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Re: Information gathering by news servers
by David Rosoff 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 12.33 PM 8/2/96 -0400, Scott McGuire wrote: >How much information about what someone reads can be gathered >by a news server? Is there an anonymous way to read a public >news server, or would a server have to be set up intentionally >to allow anonymous reading? You could use the Anonymizer (http://www.anonymizer.com/) in combination with a Web Usenet archive: Dejanews, for example. (http://www.dejanews.com/) =============================================================================== David Rosoff (nihongo ga sukoshi dekiru) ---------------> drosoff(a)arc.unm.edu PGP public key 0xD37692F9 -----> finger drosoff(a)acoma.arc.unm.edu or keyservers 0xD37692F9 Key fingerprint = 25 7D AA 01 85 41 43 89 50 5A 33 76 F1 F1 99 67 Do you know who's reading your email? ---> http://www.arc.unm.edu/~drosoff/pgp/ Is it a forgery? --- I have PGP signed all email and news posts since May 1996. =============================================================================== "Relax. It's not a real alarm. They can't crack _Pentagon_ codes. Can they?" :p -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMgOHcBguzHDTdpL5AQE2QAQArHuoLVA0dOJ+LddI2TumYvD/vaFrWBmI LQ3pDNlDRHdyY7u1RouVKkJbYVTvxNZCKQyaWYMgcA38eZl52V65DFq+N11Jhwm4 egCBlOlezDjPOeTk/nK25Ojavdb8ABtqGXGRFf4GwfFBQPq2kApzi8MewYEYeCJG HaofCy5FDWU= =bG1v -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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FYI: CTST Conference Proceedings
by Marshall Clow 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I received thei week an advertisment for the 1996 CardTech/SecureTech conference proceedings. These people have a web site at <http://www.ctst.com>, but it's really lame. (It doesn't contain this table of contents, for example) Since I am not building/using/designing smart card technology right now, I won't be buying it. However, the some of the titles caught my eye: Does anyone have access to this kind of stuff, and would they be willing to post a summary? Here's a (partial) TOC: Volume 1 - Technology Changing the face of Money The Legislature's Perspective on the Future of Money Legal and Regulatory Challenges on the Development of Digital Money Privacy and American Business Introduction to Card and Identification Technology ... Advanced Identification Technology Workshop ... Advances in Signature Verification A Proposed Standard for Biometric Decidability New Imaging Technology Enables Non-intrusive Credit Card Fraud Prevention Secure Private Key Generation using a Finderprint Photo-ID Encryption and Pattern Recognition for Counterfeit Resistance The Voice Password(tm) Chip Low-Cost Biometric Security A Direct Fingerprint Reader Smart Card Technology Seminar ... Magnetic Stripe Card Technology Seminar ... Biometric Technology Seminar ... Optical Memory Card Technology Seminar ... RFID Technology Seminar ... PC Card Technology Seminar ... 2-D Bar Code Technology Seminar ... Volume 2 -- Applications Stored Value Card Applications Seminar ... Telecommunications Applications Seminar ... Government Applications Seminar Go Beyond Security -- Build in Privacy: One Does Not Equal The Other ... A Citizen Card for Europe The Spanish Social Security Card Project (TASS) Government Cards and the Information Age Information Security Applications Seminar ... Physical Security Applications Seminar ... Financial Applications Seminar ... Retail & Loyalty Applications Seminar ... Large Scale Identifications Seminar What's New in Licensing and Department Motor Vehicles Applications Welfare ID at the Point of Transactions Using Fingerprints & 2D Bar Codes INS Card Production Strategies and Initiaitives Counterfeiting of Cards Korean IC Card Market and Trends of Development and Investment Campus-Wide CardIssuance at the State University of New York National ID Programs Around the World Trends in National ID Programs The Future of Large Scale Identification Applications Health Care Applications Seminar ... Transportation Applications Seminar ... University Applications Seminar ... -- Marshall Marshall Clow Aladdin Systems <mailto:mclow@mailhost2.csusm.edu> "We're not gonna take it/Never did and never will We're not gonna take it/Gonna break it, gonna shake it, let's forget it better still" -- The Who, "Tommy"

