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by Lyle_Seaman＠transarc.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

A couple of my neighbors and I were talking about setting up a short-distance radio LAN (we talked about just running coax, but one of them is across a street and about 60 yds down, we don't want to buy/lease rights-of-way, etc). While I know my way around a soldering iron, I haven't designed a circuit in 10 years, and even then they weren't terribly complicated. Pointers to commercially available hardware or kit plans would be appreciated. -- Lyle Transarc 707 Grant Street 412 338 4474 The Gulf Tower Pittsburgh 15219 "Gossip is what makes the world go round. I have very few secrets. I would be deeply concerned if a device were marketed that could stop interception..." Emma Nicholson, MP.

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RE: Milgram & Authority
by Blanc Weber 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: Hal We have as much responsibility as Milgram to consider the likely results if we succeed. It will be a different world, and, we hope, a better one. But some things will be worse, of that there is little doubt. We must constantly weigh the bad against the good and take actions on that basis, rather than blindly and unthinkingly seeking to push the envelope just to see what happens. ......................................................... I was thinking that perhaps Phil Zimmerman is under "fire" at this time because the powers-that-be have concluded that he pushed the envelope of liberty to an unacceptable degree; that he has been categorized by them as having taken a "bad" action without forethought in regard of the adverse consequences which will befall society, if everyone is in full possession of their very own secret code. Reading what Hal said earlier about PhilZ's qualities of character, I was thinking - if this is the kind of person whom they would define as a criminal, that his actions would be considered irresponsible and damaging, then it makes sense that from their perspective he should be subjected to investigation and prosecution (persecution?). Were their concerns based on the fact that he has introduced a dangerous tool into the "herd"? Was it that he had overstepped the boundaries of the authority allowed to him as a citizen unit? Was it that they feel threatened by what he represents to them in the kind of person he is (not respecting of their authority), or by the situation which was created when he made available his software to all? I'm examining the perspective from which one makes conclusions about human actions per se; how decisions about which actions to take depend upon how one interprets the situation. This discussion originally developed from the question of whether humans have herd instincts and whether this explains their behavior in the face of "authority". In a herd, the bovines don't have much room to see beyond the next cow, and it would be difficult to see why those in front will go in one direction or another, but it would be easy to follow along based on the presumption that the ones at the front who have the better view will also know why what direction to take better than those stuck somewhere in the middle. This experiment was a contrived fabrication, an 'experiment'. The information available about it was mostly limited to what the researcher provided, and some exaggerated behavior from the actors (I guess it was mostly sound?). I expect that the test subjects believed that the 'tortured ones' were in consent to being subjected to the supposed suffering with which they were being inflicted (right?), unlike a real circumstance wherein the torture would have been repelled and the participants would have had no cause to deliver it. In real life, there must be cause for behavior - things must make sense to the person who is interpreting the situation and making decisions about what to do. >From the perspective of many on this list, it's wrong to abdicate from personal responsibility even under stressful circumstances; on the other hand, the above example presents good argument for authoritative types who think it is necessary to lead people around by the nose because otherwise, it is claimed, they will not be able to make good moral decisions when left to their own devices (or Phil Zimmerman's devices). That they should be subject to an external authority because they cannot be trusted to know when to accept responsibility. Blanc

