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Re: 56 kbps modems
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:41 AM 9/17/96 -0700, Eric Murray <ericm(a)lne.com> wrote: >Crypto/security related: how hard is it to hack a Frame Relay >connection? My impression is that it requires access to >one of the telco's routing computers, which would make it >about equivalent in difficulty to hacking POTS. Frame Relay doesn't get handled by the telco's POTS routing (unlike ISDN) - it's handled by whatever frame relay switch the telco uses. I don't know what Pac Bell uses; AT&T uses Stratacom switches, I think MCI uses Cascade, USWest uses a mixture. Frame switches mostly use Permanent Virtual Circuits, though Switched Virtual Circuits will be coming out in the next year or so. PVCs are pretty tough to hack, because they mostly get provisioned from an administrative interface on the switch rather than in-band. SVCs will offer a bit more risk, since switching is switching. But it's probably pretty tough. # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # <A HREF="http://idiom.com/~wcs"> # You can get PGP software outside the US at ftp.ox.ac.uk/pub/crypto

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Re: Cryptologie: Conference internationale - 25 SEPT - Paris
by Remo Pini 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Thu Sep 19 11:31:08 1996 > September 25, 1996 > > Centre de Conf=E9rence Internationale > 19 Avenue Kleber, Paris 16, France > > Program, registration and further information (English): > http://www.epic.org/events/crypto_paris > I'll be there, how about any of you out there (yes, I know some of you wi= ll be there as a feature)? - ------< fate favors the prepared mind >------ Remo Pini rp(a)rpini.com PGP: http://www.rpini.com/crypto/crypto.html - ----< words are what reality is made of >---- -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i Charset: noconv iQEVAwUBMkES3RFhy5sz+bTpAQEzmAf/d1XqnIlGj3jgX/hgGLwom15WLsNvPjfZ YcQqOjP3e5pEeHjWWAUUjQ2dopTOI7+Kytb4ZCIgoI6TIFmkWj/jAMfpx/IYx89C Db3f7+jvEN19Q/NQUYdUXktqaMC7zFMjgX8U2LBfiuR7qloMMJV+O3pDTvdJCjln BumjKnk9NwebtBrcmMIw3Y1LZ1jjFfwbanUEYlKMUgp32XXxxe+q0HOWI4x9gb32 NvPlXSftPSkpHt2M8V52wZljbtnd9WfDTsqscEjaZ3e++IousAc2itkFSV3jvS72 XT2ZZrU3lJc0n8qOjKyYR19hMIfzQgzwmrbukK0/W8R923SSA01nGA== =ERW9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: DL in exchange for fingerprint
by tcmay＠got.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 9:13 PM 9/19/96, Gary Howland wrote: >Timothy C. May wrote: >> >> (Yes, I disliked being thumb-printed, but I could see no viable >> alternative. I'm sure Duncan has some scheme to declare himself a Botswanan >> exchange student, but I decided being thumb-printed was the lesser hassle.) > >Sure, it's always less hassle doing what they want. Privacy doesn't >come for free. It's easier to let the police search you in the street >than it is to make them arrest you so that you can make a formal >complaint. So, just what it is _your_ method of dealing with this? While it is noble to talk about fighting the system, just how do you go about doing it yourself? Do you simply drive without a valid driver's license? I know some folks who do, of course, but it's not something that's "worth it" to me. (This space reserved for your lecture about how I need to be prepared to go to jail to defend my right not to be thumbprinted, etc. On second thought, why don't you be the one to go to jail, and then you can let us know your experiences.) >> Paraphrasing that famous quote, just which part of "not for identification" >> don't they understand? > >Hmm - who are you paraphrasing here? (Just curious). "What part of "No" don't you understand?" and "What part of "Congress shall make no law" don't you understand?" --Tim May We got computers, we're tapping phone lines, I know that that ain't allowed. ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, tcmay(a)got.net 408-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, Higher Power: 2^1,257,787-1 | black markets, collapse of governments. "National borders aren't even speed bumps on the information superhighway."

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CIA hacked
by Mike van der Merwe 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hi everybody Heh! This one's good for a laugh :-)) http://www.odci.gov/cia Seems the DOJ hack was a good inspiration. Heh! Life's good when you're willing to work at it. Later Mike ____________________________________________________________________ I'm sure we will find out in a few years that Microsoft invented the Net. Or brought it to the masses. Or saved it from a certain and early demise. Or all of the above. JAMES SEYMOUR

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Re: GAK, GAP, GAY
by Bill Stewart 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 10:52 AM 9/18/96 -0700, Tim wrote: >It doesn't matter if cash is still allowed if one cannot interact with any >health care person without a proper citizen-unit data base entry. They've >got you tracked even if you pay in gold dust. > >(Putting on my Duncan cap--not to be confused with dunce cap--I wonder what >will happen the first time someone dies because a hospital wouldn't treat >someone without a proper citizen-unit health care card?) By definition, without a citizen-unit health card number, a Health Status Transition Event can't be recorded, therefore nothing will happen. It's possible that some auditor may notice a short-term increase in the amount of hazardous medical waste disposal at the facility that can't be properly allocated to health-services-consumption-units for cost recovery purposes, but there are overhead accounts for such things, which are simpler than creating fictitious accounts for "un-persons" or some such. # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # <A HREF="http://idiom.com/~wcs"> # You can get PGP software outside the US at ftp.ox.ac.uk/pub/crypto

