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Your message to COOL_TRAVELS-request@LISTSERV.XWEB.EDS.COM
by L-Soft list server at EDS (1.8b) 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sat, 26 Oct 1996 03:52:44 Your message to COOL_TRAVELS-request(a)LISTSERV.XWEB.EDS.COM has been forwarded to the "list owners" (the people who manage the COOL_TRAVELS list). If you wanted to reach a human being, you used the correct procedure and you can ignore the remainder of this message. If you were trying to send a command for the computer to execute, please read on. The COOL_TRAVELS list is managed by a LISTSERV server. LISTSERV commands should always be sent to the "LISTSERV" address, ie LISTSERV(a)LISTSERV.XWEB.EDS.COM. LISTSERV never tries to process messages sent to the COOL_TRAVELS-request address; it simply forwards them to a human being, and acknowledges receipt with the present message. The "listname-request" convention originated on the Internet a long time ago. At the time, lists were always managed manually, and this address was defined as an alias for the person(s) in charge of the mailing list. You would write to the "listname-request" address to ask for information about the list, ask to be added to the list, make suggestions about the contents and policy, etc. Because this address was always a human being, people knew and expected to be talking to a human being, not to a computer. Unfortunately, some recent list management packages screen incoming messages to the "listname-request" address and attempt to determine whether they are requests to join or leave the list. They look for words such as "subscribe", "add", "leave", "off", and so on. If they decide your message is a request to join or leave the list, they update the list automatically; otherwise, they forward the message to the list owners. Naturally, this means that if you write to the list owners about someone else's unsuccessful attempts to leave the list, you stand good chances of being automatically removed from the list, whereas the list owners will never receive your message. No one really benefits from this. There is no reliable mechanism to contact a human being for assistance, and you can never be sure whether your request will be interpreted as a command or as a message to the list owners. This is why LISTSERV uses two separate addresses, one for the people in charge of the list and one for the computer that runs it. This way you always know what will happen, especially if you are writing in a language other than English. In any case, if your message was a LISTSERV command, you should now resend it to LISTSERV(a)LISTSERV.XWEB.EDS.COM. The list owners know that you have received this message and may assume that you will resend the command on your own. You will find instructions for the most common administrative requests below. ********************* * TO LEAVE THE LIST * ********************* Write to LISTSERV(a)LISTSERV.XWEB.EDS.COM and, in the text of your message (not the subject line), write: SIGNOFF COOL_TRAVELS ******************** * TO JOIN THE LIST * ******************** Write to LISTSERV(a)LISTSERV.XWEB.EDS.COM and, in the text of your message (not the subject line), write: SUBSCRIBE COOL_TRAVELS ************************ * FOR MORE INFORMATION * ************************ Write to LISTSERV(a)LISTSERV.XWEB.EDS.COM and, in the text of your message (not the subject line), write: "HELP" or "INFO" (without the quotes). HELP will give you a short help message and INFO a list of the documents you can order.

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Command confirmation request (203E30)
by L-Soft list server at EDS (1.8b) 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Your command: SIGNOFF COOL_TRAVELS has been received. For security reasons, you are now required to reply to this message, as explained below, to confirm the execution of your command. If you have problems with this procedure, you can contact the list owner directly (COOL_TRAVELS-request(a)LISTSERV.XWEB.EDS.COM) and ask to be manually removed from the list. To confirm the execution of your command, simply reply to the present message and type "ok" (without the quotes) as the text of your message. Just the word "ok" - do not retype the command. This procedure will work with any mail program that fully conforms to the Internet standards for electronic mail. If you receive an error message, try sending a new message to LISTSERV(a)LISTSERV.XWEB.EDS.COM (without using the "reply" function - this is very important) and type "ok 203E30" as the text of your message. Finally, your command will be cancelled automatically if you do not confirm it within 48h. After that time, you must start over and resend the command to get a new confirmation code. If you change your mind and decide that you do NOT want to confirm the command, simply discard the present message and let the command expire on its own.

