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Cypherpunks Death Penalty for "take me of" messages?
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 1:08 AM 4/18/96, Leslie Farnsworth wrote: >take me of your emailing list She (or he) can't even spell "off." This clown also sent me the same message privately, so anything done to her or him is only fair.. The Cypherpunks Death Penalty? --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^756839 - 1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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BIOS, FBI/ERF, Barbara Boxer,
by bill payne 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Tuesday 3/17/98 6:29 AM Charles Christopher, FBI/NY http://www.fbi.gov/fo/nyfo/nytwa.htm John Gilmore Christopher, I received a phone call Monday morning. The caller asked me to modify my resume to reflect my experience with PC BIOS. I added the following lines. Attended Annabooks University week-long course on ROMing BIOS in 1992. Sixteen years experience interfacing high-level languages to BIOS. Reverse engineering BIOS and DOS for Sandia Labs weapons controller. Custom BIOS modifications experience for electronic locks for the FBI/Engineering Research Facility using Pentium processors. The FBI paid my course tuition for the Annabooks course. http://www.annabooks.com/ I learned several months after Sandia manager Tommy Sellers, who was entering the crypto business, and ombudsman Harvey Brewster gave me a directed transfer to break electronic locks for the FBI that the FBI DOES NOT GET COURT ORDERS to do normally illegal work. The FBI my FBI/ERF supervisors, Mike Uttaro, and his boss Mike McDevitt told me that they believe that the above work is CLASSIFIED SECRET. http://www.fbi.gov/ I think that we should get this matter settled before it GETS WORSE. Gilmore, I saw at http://www.jya.com/acp-pols.htm BOXER CONTINUES EFFORTS TO OPPOSE U.S. EXPORT LIMITS ON COMPUTER ENCRYPTION March 4, 1998 WASHINGTON, D.C. -- U.S. Senator Barbara Boxer (D-CA) joined Americans for Computer Privacy and a delegation of bipartisan lawmakers at a news conference today to oppose U.S. export limits on encryption technology. The following is Senator Boxers statement. Since the high-tech revolution, Americans have learned that privacy protection is of the utmost importance. Encryption technology is a key component in protecting our privacy - it is the lock on the door that guarantees not only our privacy, but often our safety as well. Boxer also is known for the following quote Those who survived the San Francisco earthquake said, Thank God, Im still alive. But, of course, those who died, their lives will never be the same again. - Representative Barbara Boxer, after the 1994 [sic] earthquake Weird History 101 John Richard Stephens http://www/adamsmedia.com Sandian Ron Pate and I were seated in a SF airport satellite area during that earthquake. Pate and I worked on electronic tagging for the CTBT. This used public key crypto. I used the Cylink CY1024 for that project. Electronic locks are mostly connected to Pcs. The PC keeps both a printed record and disk log entrys. Electronic lock programmers do not and cannot rewrite an operating system. Therefore, the simplest way to defeat an electronic lock is to modify BIOS. Intercept the electronic lock programmer call to BIOS, look for a known credential, open the door, and suppress the writes to printer and disk. Not too tough to do. But I was told to modify MANY SYSTEMS which I could NOT DO. Hirsch, CardKey, Sensor engineering, .... I was being set up to fail. Looks like your legal stuff is paying off in political support. Lets hope we get this crypto mess settled so that we can all move on to more constructive projects. Later bill

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Re: EFF/Bernstein Press Release
by Mark Neely 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Well, that puts legislation making virus authoring a crime into a new (and difficult) position. Mark ___ Mark Neely - accessnt(a)ozemail.com.au Lawyer, Internet Consultant, Professional Cynic Author: Australian Beginner's Guide to the Internet Work-in-Progress: Australian Business Guide to the Internet WWW: http://www.ozemail.com.au/~accessnt

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Re: why compression doesn't perfectly even out entropy
by JonWienke＠aol.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Is it possible to find a percentage of the key space to eliminate that >will optimize security assuming that the attacker will try the easy >stuff first (and is it possible to quantify "easy stuff")? If you eliminate all repeating byte sequences, such as 00 00 or 7F 7F, you will reduce your possible entropy by .07058% (7.99435 bits per byte), and eliminate the (astronomically remote) possibility of Hamlet or some other English text popping out of your RNG/PRNG. As long as your key is long enough to withstand this slight entropy reduction, you are still OK.