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Re: TrustBucks
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 6:11 AM 8/2/96, TrustBuckFella wrote: >An alternative model of electronic money. > >Every model of electronic money I know of except one retains some degree >of centralization. There is always a central "mint", usually a bank. If >you can't find a bank that acts the way you want, you're SOL. And the >only thing that enforces non-abuse (inflation, etc) by the bank is the >equivalence of electronic money to some form of "real" money. The sole >exception is Digicash. Unfortunately, Digicash has no restraint on ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >infinite spending-into-debt. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ You want to elaborate on this contention? If Alice transfers Digicash-type money to Bob, this is because Alice either bought the DC-money someplace, or already had it, or otherwise arranged with a bank to make the transaction. Maybe the bank "loaned" her money she didn't already have, but this is a completely separable issue from the form of DC-money. So what is this "restraint on infinite spending-into-debt"? Gullible lenders can always lend her vast amounts of money which she may never repay, but this is fully separable from what transfer protocol she uses to "spend" this loaned money. If, on the other hand, your point is something about inflation, this is also separable. Digicash and other forms of electronic money are generally not currencies per se, but are a kind of transfer order, more like a check. As such, not directly implicated in the issue of inflation. >I'm not going to try to develop the cryptographic protocols for >TrustBucks. I haven't got the requisite paranoia and pickiness >(compliments both) for that. TrustBucks also has nothing in the way of >anonymity and restraint on double-spending right now. If you can see how >it could be anonymous or restrain double-spending and still work, please >feel free to add. No protocols. No anonymity. No protection against double-spending. Looks promising. Keep us informed. --Tim May Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Re: fbi, crypto, and defcon
by David Rosoff 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- At 09.02 PM 8/2/96 -0700, Alan Olsen wrote: >>Can you name another business that has comparable mark-ups? > >Verisign? > >InterNic Domain name registration? > >Licence plates in Washington state? All the money they could possibly make is peanuts compared to the colossal rip-off of compact discs. :) =============================================================================== David Rosoff (nihongo ga sukoshi dekiru) ---------------> drosoff(a)arc.unm.edu PGP public key 0xD37692F9 -----> finger drosoff(a)acoma.arc.unm.edu or keyservers 0xD37692F9 Key fingerprint = 25 7D AA 01 85 41 43 89 50 5A 33 76 F1 F1 99 67 Do you know who's reading your email? ---> http://www.arc.unm.edu/~drosoff/pgp/ Is it a forgery? --- I have PGP signed all email and news posts since May 1996. =============================================================================== "Relax. It's not a real alarm. They can't crack _Pentagon_ codes. Can they?" :p -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMgOXvxguzHDTdpL5AQGzyQP/cDvyqIPmlU1Gg6BE+4u4GQb/RNe6LPa8 AR8fqae+dnEMsqRBF5ChEXNwNDxXCMzxVF0xXhVytlLUonlPpKCTL5E3YZ7nrj5/ SkO0/QpnyqTH1wzb6dV9RBcSxF0+V6EWX1rbHEqfXna52qWOCjDsaH3Wno5FZGJF O60tNSmcVcE= =8vn1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: More evidence that democracy is bunk
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:02 8/3/96, Martin Minow wrote: >At last month's SAFE (crypto policy) conference, one of the >legislators mentioned that someone snuck the text of the >Fourth Amendment into the crime bill, and it was voted down >in committee. > >(It would be nice to dig this out of a transcript, so it doesn't >become an urban legand.) I remember when this originally happened. It was on the news. But I thought it happened in the full House. Should be in the Congressional Record. -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred. Defeat the Demopublican Unity Party. Vote no on Clinton/Dole in November. Vote Harry Browne for President.

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Re: "And who shall guard the guardians?"
by shamrock＠netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:20 8/3/96, Martin Minow wrote: >My understanding is that the United States is (finally) a signatory >to the Declaration. That doesn't matter. Violations would have to be tried by the World Court in Den Haag. The US does not recognize decisions made there (unless it suits their purpose). -- Lucky Green <mailto:shamrock@netcom.com> PGP encrypted mail preferred. Defeat the Demopublican Unity Party. Vote no on Clinton/Dole in November. Vote Harry Browne for President.