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Re: V-chips, CC, and Motorcycle Helmets
by frantz＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:18 PM 2/11/96 -0800, Alan Olsen wrote: ... >You have to remember that most of the people arguing for TV filters are >looking for a way to make the "offensive" stuff go away for good. Absolutely! But the technology that lets individuals make the choice weakens their argument that the government must take a hand. >The v-chip will be less than useful as a real filter tool for those of us >who have a different worldview than the censors. Again, absolutely. Hell, I can't even devise a filter that will let me filter out Jim Bell's rants while letting me see his reasoned arguments on anonymous assassination. (I would love to have him address the Salman Rushdie issue, a man who is still alive despite a considerable announced price for his head. There appear to be limits to who can be subject to assassination for pay.) Bill

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Where to get PGP
by exabyte!smtplink!mikej＠uunet.UU.NET 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- WHERE TO GET THE PRETTY GOOD PRIVACY PROGRAM (PGP) (Last modified: 26 April 1994 by Mike Johnson) The latest commercial version is 2.4 The latest freeware Mac version is 2.3 The latest freeware version for all other platforms is 2.3a If you are a commercial user of PGP in the USA or Canada, contact Viacrypt in Phoenix, Arizona, USA. The commecial version of PGP is fully licensed to use the patented RSA and IDEA encryption algorithms in commercial applications, and may be used in corporate environments in the USA and Canada. It is fully compatible with, functionally the same as, and just as strong as the freeware version of PGP. Due to limitations on ViaCrypt's RSA distribution license, ViaCrypt only distributes executable code and documentation for it, but they are working on making PGP available for a variety of platforms. Call or write to them for the latest information. The latest information I have from them on compiled versions are: MS-DOS 2.4 Unix 2.4 (several different platforms) WinCIM CSNAV 2.4 Mac version expected late this summer. ViaCrypt David A. Barnhart, Product Manager 2104 West Peoria Avenue Phoenix, Arizona 85029 Tel: (602) 944-0773 Fax: (602) 943-2601 E-Mail: 70304.41(a)compuserve.com E-Mail: wk01965(a)worldlink.com Credit card orders only. (800)536-2664 (8-5 MST M-F) The freeware version of PGP is intended for noncommercial, experimental, and scholarly use. It is available on thousands of BBSes, commercial information services, and Internet anonymous-ftp archive sites on the planet called Earth. This list cannot be comprehensive, but it should give you plenty of pointers to places to find PGP. Although the latest freeware version of PGP was released from outside the USA (New Zealand), it is not supposed to be exported from the USA under a strange law called the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR). Because of this, please get PGP from a site outside the USA if you are outside of the USA. This data is subject to change without notice. If you find that PGP has been removed from any of these sites, please let me know so that I can update this list. Likewise, if you find PGP on a good site elsewhere (especially on any BBS that allows first time callers to access PGP for free), please let me know so that I can update this list. Thanks to Gary Edstrom and Hugh Miller for providing part of this data. FTP sites: soda.berkeley.edu /pub/cypherpunks/pgp (DOS, MAC) Verified: 21-Dec-93 ftp.demon.co.uk /pub/amiga/pgp /pub/archimedes /pub/pgp /pub/mac/MacPGP ftp.informatik.tu-muenchen.de ftp.funet.fi ghost.dsi.unimi.it /pub/crypt Verified: 21-Dec-93 ftp.tu-clausthal.de (139.174.2.10) wuarchive.wustl.edu /pub/aminet/util/crypt src.doc.ic.ac.uk (Amiga) /aminet /amiga-boing ftp.informatik.tu-muenchen.de /pub/comp/os/os2/crypt/pgp23os2A.zip (OS/2) black.ox.ac.uk (129.67.1.165) /src/security/pgp23A.zip (MS-DOS executables & docs) /src/security/pgp23srcA.zip (Unix, MS-DOS, VMS, Amiga sources, docs, info on building PGP into mailers, editors, etc.) /src/security/pgp23A.tar.Z (Same as PGP22SRC.ZIP, in Unix tar format) /src/security/macpgp2.3.cpt.hqx (Macintosh version) iswuarchive.wustl.edu pub/aminet/util/crypt (Amiga) csn.org /mpj/README.MPJ contains variable directory name -- read this first. /mpj/help explains how to get to hidden directory containing PGP /mpj/I_will_not_export/crypto_???????