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Re: Key Signing
by lcs Mixmaster Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

>BTW, I was farting around and discovered that I could change the >password on a revoked secret key. This means that someone can crack >the password on your revoked secret key if they have access to it. >This would make your new key vulnerable if you used the same password. > >I suppose this qualifies as PGP trivia, but if it saves the life of >just one fascist dicator... > >!Knott (Who's dare?) When I read this a quote from Independance Day came to mind. The aliens just blew up New York and a cable exec is sitting in his car. As the firestorm comes towards him and he's facing both immiment death by being crushed by cars displaced by the explosion and becoming a Whopper(tm) from the firestorm he looks out and says simply: "Ohhhhhhhh craaaaaaap."

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Woodwose.Nym
by Benjamin Chad Wienke 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Jim Bell's Mug Shot
by John Young 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Jim Bell's mug shot from US News (and mine): http://jya.com/jbjy.jpg The terrifying story itself: http://jya.com/next-wave.htm

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Re: Tim May's offensive racism (was: about RC4)
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Joichi Ito, <jito(a)eccosys.com>, writes: > And not all Japanese are racist pigs. And before you flank me, > I take back my previous remark where I insinuated that Americans > were racist. Not all Americans are racists. Just the stupid ones are. This is not true. Tim May is not stupid. He is insensitive and bigoted, violent and dangerous. He is certainly a racist, and believes in the superiority of the white race. But he is not stupid.

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What cypherpunks used to be
by Anonymous 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

Cypherpunks assume privacy is a good thing and wish there were more of it. Cypherpunks acknowledge that those who want privacy must create it for themselves and not expect governments, corporations, or other large, faceless organizations to grant them privacy out of beneficence. Cypherpunks know that people have been creating their own privacy for centuries with whispers, envelopes, closed doors, and couriers. Cypherpunks do not seek to prevent other people from speaking about their experiences or their opinions. The most important means to the defense of privacy is encryption. To encrypt is to indicate the desire for privacy. But to encrypt with weak cryptography is to indicate not too much desire for privacy. Cypherpunks hope that all people desiring privacy will learn how best to defend it. Cypherpunks are therefore devoted to cryptography. Cypherpunks wish to learn about it, to teach it, to implement it, and to make more of it. Cypherpunks know that cryptographic protocols make social structures. Cypherpunks know how to attack a system and how to defend it. Cypherpunks know just how hard it is to make good cryptosystems. Cypherpunks love to practice. They love to play with public key cryptography. They love to play with anonymous and pseudonymous mail forwarding and delivery. They love to play with DC-nets. They love to play with secure communications of all kinds. Cypherpunks write code. They know that someone has to write code to defend privacy, and since it's their privacy, they're going to write it. Cypherpunks publish their code so that their fellow cypherpunks may practice and play with it. Cypherpunks realize that security is not built in a day and are patient with incremental progress. Cypherpunks don't care if you don't like the software they write. Cypherpunks know that software can't be destroyed. Cypherpunks know that a widely dispersed system can't be shut down. This is why cypherpunks itself is a distributed mailing list. Cypherpunks will make the networks safe for privacy.

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Announcing a disposable remailer
by Benjamin Chad Wienke 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

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Fwd: RNC/Lister's Calls Marines "Dangerous", "Extremists"
by Robert Hettinga 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

--- begin forwarded text From: <Somebody> Date: Fri, 14 Nov 1997 14:20:08 -0500 (EST) To: rah(a)shipwright.com, <A bunch of other people...> Subject: Fwd: RNC/Lister's Calls Marines "Dangerous", "Extremists" I'm sure you all saw this in the newspapers and on TV. The media were on it like... like..., well, like media in pursuit of Democrats. I don't know why I thought of <one of above bunch> Re: Br'er Tim.... I was sure Bob's mother taught him better than to get into a pissing match with the business end of a sewer. <Somebody's .sig> --------------------- Forwarded message: From: shenry2(a)ix.netcom.com (Sean Henry) Sender: PRESSLIST(a)rnc.org (RNC Press List) Reply-to: shenry2(a)ix.netcom.com (Sean Henry) To: PRESSLIST(a)BRONZE.RNC.ORG (Multiple recipients of list PRESSLIST) Date: 97-11-13 16:29:57 EST RNC News Release November 13, 1997 Nicholson Calls On Assistant Army Secretary To Step Down Lister Calls Marines "Dangerous," "Extremists" Republican National Committee Chairman Jim Nicholson today called on Assistant Secretary of the Army Sara E. Lister to resign her position, following a speech in which she referred to U.S. Marines as "extremists," and "a little dangerous." "It's astonishing that Secretary Lister has chosen to denigrate the Marine Corps, and it is absolutely unacceptable to have a person with this kind of mindset in a position of power at the Pentagon," Nicholson said. "For the good of the morale of America's Armed Forces, she should publicly apologize and resign immediately." Lister, one of President Clinton's Pentagon appointees, told a panel of academics and military personnel at Harvard University's Olin Institute in Baltimore on October 26, that "The Marines are extremists. Wherever you have extremists, you've got some risks of total disconnection with society. And that's a little dangerous." "These 'extremists' have fought and died for our country for more than two centuries," Nicholson said, noting that the Marine Corps celebrated its 222nd anniversary November 10. "Service secretaries are supposed to support our men and women in uniform, not publicly degrade their valor. Her remarks serve as evidence of her ignorance about what it takes to assemble and maintain an effective fighting unit." Nicholson, a retired Army colonel, Army Ranger in Vietnam and West Point graduate, said Lister's comments are reflective of what he called the Clinton Administration's anti-military attitude. "Bill Clinton wrote that he 'loathed' the military and he's apparently appointed people who share his anti-military view," Nicholson said. Rising tensions between the U.S. and Iraq also demonstrate the need for effective military leadership. "A person with such a negative attitude toward the patriots who serve in uniform has no business in any military organization," Nicholson said. "With this administration contemplating the use of military force in response to Saddam Hussein's lawless arrogance, it is inexcusable for the Assistant Secretary of the Army to insult the very men and women who would be on the front lines." (Visit http://www.rnc.org for the latest news and information) --- end forwarded text ----------------- Robert Hettinga (rah(a)shipwright.com) Philodox e$, 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' The e$ Home Page: http://www.shipwright.com/ Ask me about FC98 in Anguilla!: <http://www.fc98.ai/>