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NYT on Bernstein Suit
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

http://www.nytimes.com/library/cyber/week/0418suit.html

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Welcome to Express!
by Express 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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CDA Court Challenge: Update #8 (Last Day of Testimony)
by Declan B. McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

----------------------------------------------------------------------------- The CDA Challenge, Update #8 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- By Declan McCullagh / declan(a)well.com / Redistribute freely ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- In this update: BYU/CMU's Olsen testifies that "-L18" won't harm the Net Judges realize Olsen is a weasel Chief Judge Sloviter's incisive questions Who is Donna Rice? A DoJ attorney can't stop laughing... Closing arguments now set for May 10 April 18, 1996 PHILADELPHIA -- The U.S. Department of Justice doesn't like the way the Communications Decency Act is written. During the the testimony that ended April 15 in Philadelphia's Federal court, we've started to see the DoJ's legal strategy emerge -- and it includes attempts to redefine the CDA. The DoJ's star witness was the amazingly prudish Dan "I'm offended by four-letter words" Olsen, who said that his plan to have service providers card users and tag 'em as adults or minors is a fabulous way to go. But this shifts the burden of protecting kids from smut onto ISPs, a proposal that Congress rejected when they included "good faith" defenses in the law. Olsen, who will fit in just fine when he takes a job this summer as an administrator at censorhappy Carnegie Mellon University, also kept pushing the other half of his plan that would require all "patently offensive" online content be tagged "-L18." On Monday, the DoJ's very own attack-ferret Jason Baron asked Olsen: "Your proposal would not have an adverse effect on the Net as a whole? Olsen deadpanned: "Absolutely not!" This isn't surprising. To Olsen, the Internet is just a bunch of geeks who want to keep everyone else out of their own little world. When U.S. Third Circuit Court of Appeals Chief Judge Dolores Sloviter asked him if his "-L18" system would develop side-by-side with PICS, Olsen replied: "If technical people were left to themselves, it would be likely to happen. I don't think this is true here. Internet people don't like other people telling them what to do. They're afraid of the FCC. They don't want anyone else messing in their pond." +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ JUDGES REALIZE OLSEN IS A WEASEL +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ Even the judges could tell that Olsen is a weasel. The three judges hearing our challenge to the CDA were unsympathetic to the Brigham Young University computer scientist and pinned him down for almost an hour as he tried to slime away from direct questions. Judge Stewart Dalzell is the most net-savvy judge on the panel and the only one with young kids, so I'm guessing they're helping him to grok the Net. He asked Olsen what would happen if U.S. citizens automatically cache overseas material, including "indecent" files. Again Olsen tried to weasel away from the hypothetical, but Dalzell would have none of it: "You assumed away my question." The DoJ witness grumpily admitted: "I'd turn the cache off." Some of Dalzell's questions were stellar: "Assume a chat group is talking about the CDA -- students from 13 to 18. In the course of the chat, an 18-year-old is exasperated and types in 'Fuck the CDA.' Is it your proposal that he should tag that '-L18?'" Not hesitating, Olsen said: "Yes." On the fight-censorship mailing list I maintain, Mark Stein writes: Judge Dalzell was paraphrasing closely from Cohen v. California, a seminal case in which the Supreme Court overturned the conviction of a man who was arrested for wearing a jacket with "Fuck The Draft" painted on the back. This Olsen fellow's a government witness, you say? Sounds like he's working for us. Some of Dalzell's other questions were equally fab: "If in one issue of the Economist the word 'fuck' appears, the library [putting it online] would have to go through the entire text of the issue?" Olsen replied: "Somebody would have to make this screening. Somebody would have to make this judgement." (Later he invented the idea of libraries banding together to pool resources to make these decisions. I could feel the hackles of the American Library Association folks rising. I swear, Olsen makes up these mind-fucks on the fly.) Remember Judge Buckwalter? I wrote about him in my first CDA Update, saying that he was the least comfortable with our cybersuit: In an incomprehensible decision last month, Judge Ronald Buckwalter granted us only a _partial_ restraining order preventing the Feds from enforcing the CDA. Now he's justifying his original mistake by taking a critical stance during this hearing... Buckwalter has come around. Last Friday his comments indicated he was starting to