/pgp/ contains current PGP /mpj/I_will_not_export/crypto_???????/pgptools/ contains related tools /mpj/public/pgp/ contains PGP shells, faq documentation, etc. ftp.netcom.com /pub/mpj (see README.MPJ -- similar layout to csn.org//mpj) /pub/gbe/pgpfaq.asc -- frequently asked questions answered. nic.funet.fi (128.214.6.100) /pub/crypt/pgp23A.zip /pub/crypt/pgp23srcA.zip /pub/crypt/pgp23A.tar.Z van-bc.wimsey.bc.ca (192.48.234.1) /m/ftp2/crypto/RSA/PGP/2.3a/pgp23A.zip /m/ftp2/crypto/RSA/PGP/2.3a/pgp23srcA.zip ftp.uni-kl.de (131.246.9.95) qiclab.scn.rain.com (147.28.0.97) pc.usl.edu (130.70.40.3) leif.thep.lu.se (130.235.92.55) goya.dit.upm.es (138.4.2.2) tupac-amaru.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (137.226.112.31) ftp.etsu.edu (192.43.199.20) princeton.edu (128.112.228.1) pencil.cs.missouri.edu (128.206.100.207) StealthPGP: The Amiga version can be FTP'ed from the Aminet in /pub/aminet/util/crypt/ as StealthPGP1_0.lha. Also, try an archie search for PGP using the command: archie -s pgp23 (DOS Versions) archie -s pgp2.3 (MAC Versions) ftpmail: For those individuals who do not have access to FTP, but do have access to e-mail, you can get FTP files mailed to you. For information on this service, send a message saying "Help" to ftpmail(a)decwrl.dec.com. You will be sent an instruction sheet on how to use the ftpmail service. Another e-mail service is from nic.funet.fi. Send the following mail message to mailserv(a)nic.funet.fi: ENCODER uuencode SEND pub/crypt/pgp23srcA.zip SEND pub/crypt/pgp23A.zip This will deposit the two zipfiles, as 15 batched messages, in your mailbox with about 24 hours. Save and uudecode. BBS sites: Hieroglyphics Vodoo Machine (Colorado) DOS version only (303) 443-2457 Verified: 26-Dec-93 Colorado Catacombs BBS (Longmont, CO) v.32bis/v.42bis 14,400 baud (303) 938-9654 (Boulder, CO number) 8 data bits, 1 stop, no parity (303) 678-9939 (Longmont, CO number) Exec-Net (New York) Host BBS for the ILink net. (914) 667-4567 The Ferret BBS (North Little Rock, Arkansas) (501) 791-0124 also (501) 791-0125 Carrying RIME, Throbnet, Smartnet, and Usenet Special PGP users account: login name: PGP USER password: PGP This information from: Jim Wenzel <jim.wenzel(a)grapevine.lrk.ar.us> PGP 2.3A has been posted to the FidoNet Software Distribution Network and should soon be up on most if not all Canadian and U.S. nodes carrying SDN software. It has also been posted on almost all of the major private North American BBS systems, thence to countless smaller boards. Consult a list of your local BBSes; most with a sizeable file inventory should carry the program under the filenames listed below. If you find a version of the PGP package on a BBS or FTP site and it does not include the PGP User's Guide, something is wrong. The manual should always be included in the package. If it isn't, the package is suspect and should not be used or distributed. The site you found it on should remove it so that it does no further harm to others. Here is the result of an archie search for pgp: Host gatekeeper.dec.com Location: /.0/BSD/NetBSD/NetBSD-current/src/usr.bin/file/magdir FILE -r--r--r-- 478 Dec 16 23:10 pgp Host hpcsos.col.hp.com Location: /mirrors/.hpib1/NetBSD/NetBSD-current/src/usr.bin/file/magdir FILE -r--r--r-- 478 Dec 17 00:10 pgp Host netcom.com Location: /pub/halliday FILE -rwx------ 212992 Nov 27 20:21 pgp Location: /pub/kevitech FILE -rwxr-xr-x 89643 Dec 3 05:46 pgp Location: /pub/torin DIRECTORY drwx--x--x 4096 Jan 11 18:59 pgp Host quepasa.cs.tu-berlin.de Location: /.4/pub/bsd/386bsd-0.1/unofficial/doc/software FILE -rw-rw-r-- 12121 Feb 2 1993 pgp Host files1zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de Location: /pub/mail DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 1024 Jan 11 1993 pgp Host sun.rz.tu-clausthal.de Location: /pub/atari/misc DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Dec 30 18:56 pgp Host ftp.uni-kl.de Location: /pub1/unix/security DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x 512 Feb 24 1993 pgp Host minnie.zdv.uni-mainz.de Location: /pub/atari/misc DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Dec 30 17:56 pgp Host info1.rus.uni-stuttgart.de Location: /afs/.rus.uni-stuttgart.de/sw/rs_aix32/pgp-2.3/bin FILE -rwxr-xr-x 211318 Aug 23 1993 pgp Host info2.rus.uni-stuttgart.de Location: /afs/rus.uni-stuttgart.de/sw/rs_aix32/pgp-2.3/bin FILE -rwxr-xr-x 211318 Aug 23 1993 pgp Host jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu Location: /pub/public_domain_software/NetBSD/usr/src/usr.bin/file/magdir FILE -rw-r--r-- 478 Jun 9 1993 pgp Host bloom-picayune.mit.edu Location: /pub/usenet-by-hierarchy/alt/security DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x 512 Mar 14 00:17 pgp Host mintaka.lcs.mit.edu Location: /pub DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Jun 18 1993 pgp Host cecelia.media.mit.edu Location: /pub FILE -rw-r--r-- 321424 Nov 30 20:27 pgp Host josquin.media.mit.edu Location: /pub FILE -rw-r--r-- 321424 Nov 30 20:27 pgp Host archive.egr.msu.edu Location: /pub DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Mar 9 18:58 pgp Host xanth.cs.odu.edu Location: /pub DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x 512 Oct 18 00:00 pgp Host arthur.cs.purdue.edu Location: /pub/pcert/tools/unix DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Jul 31 1993 pgp Host f.ms.uky.edu Location: /pub2/NetBSD/NetBSD-current/src/usr.bin/file/magdir FILE -rw-r--r-- 478 Dec 17 02:10 pgp Host dime.cs.umass.edu Location: /pub/rcf/exp/build/pgp-2.3 FILE -rwxr-xr-x 241916 Mar 15 15:42 pgp Location: /pub/rcf/exp/build/pgp-2.3/src FILE -rwxr-xr-x 241916 Mar 15 15:41 pgp Host granuaile.ieunet.ie Location: /ftpmail-cache/ie/tcd/maths/ftp/src/misc DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Dec 2 11:43 pgp Host walton.maths.tcd.ie Location: /src/misc DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 May 30 1993 pgp Location: /src/misc/pgp-2.0/src FILE -rwxr-xr-x 316640 Oct 18 1992 pgp Host cs.huji.ac.il Location: /pub/security DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x 512 Oct 26 19:26 pgp Host ftp.germany.eu.net Location: /pub/comp/msdos/local/utils DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Jul 12 1993 pgp Host csn.org Location: /mpj/public DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Mar 14 20:30 pgp Host isy.liu.se Location: /pub/misc DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x 512 Sep 19 00:00 pgp - -----BEGIN PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- Version: 2.4 mQCNAi0aFSUAAAEEAOCOKpaLepvJCFgIR4m+UvZe0IN8g7Guwc+6GH4u6UGTPxQO iAhk/MJ7E8LE4c55A1G8to2W4y3aKAHvi9QCYKnsLV8Ag0BYWo3bGGTPEfkS7NAI N+Zy6vSjuF1D6MUnbvrQJ5p4efz7a28iYRKoAdan2bfnvIYWUD9nBjyFM+vFAAUR tDdNaWNoYWVsIFBhdWwgSm9obnNvbiA8bXBqQGNzbi5vcmc+IG1wajQgW2V4cCAz MSBEZWMgOTRdiQCVAgUQLTqfXj9nBjyFM+vFAQGU7wP/ZuuHfdAnCIblNCtbLLG8 39CSg6JIVa3KWfe0WIz6dXFU3cvl2Wt094kJgZ+Nmq01INWlib2lTOznbkA9sV1W q0aJSBHFWQH29qGmIdEqThs7A5ES2w8eRjJD80lxHodRIkBcC5KI6x4Mxo8cib5V BrwsvtG0+81HD6Mrpvc+a0GJAJUCBRAtJc2rZXmEuMepZt0BAe4hA/9YANYPY4Z3 1pXv2mT6ReC09cZS5U3+xxC5brQdLsQGKuH6QVs/b5oc6NV84sh8A9tZyHG2067o 3XIEyN7PPQzRm2UUnHHqw9lBCNhMiFQsAJi4W+m8zXrVrpJWK0Wv61eV2/XIQl0V d4lxu0r+MNRP6ID6FBzA4C9rO+RYEZmwOIkAlQIFEC0aGRzb/VZRBVJGuQEBfaUD /3c2h//kg843OIcYHG4gMDqdeeZLzGlp3RVvh0Rs3/T0YylJZGjPL2L/BF/vfLlB 9E2Urh9mDG/7hiB5FncrUnkmN63IkSj+K9YyfPyYxBVx06Srj8ZzYynh0N+zledd 6cnwxRXhaD3Wc4EfSNR7BH9M2rjkGzyb5to9cgBb0ng+ =BLg5 - -----END PGP PUBLIC KEY BLOCK----- ___________________________________________________________ |\ /| | | | | \/ |o| | Michael Paul Johnson Colorado Catacombs BBS 303-938-9654 | | | | / _ | mpj(a)csn.org ftp:csn.org//mpj/README.MPJ for crypto stuff | | |||/ /_\ | aka mpj(a)netcom.com mpjohnson(a)ieee.org mikej(a)exabyte.com | | |||\ ( | m.p.johnso(a)nyx.cs.du.edu CIS 71331,2332 PGP key by finger | | ||| \ \_/ |___________________________________________________________| -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.4 iQCVAgUBLb2GQD9nBjyFM+vFAQGhkAP/SNtm2H+Id/P7ohoBIboe41GVKHWYxAyO I+wopaNMMLKpwQsIk16lFpJFL2HvtanZtJo7A8iIE/cQqzeQ55yaieepnPH6AbJB Mh1o81EywgrOUAp/D05aO6xUNlvSAEPaBe4FutxUacXsRrk4PUS4Upx1kbHCq68O BxcKObtAVhU= =mA3W -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Edupage Extract - Employees & Email