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DL in exchange for fingerprint
by Jeff Barber 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Oh joy. You no longer need to be arrested to get fingerprinted in Georgia. On the front page of Wednesday's Atlanta Journal, under the headline "Now you can get driver's license in minutes": The average 45-day wait to get a new driver's license in Georgia will be a thing of the past under a new system that will churn them out while customers wait. "From start to finish it takes about 10 minutes," said chief examiner ... in charge of the Georgia State Patrol's driver's license office in Milledgeville where the system went into effect on Tuesday. Previously, drivers received a temporary paper license that was good for 45 days. ... ... Officials at the Department of Public Safety plan to have the new computer system in 82 locations across the state by Oct. 1. Georgia is the 32nd state with the system. After an eye exam, the applicant presses a finger down on a pad that registers the fingerprint in a state-wide memory bank. Then, the examiner confirms the name, address, and identifying information. ... The licenses have a hologram of the word "Georgia" behind the driver's name, age and address, and a bar code on the back that contains a laser recording of the driver's index fingerprints. "We keep a memory bank that matches your fingerprints with your license," [DoPS spokesman] said. "In other words, if you went to get a new license with a false birth certificate and your fingerprint didn't match the name, you wouldn't get a license. And you could also face possible investigation for fraud from the Public Safety's investigative division." ... "I think it's wonderful," said Katherine Kidd, the first Milledgeville driver to get the instant license. "It's a great idea. Now we don't have to wait forever." [ End quote ] Just what I would have called it: a great idea. Is it true that 31 other states take your fingerprint as part of the license application? I feel sick. -- Jeff

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SAB_tag
by jya＠pipeline.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

9-19-96. NYP: "New Method of Internet Sabotage Is Spreading." Markoff. Sabotage reported by Panix is spreading and has now occurred at least a dozen other World Wide Web sites around the nation. Officials concede that there is no easy defense against the attack. One said. "I think this is sick, but I guess that is what these guys do." "Regulators Turn Spotlight on Cybermoney." As concerns grow about electronic money laundering, cybercounterfeiting and bank runs on the Internet, regulators around the world are scurrying to catch up with the rapid development of electronic money. The US plans to announce today two initiatives intended to grapple with the new technology, and in another move, G-7 will examine the international cooperation needed as money moves through the borderless world of the Internet. ----- http://jya.com/sabtag.txt (14 kb for 2) SAB_tag ---------- Pipeline is sluggish due to transition to Mindspring operation. Responses may be slow or never. Try again after 2000, or forget about it, go Luddite.

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Re: GLOBAL ALERT: GERMAN GOVERNMENT PUSHES BLOCKAGE OF NETHERLANDS WEB SITES
by Rolf Weber 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

i absolutely agree with what you said, but let me correct this misunderstanding: > > GERMAN GOVERNMENT PUSHES BLOCKAGE OF NETHERLANDS WEB SITES. > it was *not* the german government, it was the public prosecutor general, who pushed this blockage. the german government recently said, that ISPs shouldn't (and aren't!) be responsible for what they're transmitting. but like other democratic states, in germany the public prosecutor is independant from government... rolf -- ----------------------------------------- Rolf Weber <weber(a)iez.com> | All I ask is a chance IEZ AG D-64625 Bensheim | to prove that money ++49-6251-1309-109 | can't make me happy.

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RE: Bernstein hearing reminder: THIS Friday 11:45AM, SF Federal Building
by hootie＠netrix.net 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Me too! At 09:24 AM 9/19/96 +-200, Batman wrote: >For the 200th time, unsubscrive me of your fucked mail lists. > > >

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No Subject
by mixmaster＠remail.obscura.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

"Drivers Must Allow Fingerprinting" By Ralph Ellis _The Atlanta Constitution_ 9/19/96 "Georgians renewing or getting a new driver's license after Sept. 30 will have to provide the state with two fingerprints. "The right and left index fingerprints will be taken with an inkless scanning device that is part of a digital imaging system being installed in 82 driver's license examination offices across the state said Gordy Wright, spokesman for the Georgia Department of Public Safety. SNIP "The fingerprints will make it difficult for people to obtain licenses with falsified identification papers, Wright said. "Teresa Nelson of the Ga. Civil Liberties Union said the fingerprinting invades the privacy of law-abiding citizens. "'I have grave concerns,' she said. 'When we think of giving a fingerprint, we think of being arrested. We feel like we've done something wrong, not because we are complying with the law and are doing something right.' "There will be no exceptions to the fingerprint requirement..., Wright said, adding that 'having a driver's license is a privilege,' not a right. SNIP "Wright said...the fingerprints eventually will be available to other law enforcement agencies and courts.... SNIP "The new licenses will include an instant photo....A bar code on the back will contain a laser recording of the driver's index fingerprints...."

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