understand the issue. His questions to Olsen on Monday showed that he finally "gets it": Q: If the creator of the material doesn't buy into your system, it creates a big problem... Does this mean plaintiff's proposal makes more sense? A: No. There are different types of proposals... Q: On your declaration, determining which are adults, you don't address economic claims? A: I only address if it's technically possible. +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ CHIEF JUDGE SLOVITER'S INCISIVE QUESTIONS +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ Chief Judge Sloviter's questions were the most incisive -- like Dalzell, she admitted to doing a bit of out-of-court net surfing. She asked Olsen if "children would be blocked from accessing parts of museum collections?" Olsen admitted they would. Some other questions from Sloviter: Q: Would [your -L18 proposal] contain the seeds that the government can do the blocking? Once everything is tagged as -L18, would that facilitate any one entity saying this material should not go out on the Internet? A: Possibly. Q: Can you think of any time in our history where we have blocked material in advance? A: Yes, every editor in every newspaper does this every day. Q: But in an organized manner? A: Every editor in every newspaper does this every day. The EFF's Mike Godwin says: That Sloviter asked this question is incredibly important -- it shows that she recognizes that compliance with the Communications Decency Act would amount to a complex system of prior restraints. Even among those who disagree strongly about the scope of the First Amendment, there is little disagreement about the general prohibition of prior restraints on publication -- the only generally acknowledged exception to this prohibition is the "national security" exception (publication of troop movements during time of war and the like). In previous obscenity/indecency cases, it has long been established that prior restraints on publication are impermissible. The strangest point of the day came after Olsen testified that a PICS-style third-party rating system would "slow the flow." (This was a snide reference to Vanderbilt Professor Donna Hoffman's testimony about how uninterrupted "flow" was important while web-surfing.) Sloviter then asked him how an adult would show -L18 tagged materials to a mature child. Olsen replied that a "teacher or parent could log on." Sloviter parried: "Wouldn't that slow the flow?" At this point, Olsen began to discharge a series of short, staccato bursts of high-pitched giggles, sounding like a rabbit being tortured to death. Damnedest thing I ever saw. The audience stared in horror. Basically, the DoJ fucked up with this witness. Olsen was such a censorhappy nut and so delighted with his "-L18" scheme that the court realized it went too far -- that it was obviously unconstitutional. In other words, he was our best witness. +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ WHO IS DONNA RICE? A DOJ ATTORNEY CAN'T STOP LAUGHING... +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ I would have loved to have been in Washington, DC when Grey Flannel Suit -- AKA AFSADAFOSICCI* Howard Schmidt -- was deposed on April 1. Imagine an entire business day filled with nothing but talk of cyberporn, with everyone trying to be serious and lawyerly. Some representative samples, from page 244 of Grey Flannel's deposition: A: The next one, the same [screen] with panties.jpg reflects the image that appears on the screen after clicking on Panties. A: The next one, the same [screen] with boobs.jpg reflects the image that appears on the screen after clicking on Boobs. A: And the next one is cunnilingus.jpg, which reflects the image that comes onto the screen by clicking on Cunnilingus. But my fave part was when former party girl and ex-No Excuses jeans model Donna Rice-Hughes was mentioned. In the past year, Rice-Hughes has leveraged her fame from the Gary Hart presidential campaign into a budding career as a morality crusader at the anti-porn group "Enough is Enough!" Read on for an excerpt from page 282 of Grey Flannel's deposition... Q: Are you acquainted with Kathleen Cleaver? A: No, I'm not. Q: Have you ever heard that name? A: It does not ring a bell, no. Q: Are you acquainted with Bruce Taylor? A: Not that I'm aware of, no. Q: Are you acquainted with Donna Rice? A: The name Donna Rice rings a bell it seems, but I don't know from what. [The ACLU attorneys and Pat Russotto from the DoJ can't stop laughing.] DoJ's Tony Coppolino: "I'll explain later." ACLU's Margorie Heins: "It's a honest answer." ACLU's Chris Hansen: "Even Pat couldn't remain serious through that." DoJ's Tony Coppolino, trying again: "I'll explain later!" * AFSADAFOSICCI = Air Force Special Agent, Director of the Air Force Office of Special Investigations, Computer Crime Investigations +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ CLOSING ARGUMENTS NOW SET FOR MAY 10 +-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+-=-+ The closing arguments for our case now are scheduled for May 10, with April 29 as the deadline for submitting our findings of fact and conclusions