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"Security risks" vs. "credit risks"
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The news that airports/airlines (more on this difference in a bit) may be establishing a data base of security risks sounds Big Brotherish. But, how is it so much different from credit risks and credit reporting data bases? If, for example, private airlines (and the U.S. has only private airlines, not any "public" or "national" airline) wish to check the data bases on their customers, is this not quite similar to checking credit risks and ratings before lending money? There is great danger, to be sure, especially if one's writings and public utterances become entries into a "threat data base." But I see nothing unsurprising in, say, American Airlines expressing more interest in Jim Bell or Tim May, both of whom have written publically about terrorism and "soft targets," and both of whom have written about how to make pipe bombs, than in Marianne Smith, retired school teacher from Peoria. And there is even more danger--even unconstitutionality--in *government involvement* in such data bases. It's unclear from what I've seen if this data base is to be run like the private credit ratings agencies or if it is to have inputs from the FBI, NSA, Interpol, SDECE, etc. Remember, private airlines are just that: private. Surely we do not support laws which limit a private airline from using data it has acquired to decide whom to pay closer attention to. This is the essence of what knowledge is. (So long as none of this is mandatory. If Tim's Pretty Good Airline wishes to not bother screening customers, this should not be illegal. Nor, to my mind, should TPGA be exposed to negligence lawsuits, so long as his policies are clearly spelled out.) I find the notion that one's speeches and Usenet utterances could "harm one's security rating" a distasteful idea, but so long as such security ratings are handled by private players, and used by private players, I see no illegality. (Of course, the major credit reporting agencies--TRW Credit, Equifax, and TransUnion--already collude with the government. They collude to falsify credit ratings, to create identies and histories that never existed when they say they did, and to provide government with data bases for various purposes. Obviously a "TRW Security" function would be at least as corrupt, maybe more so.) --Tim May We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Mail OnNet
by Joel McNamara 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In my never-ending search for the perfect PGP e-mail client, I just stumbled on to a beta of a product put out by FTP Software called Mail OnNet. Unlike the Pronto Secure and Pegasus, this client actually has PGP code (licensed from PGP Inc.) built directly in. No shelling out to DOS! Very nice interface and almost complete idiot-proof encrypting/decrypting/signing. Extremely powerful rules based processing too. Check out: http://www.ftp.com/mkt_info/onnet32/try.htm IMHO, this is getting very close to transparent secure e-mail for the masses. Joel Two notes. (1) It only runs under Win95 and NT. (2) It's ITAR restricted.

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RE: Desubscribe
by Johnny Eriksson 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Whoever uses the term "spam" in a non-derogratory manor is an > arsehole and deserves to be shipped to sweden where they shall be > made into cheese by nuns. No thanks, we do not want them. --Johnny "A government that fears its citizens -- should"

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wardialer
by patrickbc＠juno.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Does any body know where I can get a half decent war dialer.

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Re: BoS: Re: your mail
by drose＠AZStarNet.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Jan Koum wrote: > Well, I think we all seen and heard what type of people use >phrases like: "Thank You for your cooperation". Yowsuh! We sho' nuffs be all done seen 'em. Stanford, hmm?

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mailing lists
by patrickbc＠juno.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

If any body knows any good mailings lists please tell me. -P. Cummings- Patrickbc(a)juno.com

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Re: PGP Comments Considered Occasionally Harmful Re: Pronto making a comment
by Adamsc＠io-online.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Sat, 31 Aug 1996 01:44:15 -0700, stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com wrote: >>> How did you get Pronto to do a comment? >>I added a "comment=" in my config.txt ;) ... the old fashionned way. >... >>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >>Version: 2.6.3i >>Charset: ascii >>Comment: http://www.cyberbeach.net/~mbabcock/PGP/ > >Note that the comment makes traffic analysis much easier. >Sure, you can send your mail through five different remailers, >but if each layer of PGP has your home page URL or some other >distinctive Comment:, it's traceable. OTOH, a signature has your distinctive key-id anyway. - "'Anonymity is bad,' says a source who wishes to remain anonymous." - Nuff' said. * Home: Chris Adams <adamsc(a)io-online.com> | http://www.io-online.com/adamsc/adamsc.htp * Autoresponder: send email w/subject of "send resume" or "send PGPKEY" * Work: cadams(a)acucobol.com | V.M. (619)515-4894 | (619)689-6579 * Member in good standing of the GNU whirled hors d'oeuvre

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Bob Dole on Drugs
by ichudov＠algebra.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://allpolitics.com/news/9608/31/radio.addresses/ ... snip ... Dole, who returned to Washington for Labor Day weekend, also pledged to use the White House as a bully pulpit to promote the "moral message" against drugs and to criticize what he called the entertainment industry's glamorization of drug use. On Sunday, he is to address the convention of the National Guard Association of the United States during which he's expected to propose that the military be enlisted to assist in a renewed war on drugs.

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Esther Dyson on Remailers
by P. J. Ponder 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

pretty grim reading in the LA Times article if that is really the EFF position on remailers. could someone straighten this out, or at least give us the EFF's view of why remailers are a bad thing? with friends like that, who needs enemies? --------------- So long, Julf - Thank you for a valuable public service! Best of luck to you! -- to unsubscribe, mail to majordomo(a)toad.com a message that reads: unsubscribe cypherpunks (in the message body, not subject line).

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Hacker list information
by agt387465＠blackhel.fbi.gov 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Patrick: I am interested in a copy of your mailing list. Thank you. David Pfeiffer

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