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Re: A Libertine Question (fwd)
by Alan Olsen 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 12:18 AM 8/3/96 -0700, Cerridwyn Llewyellyn wrote: >>> As long as you are enforcing it on everyone, I don't think you'd have a >>> problem, but to force some one from cooking food for homeless people, and >>> allow a family barbeque, is IMO wrong. >> >>Not at all. Businesses have no rights, individuals do. Businesses have a ><snip> >>Blueberries they bought at the local HEB). Individuals have a right to >>privacy, that includes cooking themselves food without harrassment. Business >>on the other hand are selling products of potentialy questionable quality. A > >I disagree with your sentiments about Business and rights, however, in this >instance, even that wasn't the issue. Food Not Bombs is NOT a business, it's >a not-for-profit organization that gives out (not sells) food. They are the >same as, I think Tim May pointed out, a Boy Scout picnic, except for the >homless, not the boy scouts. They are also Anarchists. (They are referenced on various Anarchist web pages, among other places.) My personal belief is that they are being prosecuted because they bill themselves as Anarchists and not for what they are doing. If this has been "Society Wives Against Hunger", there would have been no problems at all. (And probibly commendations from the local paper and civic leaders.) Locally, people who have billed themselves as Anarchists have been monitored by the police, harased, and arrested. (Remember: you only deserve the protection of the state if you do not oppose the state.) It seems that this country is quite willing to harrass fringe political groups when the "powers that be" feel they can get away with it. (Which is quite often.) --- Alan Olsen -- alano(a)teleport.com -- Contract Web Design & Instruction `finger -l alano(a)teleport.com` for PGP 2.6.2 key http://www.teleport.com/~alano/ "We had to destroy the Internet in order to save it." - Sen. Exon "Microsoft -- Nothing but NT promises."

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The Hazards of Reading Naughty Newsgroups at Work
by anonymous-remailer＠shell.portal.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

The following interesting article appeared on page 6 of the August 3, 1996 Seattle Times. County Accuses Four of Using the Internet to Access Child Porn -------------------------------------------------------------- By Ronald K. Fitten Seattle Times Staff Reporter Four men, including two former Microsoft employees, have been charged with allegedly using computers to access child pornography on the Internet, said King County Prosecutor Norm Maleng. "Traditional law-enforcement efforts against child pornography have focused on magazines, movies, and tangible materials," Maleng said yesterday. "But law enforcement faces new challenges with the emergence of new technology. The Internet, with its millions of international web sites, has become the new underground highway for illegal child pornography." The two former Microsoft engineers, Michael Seaman, 37, of Kirkland, and Ronald Rosul Jr., 31, of Seattle, allegedly used Microsoft computers to access and copy child pornography from the Internet, according to prosecutors. Microsoft said both were fired after Microsoft discovered the alleged crimes in October 1995. Seaman is charged with possession of child pornography. He allegedly used his Microsoft computer to collect more than 2,500 files of photographs of young children in sexual poses or being sexually abused. Rosul is also charged with possession of child pornography. He allegedly used Microsoft equipment to manufacture a CD-ROM disk containing child pornography. Both Seaman and Rosul will be arraigned next week in King County Superior Court. If convicted, both could receive up to one year in jail. Maleng, who said police and prosecutors worked cooperatively with Microsoft throughout the investigation, said law-enforcement officers had confiscated computer hard drives, CD-ROMs, and printed materials as evidence. Microsoft spokesman Mark Murray said the company found out about the activities of its two former employees last year and alerted police. "We provided the police with the computers to pull up the evidence," Murray said. In an unrelated case, William D. Powell, 52, or Renton, and Dwight Hunter, 48, of Bellevue, are charged with possession of and dealing in child pornography. Powell, an unemployed engineer, is accused of using his home computer to exchange child pornography with Hunter. If convicted of both offenses, Powell, who has a warrant out for his arrest after failing to appear at his arraignment three weeks ago, could be sentenced to between 21 and 27 months in prison. Hunter, an unemployed salesman, is accused of using his home computer to exchange child pornography with Powell and of having photographs in his computer disks of children engaged in several types of sexual activities with adults, other children, and a dog. Hunter will be arraigned next week. If convicted, he could receive almost three years in prison.

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Re: Let's Say "No!" to Single, World Versions of Software
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 7:49 AM 8/3/96, Adam Back wrote: >Bill Frantz <frantz(a)netcom.com> writes: >> Sun Microsystems - SKIP implementation, PGP v3 implementation > >Sun PGP v3? Whats the story behind this item? Are sun sponsoring PGP >v3 development? Derek Atkins is being paid by Sun for his work on v3, last I heard. --Tim Boycott "Big Brother Inside" software! We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, we know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Licensed Ontologist | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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Who the hell is ....
by pjn＠nworks.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

In> OK, I'v been on the list a bit now. I see a lot of the same In> people posting to it, In> My question is " Who the Hell is Sternlight" At first I thought In> it was a pen name ( the light on the end of a boat ?? ) Close... If you shone a light throught one ear, it would come out the other... P.J. pjn(a)nworks.com ... We are Hippies of Borg. Make love. War is irrelevant. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20 [NR]

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