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[Clips] "Clippre": Police ask for tough new powers
by R.A. Hettinga 23 Jul '05

23 Jul '05

--- begin forwarded text Delivered-To: clips(a)philodox.com Date: Fri, 22 Jul 2005 19:43:26 -0400 To: Philodox Clips List <clips(a)philodox.com> From: "R.A. Hettinga" <rah(a)shipwright.com> Subject: [Clips] "Clippre": Police ask for tough new powers Reply-To: rah(a)philodox.com Sender: clips-bounces(a)philodox.com Here we go again... >They also want to make it a criminal offence for suspects to refuse to >cooperate in giving the police full access to computer files by refusing >to disclose their encryption keys. Cheers, RAH -------- <http://www.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,5245014-117079,00.html> The Guardian Police ask for tough new powers PM told of need for three-month detention of suspects and crackdown on websites Alan Travis and Richard Norton-Taylor Friday July 22, 2005 Police last night told Tony Blair that they need sweeping new powers to counter the terrorist threat, including the right to detain a suspect for up to three months without charge instead of the current 14 days. Senior officers also want powers to attack and close down websites, and a new criminal offence of using the internet to prepare acts of terrorism, to "suppress inappropriate internet usage". They also want to make it a criminal offence for suspects to refuse to cooperate in giving the police full access to computer files by refusing to disclose their encryption keys. The police would also like to see much clearer information given to the public about the threat level, the creation of a specialist border security agency and further discussions about the use of phonetap evidence in terrorist cases. The Association of Chief Police Officers published its list of 11 further changes in the law it wants after meeting Mr Blair and security services chiefs yesterday. MI5 and MI6 wanted yesterday's meeting to discuss Britain's entire counter-terrorism strategy and how to fill the intelligence gaps exposed by the London bombings. Whitehall officials confirmed that, as reported in yesterday's Guardian, the security and intelligence agencies want a new system of plea bargaining. Convicted terrorists would be given lighter sentences if they supplied information before their trials. Suspects would be given the chance to provide information in "intelligence-only" interviews and none of the information would be used against them in trials. Officials also said MI5 was "in principle" in favour of the product of phone taps being used as evidence in trials. What has not been resolved is who would pay for the resources needed to transcribe the tapes in a way that would satisfy defence lawyers, according to counter-terrorism sources. The prime minister has said he is willing to consider any "gaps in the law" that police and security chiefs identify as a result of the London attacks. Ken Jones, the chairman of Acpo's terrorism committee and Sussex chief constable, said: "The evolving nature of the current threat from international terrorism demands that those charged with countering the threat have the tools they need to do the job. "Often there is a need to intervene and disrupt at an early stage those who are intent on terrorist activity, in order to protect the public. Clearly our legislation must reflect the importance of such disruptive action." The most controversial of the police proposals is the demand to be able to hold without charge a terrorist suspect for three months instead of 14 days. An Acpo spokesman said the complexity and scale of counter-terrorist operations means the 14-day maximum is often insufficient. "The complexities and timescales surrounding forensic examination of [crime] scenes merely add to the burden and immense time pressures on investigating officers," he said. Three-month periods would help to ensure the charge could be sustained in court. Other powers police told Mr Blair they needed include: 7 Terror suspects to give compulsory answers to questions similar to obligations on company directors in fraud trials; 7 A duty on the private sector to install protective security in designated locations; 7 Putting private security staff at the disposal of the police in the immediate aftermath of an outrage; 7 New generation CCTV cameras at ports and airports. The police sought extra funding for a regional network of Special Branch officers and a further #45m to ensure national coverage for the new generation CCTV cameras, which scan number plates and alert intercept teams. "The terrorist attacks in London on July 7 and today provide an opportunity for us to reflect on our systems and practices to ensure they are sufficient to counter such unprecedented events," Mr Jones said. -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' _______________________________________________ Clips mailing list Clips(a)philodox.com http://www.philodox.com/mailman/listinfo/clips --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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by Eugen Leitl 23 Jul '05

23 Jul '05

Link: http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/07/22/178227 Posted by: Zonk, on 2005-07-22 18:14:00 from the among-other-things dept. flip-flop writes "In the wake of recent terrorist attacks, police here in the UK [1]have asked for sweeping new powers they claim will help them counter the threat. Among these is making it a criminal offense for people to refuse disclosing their encryption keys when the police want to access someone's files." From the article: "The most controversial of the police proposals is the demand to be able to hold without charge a terrorist suspect for three months instead of 14 days. An Acpo spokesman said the complexity and scale of counter-terrorist operations means the 14-day maximum is often insufficient." References 1. http://www.guardian.co.uk/attackonlondon/story/0,16132,1533917,00.html ----- End forwarded message ----- -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org">leitl</a> ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.leitl.org 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature which had a name of signature.asc]

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22 Jul '05

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Re: [Clips] [dave@farber.net: [IP] Police use cameras to track vehicles of suspects]
by R.A. Hettinga 21 Jul '05

