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Re: CYPHERPUNK considered harmful.
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Responding to msg by unicorn(a)polaris.mindport.net (Black Unicorn) on Sun, 17 Sep 6:39 PM >If some other 'punks want to get together and fund such >projects, I will participate. However, putting the >burden of financing this venture (which will have no >immediate economic return, as I will support no venture >which does not result in fully public software) What are the prospects of privacy-enhancing programing funded by contributors for non-commercial, non-governmental, "fully public software?" I would tithe, modestly but durably, to such work if I believed the promise. They call me Ishmael Sixpack. John Gilmore's (and others'?) underwriting toad is impressive. Along with the voluntary (?) effort of Hugh Daniels (and others, I don't know how toad survives). What else might be done cypherpunk-wise if material resources were available? And under what conditions and arrangements? The discussion of Mixmaster commercialization is instructive. And Julf's and the other remailers survivability and longevity in the face of attacks. How could the contributions be made without contaminating the product? No joke. Or, are only individually initiated and self-funded programs trustworthy, when all is said and done? And no planned program as rewarding as the eclectic irregulated. And bartering and bickering and rending and mending the only reputable method of exchange of the tumultuous souk.

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Re: FAX Encryption Software
by NSCEE＠aurora.nscee.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

FYI: This was posted to a slew of Usenet newsgroups. Unless I've missed something, which "CRYPTO-STRONG" package has ever been "licensed" by the "U.S. Department of Commerce"? Does anybody have more info on this product or the good folks behind it? ===================================================================== Originally posted by: clav(a)deltanet.com >ANYONE FOR A CRYPTO-STRONG, YET EASY TO USE FAX/EMAIL SECURITY >SOFTWARE PACKAGE FOR BUSINESS OR OTHER USE??? > >Aliroo Ltd. has developed a Windows, eye-to-eye fax/email >encryption package called PrivaSoft. > >Unlike any previously devised system, this method protects, with >only 4 mouse clicks, fax and email transmissions in electronic >and even paper form - FROM THE TIME YOU CREATE A MESSAGE UNTIL IT >IS READ - NOT JUST WHEN YOUR FAX IS BEING TRANSMITTED. > >You can encrypt a message, and then fax or email it (via plain >old standard fax machine or fax modem), print it to paper or save >to a disk file. > >It is fully licensed, without restriction for export, by the U.S. >Department of Commerce. NO PGP WORRIES. > >Email me for a free copy which will be sent to you via email or >snail mail post. It is fully functional (not crippleware) and >enables you to try our system out before purchase with 8 free >page scrambles. It retails for $130 per installed computer. >Looking for end users and distributors. > >Thanks, >David

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Re: Joe Sixpack and his TV
by rah＠shipwright.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>(...It's better exposure >than five seconds of Tim with Connie Chung.) Connie: "So it's really true that you're an anarchist? That you believe that semi-*automatic weapons* and strong *cryptography* should be *freely* available to *everyone*? and that strong cryptography on a *public* network like the *internet* will bring about the collapse of nation states all over the *world*?" Tim: "Yes." Connie: "But, what about *democracy*? What the will of the *people*?" Tim: "What about them?" A little more than 5 seconds, but I believe that captures her inflection pretty nicely, don't you think? Cheers, Bob Hettinga ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Shipwright Development Corporation, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA (617) 323-7923 "Reality is not optional." --Thomas Sowell >>>>Phree Phil: Email: zldf(a)clark.net http://www.netresponse.com/zldf <<<<<

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Re: FAX Encryption Software
by acollier＠crl.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

clav(a)deltanet.com wrote: >ANYONE FOR A CRYPTO-STRONG, YET EASY TO USE FAX/EMAIL SECURITY >SOFTWARE PACKAGE FOR BUSINESS OR OTHER USE??? >Aliroo Ltd. has developed a Windows, eye-to-eye fax/email >encryption package called PrivaSoft. >Unlike any previously devised system, this method protects, with >only 4 mouse clicks, fax and email transmissions in electronic >and even paper form - FROM THE TIME YOU CREATE A MESSAGE UNTIL IT >IS READ - NOT JUST WHEN YOUR FAX IS BEING TRANSMITTED. >You can encrypt a message, and then fax or email it (via plain >old standard fax machine or fax modem), print it to paper or save >to a disk file. >It is fully licensed, without restriction for export, by the U.S. >Department of Commerce. NO PGP WORRIES. Also no worries about security - if DOC says you can have it, you can bet that NSA has seen to it that it is cryptographically weak, or else uses a key escrow system (where sombody else can get to the keys), and as insecure as any other non-published method. For all we know, they may be using a cereal box decoder ring set up. >Email me for a free copy which will be sent to you via email or >snail mail post. It is fully functional (not crippleware) and >enables you to try our system out before purchase with 8 free >page scrambles. It retails for $130 per installed computer. >Looking for end users and distributors. >Thanks, >David

