- cypherpunks-legacy - lists.cpunks.org

Re: two bogus messages to this list
by Ryan Russell/SYBASE 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

All computers have software which capture keystrokes in a central way....we call them "keyboard drivers." Any machine you have physical access to can be compromised. Ryan ---------- Previous Message ---------- To: wombat cc: attila, cypherpunks, ichudov From: teddygee @ visi.net (Ted Garrett) @ smtp Date: 11/11/96 11:08:59 PM Subject: Re: two bogus messages to this list On Mon, 11 Nov 1996, Rabid Wombat wrote: >On Mon, 11 Nov 1996 attila(a)primenet.com wrote: > >> In <199611111238.GAA17346(a)manifold.algebra.com>, on 11/11/96 >> at 06:38 AM, ichudov(a)algebra.com (Igor Chudov @ home) said: >> >> >.I did not write the two messages below. I did have a small party >> >.yesterday, probably some of my guests did that... >> just goes to proof it: Microslop and Intel boxes are secure >> only when most of their parts are stored under lock and key. > >Um, not to disagree with you re Intel/Micro$loth, but most UNIX systems >can be brought up in single-user mode and the root password changed by >anyone with physical access to the system. You could end up with even >more trouble than if someone messed with your M$ box. Microsloth has, at the heart of it's system, a call which traps ALL KEYSTROKES and EVENTS. This call exists from Win32s on, and can be placed inside of a DLL which most users would have no idea was loaded. Even under NT, this DLL can be made to remain resident and trapping Keystrokes, events, and window contents. Does this just BEG to be exploited? If you give me normal user access to ANY microsloth machine, I can have most of the system's security broken down to NOTHING within a week. And I'm not even a good MS programmer! <Are my prejudices showing?> At least under UNIX, you damned well know you have to secure your system. Microsloth attempts to sell itself as a secure platform. --- "Obviously, the US Constitution isn't perfect, but it's a lot better than what we have now." - Unknown PGP key id - 0xDEACDFD1 - Full key available from pgp-public-keys(a)pgp.mit.edu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.3i iQEVAwUBMof4ac1+l8EKBK5FAQHyHQf7BpV8GBB7EEazflFHoTjsUgBrayH9ibCb IBYWUqiftuviG7TdKMg/Sj3eh69O9iMqah5lZR0bvpKZqFbeNgbMRGHnytjGvk5z cmJUQaPgNYupZlLdg0bfbnaNyjJzUYTpNIuNX/fvwUwYQDKtXquTqcoMvWl0tFSI N0PaiZEj5gsRbNCiJ15Uuzpwxn+FtYhwq92bWCWmSqLkpgn1FbC0PwzmKoEcrHpW hYICm0LLS5Pp9y846SNEcANOP66/VfAL1pMsiBCL0tLxBa+K/UcB6xnutApQ4K0P DeMkhqw3Z6fQVBAnJFGsrVJaXOvvtPdH1Lbwo1eIutbqyAaFU2FVGQ== =dru/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

2 1

Re: His and Her Anarchies
by Dale Thorn 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

jbugden(a)smtplink.alis.ca wrote: > "Timothy C. May" <tcmay(a)got.net> wrote: > >Well, I think there clearly _is_ a gender gap on these sorts of issues. > Technologies that matter make daily life less obnoxious, and you can leverage > them all the time. The Net is going to start mattering in a significant way when > it relieves people of the burden of dealing with the garbage inherent in the > information flow of everyday life. The net is going to matter when I can rely on > it to store the information I now keep on disk, and the computer is a completely > transparent object. All the documents that are important to me are maintained by > the Net with sufficient reliability that I can unplug my computer and smash it > with a hammer without affecting anything. > Under this scenario, strong, reliable crypto becomes similar to electricity. The > entire infomration infrastructure is built on it, but hardly anyone gives it a > second thought. > What kind of people use the Net and what are their activities doing to the > country, the world, the culture? It may sound like a parochial issue that women > don't much like computers, but they don't, and the issue is a tremendously > important one. They're not attracted to this world, certainly not to the extent > that men are, and that's one of the reasons why it is such a spiritually > impoverished world. Most reasonable sophisticated men are happier in an > environment that included women. One of the problems with the computer society > is that not only is it an almost all-male society, but it's part of a little-boy > society, part of an ongoing infantilization of the society over the past half > century. Most heterosexual men claim to like women, but the claim is dubious on the part of a large percentage of men, since they really like to mostly do "boy things", i.e., follow sports, ride motorcycles, listen to "boy music", etc., rather than hang out with women as just friends. I think if people were really honest, they'd admit that, by and large, men like men and women like women. Simple enough, eh?