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Re: http://www.clintongore96.com/ is hacked.
by stewarts＠ix.netcom.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 08:42 PM 10/25/96 -0700, Declan McCullagh <declan(a)eff.org> wrote: >It's a parody site. >www.cg96.org is the real one. That and www.clintongore.org are run by the Committee To Re-Elect the President, at 2100 M St. NW, Washington DC. But there are at least four CLINTONGORE#-DOM entries in whois, plus some CG4-DOM and CG5-DOM. Some are less official than others :-) # Thanks; Bill # Bill Stewart, +1-415-442-2215 stewarts(a)ix.netcom.com # You can get PGP outside the US at ftp.ox.ac.uk Imagine if three million people voted for somebody they _knew_, and the politicians had to count them all.

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Re: Recruiting machines for DES key recovery
by paul＠fatmans.demon.co.uk 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> There are thousands of Amigas out there, and they're powerful enough > to do video production on... a C port with assembler optimizations > shouldn't be more painful than one for a PC or Mac. Why not put some > of them to use (especially if they're unused) key cracking? > > [Disclaimer: I have no first hand experience with programming Amigas > though... would they be too slow?] I can`t do the port myself unless the PC code is going to be in C as I don`t write amiga assembler anymore (not for about 2 years). As for the speed I have an A4000/030 here which is about equivalent to a 486 dx 33 or similar and the average amiga, an A1200 is about the same as a 486 sx 25 I really don`t think a port is worth doing though because there are few amiga owners who use the internet extensively because the TCP/IP stack (amitcp) for the amiga is a load of crap. Datacomms Technologies web authoring and data security Paul Bradley, Paul(a)fatmans.demon.co.uk Paul(a)crypto.uk.eu.org, Paul(a)cryptography.uk.eu.org Http://www.cryptography.home.ml.org/ Email for PGP public key, ID: 5BBFAEB1 "Don`t forget to mount a scratch monkey"

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Re: I'm Confused about Algorithm Patents in Canada
by Murray Hayes 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Thu, 24 Oct 1996 12:01:05 +0200, Gary Howland wrote: >janke(a)unixg.ubc.ca wrote: >> >> I have a library of crypto goodies that I would like to release, >> but am kinda stuck on the copyright: I read in a very new book that [snip] > > >Yes, this certainly seems to be a grey area. For instance, the MD of >Digicash said recently that they have a worldwide patent on blinding, [snip] > "European patents shall be granted for any inventions which are > susceptible of industrial applications, which are new and which > involve an inventive step." > > The EPC does not define what is meant by inventions, but Article > 52(2) lists subject-matter and activities "which shall not be > regarded as inventions" within the meaning of Article 52(1), in > particular: > > - discoveries, scientific theories and mathematical methods > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > - aesthetic creations > - schemes, rules and methods for performing mental acts, playing >games > or doing business, and programs for computers > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ > - presentations of information > >I no nothing of patent law, but this certainly does seem to imply that >algorithms themselves cannot be patented in Europe. Any European patent >experts out there? > Patents are different from copywrites. In Canada there are specific guidelines pertaining to what can and cannot be patented. These guide lines are avalible from the government (look in the blue pages). Algorithims, circut designs, etc, etc (what about papers about them?) are specifically excluded from copywrite laws in all countries that adhere to the international copywrite treaty (or what ever). Algorithms come under intelectual property protection but I have no idea what laws govern that. I do recall that sevral years ago, a company sued an emplyee that was leaving. The court ordered that he could not obtain employment in his previous field for seven years (practically a life time). If in doubt you should probably seek professional legal advice because you could get yourself into MAJOR legal trouble. mhayes(a)infomatch.com http://www.infomatch.com/~mhayes

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anonymous oddsman
by nobody＠cypherpunks.ca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

