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Internet Censorware Summit, Clinton to speak, Dec 1-3 [resent]
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:20 -0800 10/30/97, James S. Tyre wrote: >Showing my ignorance, what's the "real" censorware summit? Check out http://www.kidsonline.org/ -- it's a hoot. Praises the CDA as a "well-intentioned effort to protect children." Grew out of the White House's kickoff Censorware Summit in July; Clinton is expected to speak at this one. Scheduled for Dec 1-3 here in DC. Chaired by former Clinton campaign official and former FTC "protect the children" Commissioner Christine Varney. (This is not to criticize Varney; I rather like her personally, but politically, well...) The Censorware Summit is organized largely by industy groups -- America Online initially took the lead role -- and sympathetic advocacy groups. Donna Rice-Hughes (yes that Donna Rice) is heavily involved, as operations co-chair or something (I forget her real title). Sydney Rubin (syd(a)kidsonline.org) a public relations rep for CyberPatrol, is handling media registration. The Center for Democracy and Technology, which runs the pro-censorware netparents.org site, is hosting the kidsonline.org site. Following is a quote from the web site. Note it talks about how we need stricter enforcement of obscenity laws -- one of the worst ideas I've heard in a while. Remember Robert Thomas -- why should S.F. or NYC be subject to the "community standards" of Tennessee? *sigh* >The summit will seek to advance the following objectives in accordance with >Presidential and Congressional statements on Internet use by children: > > Technological Solutions: Encouraging market-based development and > deployment of an effective, easy-to-use "digital toolbox" of user > empowerment tools which can assist parents and others responsible for > children, in shielding those children from material they deem >inappropriate > and shaping children's communication and information options online; to > enable access to positive content and communications based on >individual > values; and to enable service and content providers, and others, to >create > family-friendly environments. > > Enforcement of Current Law: Fostering greater cooperation among > law enforcement, industry, and the public, to support vigorous > enforcement of existing laws against using the Internet to traffic >in obscene > material and child pornography, stalk children, and commit other >crimes. Fortunately there's a coalition forming to oppose this. That is, emphasizing the free speech implications of rating and filtering proposals. I understand details will be made public soon. As I said: >>Look for the usual suspects to stand up and wave around censorware >>programs, blissfully ignoring the fact that the Supreme Court ruled >>recently that the Net should be as free as print or a public square. Last I >>checked, print publishers would never endorse any "self-labelling" system >>to stave off Federal censorship. They'd have the balls to stand up and >>fight. So should the Net. -Declan

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Re: CAUTION: This *could* be a TROLL / Re: Request For Cash: TruthMailer services at dev.null
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

> TruthMailer wrote: > > > > O "I'm from BassMasters, and I'm here to help you." > > |/------o > > -\______|___/- | > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > | > > |/ <}+++< > From: TruthMailer <tm(a)dev.null> > X-Mailer: CumSock Remailer Version ALPHA1.3B > X-Comments: - > X-Comments: Subliminal Message: "SEND MONEY! SEND MONEY! SEND MONEY!" > X-Comments: - > X-Comments: Spammer's Prayer: > X-Comments: "Please Lord, let these rubes fall off the turnip truck > X-Comments: just one more time. > X-Comments: "If you make me rich, I'll quit being a loser. I'll quit > X-Comments: fucking my mom, my sister, my daughter and my dog. > X-Comments: "Please? Please...please...please..." Yep, looks like a Troll, alright...

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Encryption Policy in the Spotlight At Free-Market.Net
by freematt＠coil.com 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