1 0

Kriegsman Furs Website hacked...
by Eraser 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Hey all.. Another commercial hack. http://www.kriegsman.com/ which is still live at this posting. if it goes down, or is fixed, a mirror exists on http://www.skeeve.net/kriegsman/ nicely done... one for the furry creatures. ------------------------------------------------------------------- | Skeeve Stevens - MyInternet personal.url: http://www.skeeve.net/ | | email://skeeve@skeeve.net/ work.url: http://www.myinternet.net/ | | phone://612.9869.3334/ mobile://0414.SKEEVE/ [753-383] | -------------------------------------------------------------------

3 3

Re: Why is cryptoanarchy irreversible?
by Murray Hayes 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

On Fri, 08 Nov 1996 14:46:56 +0100, Matts Kallioniemi wrote: >At 17:12 1996-11-07 -0800, jim bell wrote: >>Simple analogy: Suppose you put two people into a room with a deck of >>playing cards and a table, instructing "Person A" to build a house-of-cards, >>and telling "Person B" to stop him from achieving his goal. Who do you >>think will win? Obviously, the latter will win: It's vastly easier to >>knock such a structure down than to build it in the first place, and all >>"Person B" has to do is occasionally take a whack at the structure. > >What if Person A is better armed? Could that change the outcome? > > > What if person A has a pack of chewing gum? mhayes(a)infomatch.com It's better for us if you don't understand It's better for me if you don't understand -Tragically Hip

2 1

unsubcribe
by Edouard Janssens 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

unsubcribe -------------------------------------------- Edouard Janssens ej(a)netit.be Net it be s.a. www.netit.be Rue Tenbosch, 94 B-1050 Brussels tel. +32 2 343 93 35 Belgium fax. +32 2 343 04 05 "There will be an answer, ... Net it be !" --------------------------------------------

2 1

RE: His and Her Anarchies
by jbugden＠smtplink.alis.ca 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

jbugden(a)smtplink.alis.ca wrote: >Most reasonable sophisticated men are happier in an environment that >included women. Dale Thorn <dthorn(a)gte.net> wrote: >I think if people were really honest, they'd admit that, by and large, >men like men and women like women. Well, ignoring the narcissistic overtones of your comment, and the fact that I was quoting David Gelernter from Yale, I could point out the qualifier "reasonably sophisticated" or the relative comparator "happier", but I think it will suffice to say that an environment that included women may just include your mother. And wouldn't we all be happier with our mommy around? Ciao, James You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool mom.

1 0

Re: pgp3
by Gary Howland 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> Someone suggested to me that Derek posted a draft spec for PGP 3.0. > Anyone know of the whereabouts of this document. Yes. That document has evolved to RFC 1991: 1991 I D. Atkins, W. Stallings, P. Zimmermann, "PGP Message Exchange Formats", 08/16/1996. (Pages=21) (Format=.txt)

3 2

Georgia Internet Law
by camcc＠abraxis.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>X-Sender: rcostner(a)intergate.net >Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 02:07:00 -0500 >Reply-To: Electronic Frontiers Ga Action Mailing List <ACTION(a)efga.org> >From: "Robert A. Costner" <pooh(a)efga.org> >Subject: Georgia Internet Law > >Here's some info on the HB1630 issue... > >>Return-Path: <jfaber(a)A.crl.com> >>Date: Mon, 11 Nov 1996 19:32:13 -0800 >>From: Joe Faber <jfaber(a)A.crl.com> >>Reply-To: joefaber(a)dwt.com >>Organization: Davis Wright Tremaine >>I have published an article on your case against the law in my firm's >>First Amendment Law Letter, if you would like to link to it. The >>article can be found at >>http://www.dwt.com/News/firstamendnews/regulation.html. >> >>Joe Faber FYI--Internet law issues Cordially, Alec PGP Fingerprint: pub 1024/41207EE5 1996/04/08 Alec McCrackin <camcc(a)abraxis.com> Key fingerprint = 09 13 E1 CB B3 0C 88 D9 D7 D4 10 F0 06 7D DF 31

2 1

Enabling Electronic Commerce
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Would anyone know of a source for the "Enabling Electronic Commerce" paper listed below? The hyperlink gave a 404 but identified the document as "iiicecom.htm." ---------- http://www.x3.org/itic/961031.htm [Excerpt] World's Leading IT Industry Associations Reach Accord On Global Information Society Policy Issues October 31, 1996, Napa, California The world's leading information technology industry associations completed work today on policy recommendations to stimulate the realization of a Global Information Society. These recommendations, or common views papers, were adopted by the group at the conclusion of this week's International Information Industry Congress (IIIC) in Napa Valley, California. They cover the following issues: Enabling Electronic Commerce -- discusses the requirements for successful international electronic commerce: cryptography policy; acceptance of electronic proofs; digital signatures; and electronic contracts and receipts. [Snip balance of document]

1 0

What is: Returned mail: User Unknown
by camcc＠abraxis.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>Date: Tue, 12 Nov 1996 18:17:40 +1100 >To: mianigand(a)outlook.net, cypherpunks(a)toad.com >To: owner-cypherpunks(a)toad.com >To: cypherpunks-errors(a)toad.com >References: <199611111831.KAA10148(a)toad.com> >X-Loop: postmaster(a)opennet.net.au >Subject: Returned mail: User Unknown >From: Open Net Postmaster <postmaster(a)opennet.net.au> >Sender: owner-cypherpunks(a)toad.com > > >The address you mailed to is no longer valid. >This is probably because the user in question was an >old Open Net subscriber. Open Net is NO LONGER an ISP, >and has not been since May 1996. > >We have no redirection address for that user. Please >remove them from any mailing lists you might have. > >This response was generated automatically. I have received about 20 of these messages. Anyone else with this problem? Cordially, Alec PGP Fingerprint: pub 1024/41207EE5 1996/04/08 Alec McCrackin <camcc(a)abraxis.com> Key fingerprint = 09 13 E1 CB B3 0C 88 D9 D7 D4 10 F0 06 7D DF 31

2 1