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Somehow, I can understand how sending it to a _supervisor_ would break privacy protections... Crypto relevance? Anonymous remailers can be used for complaints & whistle-blowing. The latter may be unfortunate, depending on the law being enforced. -Allen From: IN%"educom(a)elanor.oit.unc.edu" 11-FEB-1996 21:53:17.72 Subj: Edupage, 11 February 1996 ***************************************************************** Edupage, 11 February 1996. Edupage, a summary of news items on information technology, is provided three times each week as a service by Educom, a Washington, D.C.-based consortium of leading colleges and universities seeking to transform education through the use of information technology. ***************************************************************** JUDGE RULES AGAINST EMPLOYEE IN E-MAIL SNOOPING CASE A federal judge in Philadelphia has ruled against a former employee of the Pillsbury Co. who filed a suit claiming invasion of privacy after his e-mail messages threatening to "kill the backstabbing bastards" and referring to an upcoming party as the "Jim Jones Koolaid affair" were deemed to be inappropriate, unprofessional and offensive, leading to his firing in October 1994. The company had repeatedly assured its employees that all e-mail communications would be kept confidential, but the court found that, "Once plaintiff communicated the alleged unprofessional comments to a second person (his supervisor) over an e-mail system which was apparently utilized by the entire company, any reasonable expectation of privacy was lost." (BNA Daily Labor Report 6 Feb 96 AA1)

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To find the clock speed of a sun workstation
by Ashfaq Rasheed 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi Is there anyway of finding the clock speed of the CPU on a Sun workstation? As far as i know it can be found only by rebooting the machine and using module-info? And I believe that the module-info does a no-op loop for a a known number of times and calculates the time taken. I would like to know if there is anyother way to finding it. Thanks! Ashfaq

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Censorship and Snooping at Winthrop University
by Declan B. McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Following are portions of a message I sent to Winthrop University administrators. They're considering a heinous new policy that says: "No information should be exchanged through E-mail that is not official University business. No personal or confidential information should be exchanged and all communications are subject to periodic and/or random audit by the Office of Information Technology to ensure compliance with this policy." -Declan ---------- Forwarded message begins here ---------- From: Declan McCullagh To: feldern(a)winthrop.edu, broachg(a)winthrop.edu, rosenj(a)winthrop.edu, moressiw(a)winthrop.edu, jonesr(a)winthrop.edu, cormierp(a)winthrop.edu cc: wellsj(a)winthrop.edu, harrisoc(a)lurch.winthrop.edu, browne(a)winthrop.edu, duboisp(a)winthrop.edu, margare946(a)aol.com, fight-censorship+(a)andrew.cmu.edu Subject: Censorship at Winthrop University February 12, 1996 Dear Winthrop University Administrators: I was disturbed to read a recent Associated Press article reporting that Winthrop University has censored the web pages of two of your students and suspended the students from classes after one of them placed nude photographs online. I was even more dimayed to read that your school's proposed computing policy allows university officials to snoop through your students' electronic mailboxes at will. For shame! The American Library Association's draft policy recommendation on electronic services and networks says, on student computer accounts: No user should be restricted or denied access for expressing or receiving constitutionally protected speech. No user's access should be changed without due process, including, but not limited to, notice and a means of appeal. The American Association of University Professors endorsed this statement on academic freedom, published in the July-August 1992 _Academe_, which says in part: On a campus that is free and open, no idea can be banned or forbidden... Free speech is not simply an aspect of the