of law -- a lengthy collection of documents that will include everything we believe we've proved in our case. (Closing arguments were pushed up to early May since we didn't feel a need to call any rebuttal witnesses. After all, we had Olsen!) Our attorneys and the DoJ each will present two hours of closing arguments on May 10, though the timeframe is flexible. The three-judge panel likely will issue a decision three or four weeks later, and appeals will go directly to the Supreme Court. What will the Philly court decide? Bruce Taylor, the president of the National Law Center for Children and Families, told me that he's "confident" the court will uphold the indecency portions of the CDA. However, the former Federal prosecutor said he's "worried that the court may accept some of the technical or infeasibility arguments" against the law. I'm sure we'll talk more about it on May 9, when I'll be on a panel at the University of Pennsylvania with Taylor and Cathy Cleaver. Fortunately, one of the strongest aspects of our case is that we're correct. Stay tuned for more reports. ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- We're back in court on May 10 for closing arguments. Quote of the Day: "We teach them proper principles and let them govern themselves." -Prophet Joseph Smith Mentioned in this CDA update: CDA Update #6, with details on Dan Olsen's "-L18" proposal: <http://fight-censorship.dementia.org/fight-censorship/dl?num=2143> Brock Meeks on 4/12 and 4/15 hearings: <http://www.hotwired.com/netizen/96/16/index1a.html> Mark Eckenwiler's report on the recent CDA forum at Cornell University: <http://fight-censorship.dementia.org/fight-censorship/dl?num=2226> CDA forum at the University of Pennsylvania, scheduled for May 9: <http://dolphin.upenn.edu/~fatf/cda-forum.html> IETF draft of "Internet Philosophy" article: <ftp://ds.internic.net/internet-drafts/draft-iab-principles-02.txt> Net-Guru David Reed's article: "CDA may pervert Internet architecture": <http://fight-censorship.dementia.org/fight-censorship/dl?num=2093> Censored by the CDA <http://www.iuma.com/Cyborgasm/> Dan Olsen at BYU <http://www.cs.byu.edu/info/drolsen.html> Fight-Censorship list <http://fight-censorship.dementia.org/top/> BYU's censorship policy <http://advance.byu.edu/pc/releases/guidelines.html> Rimm ethics critique <http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~declan/rimm/> Int'l Net-Censorship <http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~declan/zambia/> CMU net-censorship <http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~kcf/censor/> University censorship <http://joc.mit.edu/> Grey Flannel Suit <howardas(a)aol.com> Carl Kadie's CAF site <http://www.eff.org/CAF/> Blue Ribbon T-Shirts <http://www.fqa.com/romana/blueribbon.html> This report and previous CDA Updates are available at: <http://fight-censorship.dementia.org/top/> <http://www.eff.org/pub/Legal/Cases/EFF_ACLU_v_DoJ/> <http://www.epic.org/free_speech/censorship/lawsuit/> To subscribe to the fight-censorship mailing list for future CDA updates and related discussions, send "subscribe" in the body of a message addressed to: fight-censorship-request(a)andrew.cmu.edu Other relevant web sites: <http://www.eff.org/> <http://www.aclu.org/> <http://www.cdt.org/> <http://www.ala.org/> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Cybercash vs Mark Twain Digicash?
by Christian Odhner 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hello. I've been off the list for quite a while now, so I'm not up to date on the current ecash schemes. My company (a major internet service provider with a lot of web advertising clients) is looking into which digital cash method would be best to support for use on our customer's web pages. The head of the web department has taken a look at several, and is torn between Mark Twain's stuff and Cybercash. I was wondering if people who have looked at these systems could give me a rundown on the major differences. I know that Mark Twain is nice and secure (or at least I *think* I know that) but Cybercash is signifigantly easier to use. Any comments would be welcome, and to keep list volume down (I assume it's still as busy as ever) I'd be happy to recieve replies via direct email, and sumarize for the list. Happy Hunting, -Chris Odhner - GoodNet -

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Re: Police tactics question
by E. ALLEN SMITH 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: IN%"reagle(a)mit.edu" "Joseph M. Reagle Jr." 7-MAY-1996 15:31:28.97 > Also, I'll stick in a plug for a paper I wrote a year ago for Mitch >Kapor's "Political Economy of the Digital Infrastructure" class at the Media >Lab: >Entrapment in Cyberspace -- On The Likelihood of Digital Stings >http://farnsworth.mit.edu/~reagle/career/stuff/sting.html Actually, I found that one also. Nice things, web search robots. Thanks, -Allen

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unscribe
by steven farr 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

unscribe sfarr.SAF(a)worldnet.att.net please take me off your mailing list Steven A Farr

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