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[Clips] Dutch Court Orders Lycos To Reveal Client's Identity
by R. A. Hettinga 25 Nov '05

25 Nov '05

"Regulatory Arbitrage" continues to go the way of "Devine Right of Kings"... Cheers, RAH ------ --- begin forwarded text Delivered-To: clips(a)philodox.com Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 11:59:27 -0500 To: Philodox Clips List <clips(a)philodox.com> From: "R. A. Hettinga" <rah(a)shipwright.com> Subject: [Clips] Dutch Court Orders Lycos To Reveal Client's Identity Reply-To: rah(a)philodox.com Sender: clips-bounces(a)philodox.com <http://online.wsj.com/article_print/BT-CO-20051125-002595.html> The Wall Street Journal November 25, 2005 11:27 a.m. EST Dutch Court Orders Lycos To Reveal Client's Identity DOW JONES NEWSWIRES November 25, 2005 11:27 a.m. -- THE HAGUE (AP)--The Dutch Supreme Court Friday ordered Internet company Lycos Europe NV (LCY.XE) to reveal the identity of a client in a benchmark decision on privacy that was praised by copyright groups as a way to go after illegal swapping of music and movies online. It is the first ruling of its kind in the Netherlands on Internet privacy and could have far-reaching consequences for other Internet providers. The country's highest court ruled that Lycos wrongly protected the identity of a user who anonymously posted slanderous allegations against an Internet postage stamp dealer on a member site. The dealer, who traded stamps on auction site Ebay Inc. (EBAY), was accused of cheating buyers. The claimant, identified in court documents only as A. Pessers, took Lycos to court in 2003, seeking the details of its client so he could seek financial damages allegedly resulting from the allegations. Supreme Court spokesman Steven Bakker said the court found Pessers' claim of having suffered damages sufficient to order Lycos to release the client's name and address, even though no criminal offense had been committed. It issued a sweeping rejection of Lycos' argument that personal client details should only be released if they are suspected of a crime and the information is wanted by the police. "The court considers it probable that the information posted on the Web site is illegal and damaging to Pessers," the ruling said. "Pessers has a genuine interest in obtaining the client's details and there is no other way to obtain them." The Brain Institute, which represents the global entertainment industry in the Netherlands, said in a statement that the ruling will enable it to seek damages from people who illegally swap copyrighted software, music and movies over the Internet. -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' _______________________________________________ Clips mailing list Clips(a)philodox.com http://www.philodox.com/mailman/listinfo/clips --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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Re: "Copying"...what does that mean?
by Major Variola (ret) 24 Nov '05

24 Nov '05

At 12:46 PM 11/22/05 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: >As I said before, if a "sample" is copying, how small a sample are we >talking about? Look-->0101 >I sampled Britney and that's what I got. I'm therefore copying and could go >to jail. I probably won't go to jail, though, unless I eat into someone's >profits or piss off individuals in the government. "Five" is too short to be copyrightable. A longer segment would be. I once asked, can Intel's "ding dong dong-dong-dong" be copyrighted? The answer is essentially, to be a glib information theoriest, if the chances of picking that sequence are sufficiently small. Of course, given that its humanly perceptable, shifting the whole sequence by a large number of Hz is also irrelevant, since humans (except for pitch-perfect folks) will perceive it as the same. OTOH, a parodist can use perfect copies if the context distinguishes the content.

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laptop security
by Major Variola (ret) 24 Nov '05

24 Nov '05

US officials have in recent months shared with experts from the IAEA and other countries classified details of tens of thousands of pages of technical information recovered from a stolen Iranian laptop. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/11/24/wiran24.xml… Of course, this source-id could be disinfo..