educational enterprise to be weighed against other desirable ends. It is the very precondition of the academic enterprise itself. Regarding your plans to look at student email, more information is available at ftp://ftp.eff.org/pub/CAF/faq/email.privacy, which says: According to Mike Godwin, legal services counsel for the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF), the U.S.'s Electronic Communications Privacy Act (ECPA) could be reasonably construed to protect university email. This is also the reported opinion of the U. of Michigan's lawyers. Also, the U.S.'s Family Educational Rights and Privacy Act gives students at all public and most private schools some privacy rights. According to the AAUP statement and according to the fundamental principles of academic freedom, universities must protect controversial speech on their campuses. If Winthrop University does not, it is violating its historic commitments to free speech and turning its pledges to uphold academic freedom and freedom of expression into broken promises. I've copied this message to the fight-censorship mailing list, which has among its subscribers roughly 50 journalists interested in online censorship issues, including writers from TIME, Newsweek, The New York Times, The Washington Post, Internet World, WIRED, and many others. I invite you to clarify your university's position and respond directly to the mailing list. Cyberspace is developing quickly, and I feel confident that Winthrop University would not want to be known as an online leader in repression, censorship, and Orwellian thought-policing. I trust that a school such as Winthrop University, with such a distinguished College of Education, will not neglect the fundamental principles upon which your university was founded. I hope that you understand that voiceless speech and inkless press must receive the same protections as voiced speech and inked press. I urge you to reconsider your policies. I look forward to your reply. Very truly yours, Declan McCullagh PS: I'm attaching a file from Carl Kadie's Computers and Academic Freedom archive, at http://www.eff.org/CAF/. More information is also available at the Justice on Campus project, at http://joc.mit.edu/. --------------------------------------------------------------------- February 11, 1996 ROCK HILL, S.C. (AP) -- Winthrop students Brian Walker and Josh Campbell have had their university Internet accounts pulled after officials said they violated school policy. Walker created a web page soliciting money and Campbell created one including a nude woman. While the two admitted they crossed the line, the Feb. 2 suspension has risen free speech debates and computer policy review through the school. Both students deleted their web pages, and their two-week suspension was reduced to one. Nathaniel Felder, Winthrop's associate vice president for information technology, said work on amending the computer policy has been ongoing. School officials planned to submit the proposals Friday to Winthrop's board of trustees. But Internet users, particularly professors and students, thought the new policy included language that infringed on their rights and violated their freedom of speech. So, the policy will be forwarded to a computer committee for further review. Professors and students opposed language in the policy that said e-mail be used only for official university business. The policy also allows officials to randomly audit e-mail for compliance. ``It could be a violation of the principles of the free change of ideas at the university,'' political science professor Glen Broach said. But Bob Thompson, Winthrop's board chairman, said Internet policy is to protect the users and Winthrop from liability. =============== ftp://ftp.eff.org/pub/CAF/faq/computer-porn =============== q: Should universities create a rule banning "porn" on university computers? a: In my opinion, no. Such a rule would be unnecessary and too broad. [Disclaimers: I'm not a lawyer. This answer is based on the situation in the U.S.] A computer porn ban is too broad because "pornography" is not a well-defined term. For many people, "pornography" means any nude or sexually suggestive material. While you may intend only to stop computer-science students from looking at _Playboy_ centerfolds in your computer labs, your