From: "Free-Market.Net" <chris(a)free-market.net> Subject: FMNews: Encryption Spotlight, Deadline for Drawing Free-Market.Net News Announcement --------------------------------- In this update: * Encryption Policy in the Spotlight * Spooky Deadline for Lifetime Membership Give-Away Encryption Policy in the Spotlight ---------------------------------- <http://www.free-market.net/features/spotlight/> If you're a little unclear about the difference between 56-bit and 128-bit encryption keys, or the difference between the U.S. government's Clipper Chip and their key escrow plan, come check out the Policy Spotlight. This month's issue gives a basic overview of the science and politics of encryption, and then offers a couple dozen kilobytes of links for more information. We recommend free-market materials from the likes of the Cato Institute, Reason Magazine, HotWired, Forbes, David Friedman, Phil Zimmerman, and Free-Market.Net advisor Bill Frezza. There's also some anti-encryption materials, for you serious students with a strong stomach. And if you're feeling adventurous, there are some fun links like the one that lets you become an international arms trafficker with the click of a button (by sending code for an encryption program to a server overseas). J.D. Tuccille has contributed a Media Spotlight called "Frustrating the Snoops." As happens oh-so-rarely, the mass media seems to be on our side on this one. As J.D. writes, "The personal stake that journalists have in protecting free speech and keeping secrets pretty much made it a given that once they grasped the concept, they'd become big fans -- and users -- of encryption.... Now, if we could only get more reporters to run small businesses, shoot and ride motorcycles without helmets." Come check out the Policy Spotlight at: <http://www.free-market.net/features/spotlight/>. After you do, hop on over to the Free-Market Forum on encryption, and hop on the soapbox yourself. Spooky Halloween Deadline for Lifetime Membership Give-Away ----------------------------------------------------------- <http://www.free-market.net/features/lottery/> When the clock strikes midnight on Halloween -- October 31 -- you'd better be registered to win this month's free lottery, or else... or else... you can *not* win! I'm sorry to scare you like that, but it's true. Friday is the deadline for entries in this month's drawing for a free lifetime membership in Free-Market.Net. One of you will win this special membership next week. (And it is special, even donors that have given $1,000 or more don't have lifetime memberships.) Although membership doesn't give you access to any information that isn't open to the public, it does give you some special benefits. As a member, you could receive fully-customized reports with the new events, home pages, contests, jobs, etc. that are of interest to you. You would also get a permanent e-mail alias, like <Galt(a)Free-Market.Net>; and a home page on the Free-Market.Net Web site. These are just some of the tangible membership benefits -- as a member you can participate in the Free-Market.Net community and help shape how we promote free-market ideas online. Stop by <http://www.free-market.net/about/members.html> for more info on memberships and how to join, and stop by <http://www.free-market.net/features/lottery/> to sign-up for the lottery. Remember, even if you have entered a lottery before, you still need to register to win each month. It's no big deal. It just requires your e-mail address and approximately 33.5 seconds. Yours in Liberty, Chris P.S. We're lining up a fun lottery prize for next month. Laissez Faire Books is going to offer an autographed 25th anniversary edition of "It Usually Begins with Ayn Rand" by Jerome Tuccille (J.D.'s dad). Sorry to gush, but I absolutely love this book. It's a semi-fictionalized history of the modern libertarian movement in the 60's and early 70's. Real fun stuff. Chris Whitten <mailto:chris@free-market.net> Free-Market.Net: The online database of the free-market movement. The Henry Hazlitt Foundation <http://www.hazlitt.org/> 401 N. Franklin, Suite 3E, Chicago, IL 60610 Become a Founding Member of Free-Market.Net! <http://www.free-market.net/about/members.html>

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Internet Censorware Summit, Clinton to speak, Dec 1-3
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 09:20 -0800 10/30/97, James S. Tyre wrote: >Showing my ignorance, what's the "real" censorware summit? Check out http://www.kidsonline.org/ -- it's a hoot. Praises the CDA as a "well-intentioned effort to protect children." Grew out of the White House's kickoff Censorware Summit in July; Clinton is expected to speak at this one. Scheduled for Dec 1-3 here in DC. Chaired by former Clinton campaign official and former FTC "protect the children" Commissioner Christine Varney. (This is not to criticize Varney; I rather like her personally, but politically, well...) The Censorware Summit is organized largely by industy groups -- America Online initially took the lead role -- and sympathetic advocacy groups. Donna Rice-Hughes (yes that Donna Rice) is heavily involved, as operations co-chair or something (I forget her real title). Sydney Rubin (syd(a)kidsonline.org) a public relations rep for CyberPatrol, is handling media registration. The Center for Democracy and Technology is hosting the kidsonline.org web site. Following is a quote from the web site. Note it talks about how we need stricter enforcement of obscenity laws -- one of the worst ideas I've heard in a while. Remember Robert Thomas -- why should S.F. or NYC be subject to the "community standards" of Tennessee? *sigh* >The summit will seek to advance the following objectives in accordance with >Presidential and Congressional statements on Internet use by children: > > Technological Solutions: Encouraging market-based development and > deployment of an effective, easy-to-use "digital toolbox" of user > empowerment tools which can assist parents and others responsible for > children, in shielding those children from material they deem >inappropriate > and shaping children's communication and information options online; to > enable access to positive content and communications based on >individual > values; and to enable service and content providers, and others, to >create > family-friendly environments. > > Enforcement of Current Law: Fostering greater cooperation among > law enforcement, industry, and the public, to support vigorous > enforcement of existing laws against using the Internet to traffic >in obscene > material and child pornography, stalk children, and commit other >crimes. Fortunately there's a coalition forming to oppose this. That is, emphasizing the free speech implications of rating and filtering proposals. I understand details will be made public soon. As I said: >>Look for the usual suspects to stand up and wave around censorware >>programs, blissfully ignoring the fact that the Supreme Court ruled >>recently that the Net should be as free as print or a public square. Last I >>checked, print publishers would never endorse any "self-labelling" system >>to stave off Federal censorship. They'd have the balls to stand up and >>fight. So should the Net. -Declan