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[Clips] [N-B] Cybernetic Sovereignty
by R. A. Hettinga 24 Nov '05

24 Nov '05

--- begin forwarded text Delivered-To: clips(a)philodox.com Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 14:47:21 -0500 To: "Philodox Clips List" <clips(a)philodox.com> From: "R. A. Hettinga" <rah(a)shipwright.com> Subject: [Clips] [N-B] Cybernetic Sovereignty Reply-To: rah(a)philodox.com Sender: clips-bounces(a)philodox.com --- begin forwarded text Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys Comment: DomainKeys? See http://antispam.yahoo.com/domainkeys To: nation-builders(a)yahoogroups.com User-Agent: eGroups-EW/0.82 From: "HM Cesidio Tallini" <hmcesidio(a)hotmail.com> Sender: nation-builders(a)yahoogroups.com Mailing-List: list nation-builders(a)yahoogroups.com; contact nation-builders-owner(a)yahoogroups.com Delivered-To: mailing list nation-builders(a)yahoogroups.com Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2005 18:43:58 -0000 Subject: [N-B] Cybernetic Sovereignty Reply-To: nation-builders(a)yahoogroups.com Hi nation-builders and other assorted independent-minded folks! I'm a busy adult student in 2 university programs of study (Information Technology and Naturopathy), and I also do freelance work, and a lot of work over the Internet, so I don't have too much time to answer questions directly here, although I'll definitely try to answer a few polite ones. I wish to briefly inform you, in case you weren't aware yet, that the ICANN root server system you are currently probably using, isn't the only Internet out there. As far as I was able to verify first hand through DiGs, there are at least 6 authentic root server systems out there, ICANN included, and only one of these is a copy of ICANN (the European Open Root Server Network), so basically 4 are alternative root/alternative TLD systems. However, 2 of these other roots are on their way towards collapse, just as the AlterNIC, eDNS, and Pacific Root that preceded them, and 2 are strictly commercial enterprises where nation-builders and their needs don't matter, and where even the root itself is not a public service, and thus not a real alternative to ICANN either. In August 2005 I discovered through a brilliant IT friend who had moved to the Netherlands to work with the Public-Root more closely, that despite its high technical status, the Public-Root was not a root that was run by decent and/or honest people. In fact, we even found out that real IRA terrorists had become involved with the root, probably for the purpose of money laundering, and the CEO of the Public-Root/INAIC was also involved with all kinds of tax evasion schemes. As things stood, I realized that it was only a question of time, and the Public-Root too would become a dinosaur, just like all the other alternative roots that preceded it. I also became aware that a hacker well-known to Interpol was in charge of the Public-Root's master root server, and this meant that financial transactions could possibly be intercepted through root data. Having invested thousands of dollars in 10 Top-Level Domains (TLDs) for a cybernetic world I was building, I soon realized that I had wasted a lot of money, and I didn't have the option to contact ICANN to see if they would accept my TLDs in their root zone files. After finding out that an alternative root, that had begun in the wake of the collapsing Public-Root, was only commercial in nature, and the people involved were no more reliable than the people behind the Public-Root, I found myself "between a rock and a hard place". Yet God may have been looking over me, and has made me get involved in the Internet in ways I would have never even dreamed of, even just a few months ago. On 23 November 2005, a 7th root system was born after a 2-month period of development and testing: the Cesidian Root. At the moment the Cesidian Root has the entire ICANN namespace, as well as my 10 Top-Level Domains (TLDs) in its root zone files. Let me make it clear that this root is totally independent of ICANN, so much so that if ICANN went blank tomorrow morning, if the Internet as you know it just collapsed, the Cesidian Root would survive without the least bit of hesitation. We currently have only a single master root server in Northern Italy, but I have people with me that are knowledgeable and bright enough to put even ICANN to shame. If you wish to help by volunteering to run a spare root server for us, you can help add greater stability and redundancy to this root, since this is the only thing it lacks. I'm hoping to gather at least another 3 to 7 servers around the planet in the next few years, especially on the North American and Australian continents, for the purpose of growing the Cesidian Root into a small, yet highly dependable "People's Root". If you wish to help this King of a Fifth World nation (yes, that is another job of mine...), whom God seems to be watching over, and pushing ever forward in the direction of autonomy, independence, and even sovereignty, then please visit the web site below, and contact me through the form-mail on that page. http://root.cyberterra.com Thank you for your time and patience in reading this message. Cesidio Tallini Father of the Fifth World movement Founder and President of the Cesidian Root ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/OGYolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/nation-builders/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: nation-builders-unsubscribe(a)yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' _______________________________________________ Clips mailing list Clips(a)philodox.com http://www.philodox.com/mailman/listinfo/clips --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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[dave@farber.net: [IP] New US intelligence center to exploit publicly available information]]
by Eugen Leitl 24 Nov '05

24 Nov '05

----- Forwarded message from David Farber <dave(a)farber.net> -----

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Re: ATTN: for-profit Tor operators
by Major Variola (ret) 24 Nov '05

24 Nov '05

At 11:17 AM 11/23/05 +0100, Eugen Leitl wrote: >Tor exit policy to be determined. No snooping on exit traffic, >no logs. How do you assure your cu$tomers that this is enforced? Game over. Careful with that tor, eugene.