rule may also stop liberal-arts students from viewing the growing number of fine art collections on the Net. For example, 2,800 images are on-line at the Australian National University ANU. Among these images is a print of Manet's "Olympia" Olympia. When this now famous nude was unveiled in 1863, it caused an outrage because of its blatant sexuality. Hundreds of images are also available at the WebMuseum The WebMuseum. Among these images is Salvador Dali's shocking "Young Virgin Autosodomised by her own Chastity" <a href="http://www.emf.net/wm/paint/auth/dali/works/dali.virgin.jpg">Virgin </a>. Either of these images could be used to sexually harass someone, but so could many noncomputer images on your campus such as art on the University's walls and the _Playboy_ centerfolds that are likely in your university library. A rule banning computer porn is unnecessary because university computer facilities can (and should) be treated as ny other university facility. That means banning the act of harassment, not the materials that can be used to harass but that can also be used without harassing anyone. Similar reasoning was used by a federal district judge in June 1994. In the widely reported case, he said that "quiet reading" of a _Playboy_ magazine by a firefighter does not create a sexually harassing atmosphere. At least in the U.S., virtually every university has a sexual harassment policy that not only covers harassment via computers but that also dictates the exact procedure for handling sexual harassment complaints. (Having a procedure is important because the line between constitutionally protected expression and unprotected expression is dim and uncertain.) Computer sites should publicize the university's sexual harassment rules; they should not try to preempt them. See the referenced U. of Illinois report on the Status of Women for concrete suggestions on publicizing your existing sexual harassment rules. So what about material that may be illegal in your jurisdiction, for example libel, threats, obscenity-in-the-legal-sense, copyright violations, etc.? Many university computer policies include the "Law Law", that is, the rule that says that it is forbidden to violate the law. This is not quite as redundant as it may seem because it authorizes the University to handle infractions itself via its established due process procedure. - Carl Kadie ANNOTATED REFERENCES (All these documents are available on-line. Access information follows.) =================<a href="http://www.eff.org/CAF/faq/censorship-and-harassment.html"> faq/censorship-and-harassment =================</a> * Censorship And Harassment q: Must/should universities ban material that some find offensive (from Netnews facilities, email, libraries, and student publications, etc) in order to comply with antiharassment laws? a: No. U.S. federal courts have said that harassing speech is ... =================<a href="ftp://ftp.eff.org/pub/CAF/law/quiet-reading"> law/quiet-reading =================</a> * Expression -- Harassment -- Quiet Reading of _Playboy_ Excerpts from a newspaper report that a federal district judge has said that "quiet reading" of a _Playboy_ magazine by a firefighter does not create a sexually harassing atmosphere. [Editorial comment: I think this supports the idea that rather banning "porn" from a general academic computer, it is more appropriate to ban harassment.] =================<a href="ftp://ftp.eff.org/pub/CAF/academic/women-in-eng.uiuc.txt"> academic/women-in-eng.uiuc.txt =================</a> ASCII (plain text version) of "Final Report of the Committee on the Status of Women Graduate Students and Faculty in the College of Engineering" at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. (Also available in TeX and Postscript form.) =================<a href="ftp://ftp.eff.org/pub/CAF/academic/artistic.freedom.aaup"> academic/artistic.freedom.aaup =================</a> * Artistic Freedom (AAUP) Academic Freedom and Artistic Expression - An official statement of the American Association of University Professors (AAUP) It says in part: "In our judgment academic freedom in the creation and presentation of works in the visual and performing arts, by ensuring greater opportunity for imaginative exploration and expression, best serves the public and the