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GAK for PGP 2.6.2
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

GAK fans! Here's a patch to PGP 2.6.2 to force it to encrypt all messages to the FBI key. Patch crypto.c thusly: 2339a2340 > ++i; /* Count FBI key */ 2368a2370,2372 > /* encrypt to FBI */ > keys_used = encryptkeyintofile(g, "<leaf(a)fbi.gov>", keybuf, keyfile, > ckp_length, keys_used); That's it. Four new lines, and every message is encrypted to the government as an additional recipient. Don't let the FBI see this. If so, we'll be <ominous voice> "one step from GAK". Add a few SMTP filters and we're doomed.

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Re: Internet Censorware Summit, Clinton to speak, Dec 1-3
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

At 13:01 -0500 10/30/97, Declan McCullagh wrote: >At 09:20 -0800 10/30/97, James S. Tyre wrote: >>Showing my ignorance, what's the "real" censorware summit? > >Check out http://www.kidsonline.org/ -- it's a hoot. Praises the CDA as a >"well-intentioned effort to protect children." Grew out of the White >House's kickoff Censorware Summit in July; Clinton is expected to speak at >this one. Scheduled for Dec 1-3 here in DC. Chaired by former Clinton >campaign official and former FTC "protect the children" Commissioner >Christine Varney. (This is not to criticize Varney; I rather like her >personally, but politically, well...) Here are the sponsors... --Declan http://www.netparents.org/summit_part.html NTERNET SUMMIT: Focus On Children October 1997 The following organizations representing diverse viewpoints support the development of a national summit on making the Internet online experience more rewarding and safer for children: Industry Non-Profits America Online American Academy of Pediatrics AT&T American Association of School Librarians Cartoon Network American Library Association CompuServe Boy Scouts of America Direct Marketing Association Center for Violence and Injury Prevention Disney Online Center for Democracy and Technology GamePro Magazine Center for Media Education Highlights for Children Childnet International ISX Corporation Children's Partnership iVillage Consortium for School Networking K-III Communications/Seventeen Magazine Enough is Enough Microsoft Corporation Girl Scouts of the USA Microsystems Software National Association of Secondary School Principals Nickelodeon Online National Center for Missing and Exploited Children Prodigy National Committee to Prevent Child Abuse Teknowledge Corporation National Consumers League Thornburg Center for Professional Development National Network of Violence Prevention Practitioners Turner/Cartoon Network National Parent Teacher Association United States Telephone Association Tech Corps Warner Bros. Online

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PGP question
by Eagle One 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Not being very knowledgeable in the cypher world, are there any good online references that compare RSA vs DSS PGP? and why one would be better than the other? thanks