21 Jul '05

--- begin forwarded text >Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2005 17:05:05 -0700 (PDT) >From: "G. Gruff" <g_gruff(a)yahoo.com> >Subject: Re: [Clips] [dave(a)farber.net: [IP] Police use cameras to track >vehicles of suspects] >To: rah(a)philodox.com > >Heh, heh, heh.....more'n one way to skin a radar camera... ><http://www.phantomplate.com/photoblocker.html>http://www.phantomplate.com/photoblocker.html > >Apparently works. There's measured outrage against it. > >ffurgy_|_gruffy, reporting from the Mad Hatter's Flash-Block Seminar > > >"R.A. Hettinga" <rah(a)shipwright.com> wrote: > > >--- begin forwarded text > > >Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 17:59:51 +0200 >From: Eugen Leitl >To: transhumantech(a)yahoogroups.com, cypherpunks(a)jfet.org >Subject: [dave(a)farber.net: [IP] Police use cameras to track vehicles of >suspects] >User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.9i >Sender: owner-cypherpunks(a)jfet.org > >----- Forwarded message from David Farber ----- > >From: David Farber >Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 11:49:17 -0400 >To: Ip ip >Subject: [IP] Police use cameras to track vehicles of suspects >X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.733) >Reply-To: dave(a)farber.net > > > >Begin forwarded message: > >From: Bruce Schneier >Date: July 20, 2005 11:04:17 AM EDT >To: EPIC_IDOF(a)mailman.epic.org >Subject: [EPIC_IDOF] Police use cameras to track vehicles of suspects > > >I've written about this in New Haven, CT: > >http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2004/10/license_plate_g.html > >This new story is from Scotland. > >Bruce > >**************************** > >Police use cameras to track vehicles of suspects > >http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/43417.html > >LUCY ADAMS, Home Affairs Correspondent July 20 2005 > > >POLICE have created a database of more than 6000 vehicles of suspects >which they can track on special cameras as they move around the country. > >On major roads across Scotland, the cameras, which look similar to >the speed ones, record thousands of licence plates every hour and >scan them against the database. > >Those on the list are flagged up with the local force control room >with details of the direction in which they are travelling. Depending >on the intelligence held on the motorist, the vehicle could be >stopped immediately by officers or monitored during its journey. > >Senior police say there are a "substantial number" of cameras across >the country aimed at detecting drugs traffickers, sex offenders, >suspected terrorists and banned or unlicensed drivers. Owners on the >list are not told, and civil rights campaigners have raised concerns >about whether the scheme is compatible with human rights legislation. > >However, officers say Automatic Number Plate Recognition (ANPR), >originally created for counter-terrorism, is a vital tool in >collecting intelligence on criminals and suspected terrorists. > >Alan Burnett, spokesman on the system for the Association of Chief >Police Officers in Scotland, and assistant chief constable of Fife, >said: "It is directed against detecting travelling housebreakers, >potential terrorists, bogus callers and drug traffickers. This >technology is very much geared towards disrupting criminals such as >drug traffickers and it is not about prosecuting the motorist." > >He said it was nothing to do with speeding or Big Brother, adding >that there were various lengths of time over which they could hold >the information: "A stolen vehicle may be on the list for two days, >but more serious intelligence may be kept on the list for up to 90 >days." > >The Scottish Executive has spent ?1.5m on ANPR machines which can >check up to 3000 licence plates an hour on vehicles travelling at >speeds of up to 100mph. Forces are planning to connect this database >to the Scottish Intelligence Database (SID) to allow every officer to >be able to request that a vehicle of interest should be checked. > >It is managed by the Scottish Criminal Records Office where a >sergeant is responsible for checking the information is held only for >a certain time and that it is compliant with human rights legislation. > >John Scott, head of the Scottish Human Rights Centre, said he was >concerned about the lack of judicial scrutiny. > >_______________________________________________ >EPIC_IDOF mailing list >EPIC_IDOF(a)mailman.epic.org >https://mailman.epic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/epic_idof > > >------------------------------------- >You are subscribed as eugen(a)leitl.org >To manage your subscription, go to >http://v2.listbox.com/member/?listname=ip > >Archives at: http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/ > >----- End forwarded message ----- >-- >Eugen* Leitl <http://leitl.org/>leitl >______________________________________________________________ >ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.leitl.org >8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE > >[demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type application/pgp-signature >which had a name of signature.asc] > >--- end forwarded text > > >-- >----------------- >R. A. Hettinga >The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation >44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA >"... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, >[predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to >experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' >_______________________________________________ >Clips mailing list >Clips(a)philodox.com >http://www.philodox.com/mailman/listinfo/clips > > > >Gruffy: JPFO, Semper Fi to the Bill of Rights (RIP) Molon Labe! Let's >dance! Alaska Historical Society, Hope Historical Society -Headed for >Alaska? 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by Eugen Leitl 21 Jul '05

21 Jul '05

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by Eugen Leitl 21 Jul '05

21 Jul '05

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by Eugen Leitl 20 Jul '05

20 Jul '05

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by Eugen Leitl 20 Jul '05

20 Jul '05

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