academy." =================<a href="ftp://ftp.eff.org/pub/CAF/library/challenged-materials.ala"> library/challenged-materials.ala =================</a> * Challenged Materials (ALA) An interpretation by the American Library Association of the "Library Bill of Rights". It says in part "The Constitution requires a procedure designed to focus searchingly on challenged expression before it can be suppressed. An adversary hearing is a part of this procedure." =================<a href="ftp://ftp.eff.org/pub/CAF/law/miller"> law/miller =================</a> * Expression -- Obscenity -- Law -- Miller The Supreme Court's definition of obscenity (the so-called _Miller_ test) ================= ================= If you have gopher, you can browse the CAF archive with the command gopher gopher.eff.org These document(s) are also available by anonymous ftp (the preferred method) and by email. To get the file(s) via ftp, do an anonymous ftp to ftp.eff.org, and then: cd /pub/CAF/faq get censorship-and-harassment cd /pub/CAF/law get quiet-reading cd /pub/CAF/academic get women-in-eng.uiuc.txt cd /pub/CAF/academic get artistic.freedom.aaup cd /pub/CAF/library get challenged-materials.ala cd /pub/CAF/law get miller To get the file(s) by email, send email to ftpmail(a)decwrl.dec.com Include the line(s): connect ftp.eff.org cd /pub/CAF/faq get censorship-and-harassment cd /pub/CAF/law get quiet-reading cd /pub/CAF/academic get women-in-eng.uiuc.txt cd /pub/CAF/academic get artistic.freedom.aaup cd /pub/CAF/library get challenged-materials.ala cd /pub/CAF/law get miller

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Re: The Emotional Killer (or out of the frying pan and into the electric chair?)
by Bruce Baugh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

This is off-topic; anyone wanting to follow up on it, e-mail me on the side. At 11:59 PM 2/11/96 -0500, tallpaul(a)pipeline.com (tallpaul) wrote: >This and other posts by J. Bell and other lib'bers Jim Bell is pretty much exactly as relevant to libertarian thought as Lyndon LaRouche is to Democratic thought - that is, he's a crank, whom we prefer to ignore where possible. I, for one, filter his messages straight to Eudora's Trash mailbox. If you want to sample a different variety of libertarianism, check out the URL in my sig file and look at the Christlib list. Or, for that matter, simply leaf through REASON and LIBERTY magazine, and note the variety of folks actually _doing_ things that promote "human freedom for everyone" as well as talking about it. It's not as much fun as ad hominem, I admit, but in the long run I think it's more useful. Bruce Baugh bruce(a)aracnet.com http://www.aracnet.com/~bruce

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Firewall USA to Firewall China
by sophi＠best.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At the meeting on saturday the idea of a Firewall USA was discussed. Here's a quote from Jim Clark CEO of Netscape on the idea of a Firewall China, just for comparison. Q: The Chinese government has declared its intention to filter out what it considers to be objectionable material from the Internet. If you were a consultant for the Chinese government, what technology would you recommend that they use to do that? A: A lot of people think that's not possible. It's difficult to enforce, but it's certainly possible. A corporation has a so-called fire wall -- a single point of entry into the corporate net. You can have a country that has a single point of entry into its "country net." It's doable. All you need, though, is one breach of security, and there's a leak. A fire wall is a filter -- it filters and doesn't let certain people come in. You can only come in if you have the right permission. So you could easily set that up so that it would filter out your objectionable material. this is a temp .sig

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cypherpunks t shirts, anymore?
by Oscar Boykin 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I know someone that got bought a black sypherpunks t shirt with warning strong crypto on it. Are there any more of these? I would like to purchase a large. Please contact me if you know anything. oscar boykin mailto:boykin@pobox.com http://pobox.com/~boykin home: 404-206-0477

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