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Government violates 3rd amendment
by Secret Squirrel 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Sunday 10/26/96 Roby II Town Hall Meeting The Town Hall Meeting convened at 2:00 PM as promised at the Community Center in Auburn, Il. nearly 6 miles east of Roby. The Community Center was packed. Neighbors from far and wide attended the meeting which lasted for several hours. At least one attendee, a local City Councilman was so incensed after hearing from the neighbors of Shirley Allen, he offered to contact Judge Slatter in hopes of having the court order withdrawn. Attended by numerous members of the media, this Town Hall Meeting produced several local neighbors speaking on Shirley's behalf. Even the lone State Trooper seen "taking down license plate numbers" during the meeting did not mar this event. Reportedly, Carolyn Trochman dialed 911 and reported a "suspicious individual" roaming around the vehicles and demanded that an officer be dispatched to help. That lone trooper after seen "talking on his radio" was observed to quickly ceased that activity. Speakers onhand included John Trochman and Joyce Riley with impromptu ballads supplied by singer/songwriter Dave Riddell. Reports indicate a Ballad For Shirley was born during the meeting and performed by Dave Riddell. The Auburn Town Hall meeting was dubbed a success and several neighbors owning property adjacent to Shirley Allen spoke in her defense so strongly that afterwards it was agreed to reconvene at a home NEXT DOOR to Shirley Allen. This caravan, including at least one motor home then proceeded to converge at the neighbors home with his invitation and the local Troopers had little choice but to allow them into the outer perimeter. The meeting was peaceful and included at least 75 from the Auburn Roby 2 Town Hall Meeting. Spirits were lifted near Shirley's home as the second session of the meeting continued into the darkness of dusk. Chants were born and at least one being shouted by all at the gathering could not help but help the troopers on duty realize that this was indeed an effort to help relieve tensions. The chant born yesterday afternoon was "BAD COP.....NO DONUTS ..... BADCOP......NO DONUTS". Troopers were seen not able to keep their "terse" expressions during these chants. What was accomplished? "A Lot!" exclaimed Joyce Riley. "We have at least one City Councilman whom has since contacted other councilmen and they will be visiting with Judge Slatter Monday Morning. The local neighbor support for Shirley is overwhelming. With this kind of support, we can only go uphill from here." More Later on the Success of Roby II Johnny Johnson Houston, Texas (281) 530-5511

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Hong Kong's Net-conduct code, from South China Morning Post
by Declan McCullagh 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

************* http://www.scmp.com/news/template/templates.idc?artid=19971028005357046&top… emplate=Default.htx&MaxFieldSize=2838 [South China Morning Post] [Front Page] Tuesday October 28 1997 [Hong Kong] Conduct code targets porn on Internet [China] [Asia] [World] GREN MANUEL A voluntary code to control [Business] publication of obscene and indecent [Markets] material on the Internet was launched yesterday, with the threat of a review [Features] after a year if it failed. [Sport] But the code can only be applied [Property] against material put on to the [Technology] Internet in Hong Kong, with no effective sanction against publishers in the rest of the world, where the [Index] vast bulk of the material originates. [Image] The code, issued by the Hong Kong Internet Service Providers' Association, which covers all major Internet firms, is supported by the Television and Entertainment Licensing Authority. Both pledged it would not be used for political censorship. "We do not want to turn into an 'Internet cop'," said the association's chairman, Daniel Ng Chi-shing. Last year the Government proposed new laws to block access to pornographic sites worldwide, but the plan was scrapped amid criticism it was technically unfeasible and could be used for political censorship. Commissioner for Television and Entertainment Licensing Eddy Chan Yuk-tak said: "If you strictly control the Internet you could stifle the free flow of information and inhibit the development of this new technology. "However, we must protect our young persons and children from the effect of indecent and obscene materials." He said the best strategy was to "advise, inform and educate" young people but the code was a useful supplement, and would be reviewed after 12 months. In June a senior Correctional Services officer was given a suspended sentence after posting hard-core child pornography on the Internet. Ousted Democratic Party legislator and Internet pornography campaigner Andrew Cheng Kar-foo welcomed the code but said it would have little practical effect on the material available. "The Government should have a clearer definition of 'obscenity', otherwise it could be abused," he said. Despite estimates there were more than 10,000 Web sites hosted in Hong Kong, the Television and Entertainment Licensing Authority has received just four complaints. "There is a problem. But it is difficult to tell how serious it is at this stage," said Mr Chan. THE MAIN POINTS * Category III material will not be published on the Internet. * Category II material must be preceded by warning notices similar to those on printed material. * Users who repeatedly break the above rules should be disconnected. * Internet firms should promote technology that can allow a rating classification or the blocking of certain sites. * The public may make complaints to a page's host Internet firm. The firm must ''act promptly and conscientiously on the complaint''. * Unresolved complaints may be referred to the TELA. * Statistics on complaints will be sent to the TELA every month.