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Central Banking for the 21st Century -- Thurs 28Sep, San Fran
by John Gilmore 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The Pacific Research Forum, a local libertarian economics group, is sponsoring a talk by Dr. Jerry L. Jordan, president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Cleveland and Dr. Donald T. Brash, governor of the Reserve Bank of New Zealand, with moderator Dr. William S. Haraf, director of public policy for BofA. The forum is 3:30-5PM at the Banker's Club, 555 California St, 51st floor, SF. The reception is 5PM-6PM. It costs $25; RSVP to Cindy Sparks at +1 415 989 0833. "Central banks were originally intended to bring price stability to a paper-based bank payments system. But what will be the proper role of a central bank in the rapidly approaching era of digital money? What happens to monetary policy, supervision and regulation, as well as financial services such as clearning checks, when electronically- initiated debits and credits become the transaction of choice?" ..."Dr. Jordan predicts that ... the proliferation of digital money will provide new challenges for central banks laboring to provide stable money." I'll probably see you there... -- John Gilmore gnu(a)toad.com -- gnu(a)eff.org Don't introduce that Tsutomu to your girlfriend.

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Joe Sixpack and his TV
by s675570＠aix2.uottawa.ca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

If Mr. & Mrs J. Sixpack seem to know zilch at present about strong or any other other kind of crypto, would it maybe, possibly have to do with a lack of exposure to it on the soap operas of their favorite media, ie TV? Hmmm. The general level of paranoia on X-Files (100 milion viewers all over the world, rabid internet following) is even higher than on this list, and the usual discussions on this list would read like a free vacation to their scriptwriters and researchers. Anyone have any scriptwriting skills? 100 million potential subscribers to toad are stake... (Yes I guess then we'd have to move to usenet distribution. But think how entertaining our flames wars would become. Yes I'm definitely calling for it, and the big house with the hot tub would be nice too. Only half joking. Honestly though, anyone want to find out their email addreses and send out a gratis subscription to toad? A script would be nice too. It's better exposure than five seconds of Tim with Connie Chung.)

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Re: Netscape SSL implementation cracked!
by jis＠mit.edu 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >Makes one wonder what the seed is on a Windows implementation... >If it's only the time, you can probably approximate what the >clock is set to within a couple of minutes (if the timezone of the >client is known). Who cares what the timezone of the client is. Try searching around in all 24 timezones. The trick with predicting a random number generator isn't that you have to get the exact key, you just have to narrow the search space to something reasonable. A couple of minutes times 24 isn't that bad! -Jeff -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMF0SvMUtR20Nv5BtAQEAVQP/ccPp8IM8dnGtdDTajjO1a0sYBo7u7LcB yracUhWnE6h90DEtEbGHpEUz3UpvMrXVTC1cFYXml8v3zH4DKlgXyIwC1kItAbqB 9NJTtvB1D5Msnoslqkn+ZoP2K8i0ajcHcXlqma32YiQJM6D4KSxFtRgM7vawCVuy KqnbrdSrQQQ= =bYf5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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e$: New Ecash Shop
by rah＠shipwright.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Now, this looks interesting... Cheers, Bob Hettinga --- begin forwarded text From: kulz(a)dragon.klte.hu (Kultsar Zoltan) Subject: New Ecash Shop To: rah(a)shipwright.com Date: Mon, 18 Sep 1995 12:30:19 +0200 (MET DST) MIME-Version: 1.0 I have opened a new unofficial shop, that accepts ecash. It's unofficial, because it has not yet a logo. It is an autoresponder, which automatically sends out documents that people reques. Uploading costs 5 USD or 15 cb$s (minimum charges). Your documents will also be available on www, or you can build your homepage if you wish, but I can provide only slow links yet. I bought the original autoresponder for ecash, but it in its original form wasn't secure. Eg. 'send *' type requests sent out private material. Now it's completely secure. Send mail To: kulz(a)dragon.klte.hu Subject: send faxbank There is also a www page at http://dragon.klte.hu/~kulz/faxbank.html, where you can view the documents online. --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Shipwright Development Corporation, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA (617) 323-7923 "Reality is not optional." --Thomas Sowell >>>>Phree Phil: Email: zldf(a)clark.net http://www.netresponse.com/zldf <<<<<

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Re: "Hackers"-- brief review and anecdote...
by Peter Trei 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> >I saw "Hackers" yesterday. It's not bad and its political sensibility is > >very cyberpunk. The ad campaign even uses the tag line, "Their only crime > >is curiosity." > It may not be a crime, but it's not nice to steal a title. You mean, like you stole it from Dale Luck's (duck@mit oz) stage play of the same name? I saw this (in an Off-Off-Broadway production), years before your book came out. Peter Trei Senior Software Engineer Purveyor Development Team Process Software Corporation http://www.process.com trei(a)process.com

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Re: "Hackers"-- brief review and anecdote...
by Duncan Frissell 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:16 AM 9/18/95 -6, Peter Trei wrote: >> It may not be a crime, but it's not nice to steal a title. > >You mean, like you stole it from Dale Luck's (duck@mit oz) stage play of the same name? >I saw this (in an Off-Off-Broadway production), years before your book came >out. Steven knows titles can't be copyrighted. He was just expressing the wish that they had come up with their own title. I'm pissed because the sequel to Jurassic Park is stealing the title of Sir Arthur Conan Doyle's dinosaur novel "Lost World." Unfortunately, title-space is more limited than book-space. DCF

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