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Re: "Copying"...what does that mean?
by Major Variola (ret) 23 Nov '05

23 Nov '05

At 05:10 PM 11/21/05 -0500, Tyler Durden wrote: > >Yes, I basically agree. But on the other hand, a bootleg in the old days >meant braking laws regarding illicit recording of an event. (As I remember) >you also broke a law regarding the copyright of the performance. Cassette >copies of vinyl were a tiny bit tricky, and the "gap" allowed for copying >for home use and maybe for a few friends. Lossy (cassette) copies were illegal if you sold or disseminated to too-broad a category of "associates". Perfect (digital) copies are not illegal if the associates are limited; the past several jobs I've had, I've shared my ripped collection of physical-CDs without worry, inside the local net. >Basically, this was what I was wondering. When we move from the analog >domain to the digital, how does one identify the data? It's no longer a >series of 1s and 0s, because I can change the 1s in 0s in a non-correctable >way (which is what happens with lossy compression) and still go to jail for >transmitting that bitstream. You want something operational, so: a very low-res copy is the same. This works for MP3s vs. CDs, etc. In practice, a judge will say that perceptually similar (semantic) copies are copies. This is also true for eg trademarks. >Unlike some Cypherpunks, I'm more litely anti-statist: One can only claim >legitimacy for a state if the laws are well defined enough so as to allow >for nonarbitrary enforcement (and I only said "claim", so I don't need >killin...yet). A state which protects individuals against harm from others is pretty much defensible. Those that need killing (impeachment, fragging, etc) are those who abuse this "right" of violence. There are some who don't hold that the State has any justification for that role, but that is amoral. In the vacuum, thugs rule. (Cf any state which has no effective power.) >Of course, there are probably legal arguments made somewhere that refer to >the perceived identity of a track or sample, so I guess what I'm really >asking is if anyone knows what they are and if they make any sense (aside >from giving big corporates the ability to whack any college student they >want to make an example of). The RIAA/MPAA would use low-res similarity matching, or just hire offshore listeners/watchers. Ones who grok sarcasm. Fair use exemptions are an excuse under US laws. YMMV. Of course, if I have 10 friends, and they each have 10 friends, content is toast, best charge for live performances. I watched an industrial-sports event on TV, and it had warnings that any description thereof without the consent of the commisar of that "sport" was illegal. FThatS.

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Re: "Copying"...what does that mean?
by Major Variola (ret) 23 Nov '05

23 Nov '05

At 03:40 PM 11/21/05 -0500, Riad S. Wahby wrote: > >It's a violation of copyright to translate a book into a different >language and sell it as your own, even if the two languages are slightly >at odds with regard to, e.g., their colloquialisms (i.e., the >translation is "lossy" in some way). It's about the chain of >derivation, not the subjective experience. No, its about the subjective (semantic) experience. An MP3 is the "same", even if it is bitwise distinct. Using a patented algorithm is illegal (fnord), even if written in a distinct language, for a different instruction set, and even if derived independantly. (Contrast with interfaces, which if implemented in a clean-room situation, are not protectable.) All this under current US law, no endorsement implied. Now making semantically distinct near-copies (aka, parodies) are protected under the same rules, precisely because of the semantic distinction. Application to comp sci should be obvious. An interesting question is, say Bruce patented Blowfish, but you use e instead of pi to seed the tables. If he had patented the structure and not the details, this would be enforceable; a question remains as to how much you could vary the details of the process and get away with it. (Of course, a patented block cipher is about as useful as say IDEA, heh..)

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rolex watches for cheap
by Elsie Dolan 23 Nov '05

23 Nov '05

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by Charlene Madden 23 Nov '05

23 Nov '05

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