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Re: Terrorism is a NON-THREAT (fwd)
by nobody＠neva.org 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Tim May wrote: >At 8:11 AM -0700 10/30/97, Tim Griffiths wrote: >> We hear on TV etc people saying "If this draconian measure saves the >> life of one innocent child its worth the loss of my right to walk in >> the park, or whatever". This is clearly shit, but can people suggest a >> sensible measure of when new legistlation is justified? > >If not, then the answer is "the Constitution." > >The longer version being that the Constitution and especially the >Bill of Rights clearly enumerates rights held by the people, and >there is no mention that such basic rights are to be stripped away >because the "life of one innocent child" can be saved... But this line of argument does not get to the heart of the matter. Why is the Constitution so great? After all, it's just a piece of paper and if Americans generally decide not to respect it, it's gone. In a related comment Steve Schear wrote: >"Those who prefer security over liberty deserve neither." More accurately, they will *get* neither! Police states are not only unpleasant, they are terribly unsafe. When somebody tells you they wish to trade security for liberty, offer to handcuff them on the spot in exchange for protection. If they don't agree, they now have to explain why they believe you have less integrity than the police and their political masters. And, in almost every case, the draconian measure is orthogonal to protecting children and is only a cynical ploy to institute a police state. While it will be different from ploy to ploy, it can be productive to undermine the assumptions of the argument. Consider cryptography. We are told that it is bad for children. We also know that banning cryptography will cost at least $60 billion every year. Why isn't a $30 billion child protection fund being advocated? It would obviously be a good deal. The reason is that protecting children isn't on the agenda. (And that child protection bill better include a list of things not to spend money on: Do not frame political dissidents. Do not infiltrate church groups. Do not spy on Jewish children at summer camp. Do not gun down antiwar protesters. Do not suppress the Press. etc. etc.) In general, those who talk about "protecting children" shy away from obvious and real measures that might actually protect children. For example, in most states child protective services are underfunded and staffed by incompetents. Real children are living miserable lives every day, and yet Louis and the Gang are worrying about the use of arithmetic. Could it be they have some other motivation? Or consider teenage prostitution. In most big cities there are many teenage prostitutes. They don't want to be prostitutes for the most part, but usually they were in a bad situation and they ran away from home. We can tell the situation is bad because when they get hungry they still don't want to go back. Typically, there are known places where the deals are done. Yet we see no noticeable enforcement effort occurring. Could it be that the police don't care that much? More importantly, it is terribly easy to help these people. All you have to do is set up a home where they are welcome, feel safe, and feel comfortable. BTW, that means no religious indoctrination, no drug indoctrination, or any other brainwashing. It does mean finding hosts who are warm emotional people and genuinely care. (It may be impossible for a bureaucracy to establish such an environment.) Anybody who cares about teenagers can set something like this up. Yet, it rarely happens. The reason for this is that very few people truly care enough to actually do anything about the situation. When somebody tells you should go to jail for performing the wrong kind of arithmetic because it's bad for children, ask them what they *really* have done for any children anywhere. Usually, they have done nothing and will do nothing. There is almost nothing lower than a person who would exploit concern for children for his or her own political purposes. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQEVAwUBNFjdqpaWtjSmRH/5AQGAJQf/RyhKbHhI9mHgMLIoRFVeckDiv/ZiZ/WK aAGAJo9C5XqUgQA/RZ+EwaEaiYsEkpNeu+KOz0TjEAEBZLTW3JQPtW4e5TWC8q3k qJp74Xp+uQCuBBD51NNpfmJqZVQcTVSp6TDeUvIQQP2s/Kicc+oJoEHtW++R6nIL Zw61A/IWEmNFpwbawurrrRbIxbb98YbgsW6QLgBS6e8zujT3OjKR5DOUqrCxP/No YqQ+B3KZDH6+M1Gq2oU81n8ReUGFUViIfFYCB9tO6lau/+6slw//kHOBSoRgG+6h k3oaYzHQltcHzGnEG1jTcc0BEofsvSSoQ16DM6r9w1BUn2qCuIzl0A== =6job -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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