[Please repost these odds where appropriate.] Below, we find one of the oddsman's final gambling reports on all the candidates listed on 50 states. The anonymous oddsman service will cease for about 3&1/2 years or so after Nov. 5th, but we hope to bring you at least one more update before then. Thanks to all who have helped. Prices @ 09:05 BST Sat 26th Oct 96 +---------+----------------+----------------+ | | Ladbroke's | William Hill | +---------+----------------+----------------+ | Clinton | Not currently offered by either | | Dole | 7:1 | 8:1 | | Perot | No bets | 500:1 | | Browne | Not currently offered by either | +---------+----------------+----------------+ | Phone | +44-800-524524 | +44-800-444040 | | Numbers:| | | +---------+----------------+----------------+ Our roving reporter reports "still nothing from Coral." Then, in his own inimitable terminology, he offers the following: "Does the fact that they are not offering any bets on Harry Browne mean that they reckon his chances are as good as trouser-brain ??? :-)" The oddsman cannot comment on this for the following two reasons: 1. Like the U.S. news media, he is trying to maintain a "sheen of objectivity," even though pretty-much-everyone knows who the oddsman is pulling for. 2. The anonymous oddsman is a family service! ;) Still no word from Moscow, and now the oddsman is getting more curious than ever about whether there are still Clinton odds in mother Russia. Interesting that Ladbroke house has even stopped taking _Perot_ bets now. The horse race ends before it begins. anonymous oddsman "Demeaning the integrity of the U.S. Presidential election process for you on a regular basis, at no charge."

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Me again -- apologies and explanations
by h2＠juno.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

I dont know what the hell is happening; My friend comes over and he is really intrested in all this stuff...I want to apologize for any trouble caused...My name goes with every damn message...Again, sorry everyone. Guess he wanted to rather have me screwed then him. Im unsubscribing...

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$30_bil
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

10-27-96. NYP Book Review: SECRET AGENCIES U.S. Intelligence in a Hostile World. By Loch K. Johnson. 262 pp. New Haven: Yale University Press. $30. Johnson, formerly assistant to Les Aspin, aims to explain what the dozen American intelligence agencies actually do with $30 billion a year. Absent the cartoon heroics, it's not far from Tom Clancy. Mr. Johnson avoids mushy reflections on the human costs of covert action -- this book is clearly meant for policy wonks -- but does note that "the long-term consequences of covert actions have seldom been foreseen -- and have often proved detrimental to the United States." ----- http://jya.com/$30bil.txt (5 kb) Server's got lead in its. Try, try. ftp://jya.com/pub/incoming/$30bil.txt $30_bil

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Command confirmation request (7B3F47)
by L-Soft list server at EDS (1.8b) 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Your command: SIGNOFF COOL_TRAVELS has been received. For security reasons, you are now required to reply to this message, as explained below, to confirm the execution of your command. If you have problems with this procedure, you can contact the list owner directly (COOL_TRAVELS-request(a)LISTSERV.XWEB.EDS.COM) and ask to be manually removed from the list. To confirm the execution of your command, simply reply to the present message and type "ok" (without the quotes) as the text of your message. Just the word "ok" - do not retype the command. This procedure will work with any mail program that fully conforms to the Internet standards for electronic mail. If you receive an error message, try sending a new message to LISTSERV(a)LISTSERV.XWEB.EDS.COM (without using the "reply" function - this is very important) and type "ok 7B3F47" as the text of your message. Finally, your command will be cancelled automatically if you do not confirm it within 48h. After that time, you must start over and resend the command to get a new confirmation code. If you change your mind and decide that you do NOT want to confirm the command, simply discard the present message and let the command expire on its own.

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Output of your job "cypherpunks"
by L-Soft list server at EDS (1.8b) 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> ok 203E30 Confirming: > SIGNOFF COOL_TRAVELS You have been removed from the COOL_TRAVELS list. Summary of resource utilization ------------------------------- CPU time: 0.016 sec Device I/O: 1 Overhead CPU: 0.008 sec Paging I/O: 0 CPU model: IP22

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