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Re: What cypherpunks used to be
by nobody＠REPLAY.COM 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

evolve or die

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No Subject
by bureau42 Anonymous Remailer 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

15 Nov 97 at 0:45, Anonymous wrote: > Tim May writes: > >At 10:55 AM -0700 11/14/97, Anonymous wrote: > > > >>If you don't speak up when someone says something objectionable, > >>you are implicitly condoning it. Silence gives consent. No it does not. Silence may mean you are to appalled to even post! > >>How many > >>people have objected to Tim May's racist comments? Only one or > >>two. How many objected when William Geiger suggested that more > >>nuclear bombs should have been dropped on Japan? Maybe the little marine was right about that. > >through my archived mail), along the lines of: "I fully expect to > >wake up some morning and hear that some terrorist nuke has > >destroyed Washington, D.C. I can't say I'll be crying." > > Try this: > > : To: cypherpunks(a)algebra.com > : From: Tim May <tcmay(a)got.net> > : Subject: Snickering at the Compromisers > : Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 16:03:37 -0800 > : > : For the 3rd or 4th time, I have never advocated terrorism, at > least not of : a physical sort. I have said I hope to see D.C. > nuked, which is hardly the : same as "advocating" terrorism in any > meaningful sense > You admit here that you've said you hope to see D.C. nuked. > > Do you really hope that D.C. gets nuked? Do other list readers > agree? No way. But I feel, at times, it's bad enough to be *reading* that stuff let alone posting about it! > How many people would this kill? Over half a million live in > the city proper, with millions more in the surrounding areas. You > have now said that you would hope to see many of these millions of > people killed. I think "nuke DC" has become almost a turn of the phrase, these days. > It is this kind of support for depraved violence which has poisoned > discourse on this mailing list. It is unconscionable to support > such an act of cold-blooded terrorism. > > You're not even the worst. Other posters have supported this kind > of sickening violence even more openly. No one complains. OK. Here I go. I come down on the complaining side. > Apparently everyone with an ounce of moral sense has left the list > long ago. Nope. Just lurking. > >>At one time the cypherpunks stood for freedom of speech and > >>protection of privacy. Today they stand for guns, violence, > >>threats of terrorism and murder, racism, homophobia, jingoism. Those things all go hand in hand. > >I've been here since the beginning...since before the beginning, > >actually. And I can tell you that the "political incorrectness" was > >the same in 1992-4 as now. Perhaps you recall a little thing called > >Waco that happened around that time? Go back and read the traffic. I first signed on in 1994. > You seem to think that the only problem with Waco is that the wrong > innocents were killed. You have no problem taking out innocents in > Washington D.C. if it lets you get at your enemies. You are no > different from the agents who killed the men, women and children in > Waco. You have no right to set yourself apart from them. You are as > ruthless and violent as the worst of them. > > This list reeks of death and violence. Apparently there is no > problem which can't be solved by killing. Kill the innocents of > D.C. Kill the children in the day care center in Oklahoma City. > Drop more bombs on Japan. Cheer the cold-blooded murder of a > government agent. Kill the children who scrawl graffiti on your > mailbox. Well, I used to say Kill Them All And Let God Sort Them Out back when I was in the military. NoMongerHere

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Re: Jim Bell's Mug Shot
by Blanc 17 Dec '03

17 Dec '03

John Young wrote: >Jim Bell's mug shot from US News (and mine): > > http://jya.com/jbjy.jpg ............................................. Well, John, this is kind of amusing - why in the world did you put your photos together? You could become confused as being associated, you know. .. Blanc

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