Ellison, I believe), or NorTel's Entrust, just as well. Hell, in >a few months they may be able to wave around Adam Backs CDR product, >which also facilitates GAK...[deleted] sure, but PGP has a certain name recognition that appears to extend beyond the computing business community; ask your average cs student what PGP is and they'll have heard of it *and* its reputation. Ask them about Entrust and see if you get the same result. (I could do that here with my managers as a demo. :-) Now figure out what your representatives in Congress know: even less. So, PGP gets cited by Congress as an example, and the other corporations building in GAK or who have signed on to get that good export license for DES don't. Ariel Glenn ariel(a)columbia.edu

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Re: PGP, Inc.--What were they thinking? (fwd)
by Jim Choate 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Forwarded message: > Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 19:57:59 -0600 > From: TruthMonger <tm(a)dev.null> > Subject: Re: PGP, Inc.--What were they thinking? > *Starts* eavesdropping? Where you been, Bubba? > When a Company has the 'right' to wiretap you, search you, and make > you piss in a jar, as well as having their own armed forces monitoring > you and patrolling your workplace, the main difference between them > and the government is that the corporation usually doesn't pretend > to allow you to vote. This is plain and simple bullshit. There are a variety of differences between a government and what they can do by general charter in a democracy and a company which operates on specific contracts. > TruthMonger ParanoiaMonger is more like it. ____________________________________________________________________ | | | The financial policy of the welfare state requires that there | | be no way for the owners of wealth to protect themselves. | | | | -Alan Greenspan- | | | | _____ The Armadillo Group | | ,::////;::-. Austin, Tx. USA | | /:'///// ``::>/|/ http://www.ssz.com/ | | .', |||| `/( e\ | | -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- Jim Choate | | ravage(a)ssz.com | | 512-451-7087 | |____________________________________________________________________|

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Trip to SF/Bay Area around November 24, cypherpunk meeting?
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I'm thinking of spending a few days in the Bay Area in about a month, maybe the week of Thanksgiving. My S.O., a cypherpunkish Net and telecommunications lawyer here in DC, seems likely to join me. I'd love to come to a Bay Area cypherpunk meeting if there are any then, and spend some time with folks out there. Any plans to have one around Nov 24-27? This is more of a pleasure than a business trip, though I'll write an article if there are any interesting developments on the crypto-front. (Any suggestions on places to stay?) -Declan

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17 Dec '03

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Re: PGP 5.5 CMR/GAK: a possible solution
by mark＠unicorn.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

jon(a)pgp.com wrote: > This is exactly CMR. The only thing that Business 5.5 does is automatically > add the department for you, and put up the recipient dialog so it can be > taken off. Congrats. On the contrary, it is *not* CMR. CMR encrypts to multiple keys for a single recipient. This system only ever encrypts to one key per recipient. PGP 5.5's ability to force people to encrypt to multiple keys for one recipient is the evil aspect of the design, because it's the one which allows it to be used to enforce GAK. PGP's CMR can be used to force everyone to encrypt to the FBI as well as the NSA. My system can't. I tried very hard to make this distinction clear in my description. I'm amazed that so many people seemed to miss it. Mark

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What RSA & Netscape have to offer
by William H. Geiger III 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hi, While the list is busy knocking PGP for not doing the "right thing" or being the "first ones to blink" I though I would share with the list what some of the "big boys" are doing for the spread of "Strong Crypto to the Masses". Below is from the most current S/MIME draft "draft-dusse-smime-msg-05" dated 19-Oct-1997: 2.6 ContentEncryptionAlgorithmIdentifier Receiving agents MUST support decryption using the RC2 [RC2] or a compatible algorithm at a key size of 40 bits, hereinafter called "RC2/40". Receiving agents SHOULD support decryption using DES EDE3 CBC, hereinafter called "tripleDES" [3DES] [DES]. Sending agents SHOULD support encryption with RC2/40 and tripleDES. I think that when taking pot-shots at PGP, Inc. and Phil Zimmerman one should look at what the alternatives are and who are really are friends here. IMNSHO companies like RSA, Netscape, Microsoft, Verisign, et al, who would sell us all out if it improved their bottom lines do not qualify. - -- - --------------------------------------------------------------- William H. Geiger III http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii Geiger Consulting Cooking With Warp 4.0 Author of E-Secure - PGP Front End for MR/2 Ice PGP & MR/2 the only way for secure e-mail. OS/2 PGP 2.6.3a at: http://www.amaranth.com/~whgiii/pgpmr2.html - --------------------------------------------------------------- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3a Charset: cp850 Comment: Registered_User_E-Secure_v1.1b1_ES000000 iQCVAwUBNE8Iqo9Co1n+aLhhAQGWswP+MnvOCL1EoURWpEPt23I/UIuRWBovby8d AxZS3N8/exnI2M3kDCC2mTUWmvaKdsUnwErnXCQ9nQTDa9B+2VUBlijtkC+nsTV8 Vuv484AU51havdyttE87YMDXx8LSkdWnGXLs8TpjrRXiDZlxPJWIif3haK1hC5kg I3VmdwaZc/4= =7Fan -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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