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CDR: RE:Your classified ad!---IMPORTANT!!
by Legit Work 18 Sep '00

18 Sep '00

I saw your ad in the business classifieds and i had to tell you that you could be getting paid for doing just that--placing ads!! Read on to find out how to get paid for something you are doing allready. THE AD PLACEMENT PROGRAM Work at Home Simply Placing our Classified Advertisements! No Catches! That's right! Simply place our Advertising & get Paid! Did you know that classified advertising is part of a: Six Billion Dollar Market We are sure that you will agree this is a big enough market to get YOUR piece out of it! Read on to tap into the Easiest & Most Profitable Business on the 'Net! You are about to discover how to acquire the most simple, easy and powerful money- making opportunity. It is called The Ad Placement Program and it's a dynamic income generating system that allows you to make profits providing a valuable service on or off of the Internet. Who are we? We are CJ Holdings, a direct response Marketing Company. We are hired by various companies both on and off of the Internet to design & implement Ad Campaigns for them. A very large part of any Ad Campaign is Classified Advertising. Open ANY Newspaper, Magazine, or Internet classified site and you will see the multitude of Ads placed. What if we could show YOU how to earn a good income from home by simply placing Ads for our clients? One week you may place Ads for FREE Software, Widgets or a Work-at- home opportunity, the next week it could be long distance services, satellite dishes or even a discounted vacation offer! You choose the Ads that you want to place and get paid PER REPLY to these ads! No one even has to buy ANYTHING from the Ad - just respond! Ad Placement provides a great service to our clients. By them not having to place Ads themselves, this allows them to concentrate on the sales end of their business. ALL responses to any advertising go directly to CJ Holdings. You NEVER have to handle ANY mail,correspondence, or otherwise. CJ Holdings maintains the "contracts" with these firms and then forwards the Ads to place for that given week. You simply place them. That's It! THIS IS NOT ENVELOPE STUFFING! You may have seen ads or websites offering to pay you for envelope stuffing. The ads generally are worded something like this: Work At Home paid $5 Per Envelope Stuffed! Homeworkers needed NOW due to expansion Supplies provided, envelopes are prestamped, etc. etc. - A typical 'Envelope Stuffing' advertisement What their Ad does not tell you is that you will be required to run the identical ad, request that they mail YOU $5 for information and the YOU have to mail them the sales letter recruiting them to do the same thing. There! You have just stuffed an envelope! This is NOT what Ad Placement is. Once signed up as an Ad Placer with us you simply place the classified advertisements on or off of the Internet! Your Choice! We provide you with the wording for the Ads that you conveniently 'copy' and 'paste' to the more than 100 FREE Ad Sites that we provide to you for NO CHARGE over the Internet. REMEMBER: You do NO SELLING OF THESE COMPANIES PRODUCTS. You never have to contact a customer, you receive NO Email from these companies or the leads that we provide them. In return, they receive, from us, qualified leads for their sales department. For this service that you and the many other professional Ad Placers provide, placing Ads, you are paid $1.00 US from EACH response to your Ads. Doesn't sound too exciting, does it? Some Ad Placers recieve an average of 150 replies to their Ads a week just on FREE sites alone! Some more and some less. In addition to this let's say that you also ran a print Ad campaign that same week and this averages you an additional 450 responses, that would yield you an income of $600.00 US a week! But wait, it does get better! If you can spend 2-4 hours a day running Ads you will see that this is the easiest money that you have ever made! You are provided with COMPLETE Training & Support! Why are we sharing this with you? Due to the growth and of Internet businesses alone always looking for new ways to generate leads, CJ Holdings is forced to expand. This, my fellow entrepreneur, is where YOU come in! As we do need more Professional Ad Placers as our business grows, we will also pay YOU an additional .50 cents for any replies from your group's Ads as well! This means that you are paid $1 per response from your own Ads PLUS .50 cents for any replies to Ads placed from those that you recruit to work from home for us! With the example of 150 replies from FREE Ads in a week & 450 replies from print Ads you have already earned $600.00, what if you also had 10 Ad Placers working under you doing the same? That will skyrocket your income to $3,600.00! That is in only 1 week! Let's say that you only have 5 Ad Placers that you have recruited. You still have a weekly income of: $1,200.00! That is $4,800.00 a month! Do not be fooled, this is NOT a get-rich-quick scheme. You will have to work, you will have to place Ads for our clients and if you choose to have your own Ad Placement Group then you will have to manage and support your group as well. Is it worth it? I think you will agree that it IS worth it! If you would like more info on this great money making opportunity, Simply reply to this message with "Ad placing" in the subject Thank you Tony Kloschinsky ======================================================================== == *note*you are not on any list,i saw your ad in the free classifieds and wanted to let you in on something big-thats all,Thank You

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Re: Identity theft (PGN, RISKS-21.04)
by Carl Ellison 18 Sep '00

18 Sep '00

I used to try to keep my SSN private -- then I realized that that's blaming the victim (me). It's not the SSN holder's fault that stores and other institutions use improper means for authenticating people. It's the store's fault. Any information held by a credit bureau is public. So is any information held by any government agency, if I'm to believe the spam I get occasionally. So, that information is not acceptable for authentication -- even in person, but especially online. It's not merely unacceptable when dealing with the credit bureau. The credit bureau poisons the information for everyone. Now -- how do we get consumer protection laws that make it clear that a consumer is not liable for any debts incurred by someone claiming to be him/her unless there is irrefutable authentication during registration (e.g., videotape of the consumer signing up for the service). This means killing all issuing of credit online, by mail, by phone, etc. Maybe I'd stop getting all those credit-card applications in the mail.... [This opens a technical challenge: how can we authenticate anyone, if we rule out information that an attacker can get?] - Carl --- All inventions or works of authorship original to me, herein and past, are placed irrevocably in the public domain, and may be used or modified for any purpose, without permission, attribution, or notification.

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Re: Identity theft (PGN, RISKS-21.04)
by Carl Ellison 18 Sep '00

18 Sep '00

I used to try to keep my SSN private -- then I realized that that's blaming the victim (me). It's not the SSN holder's fault that stores and other institutions use improper means for authenticating people. It's the store's fault. Any information held by a credit bureau is public. So is any information held by any government agency, if I'm to believe the spam I get occasionally. So, that information is not acceptable for authentication -- even in person, but especially online. It's not merely unacceptable when dealing with the credit bureau. The credit bureau poisons the information for everyone. Now -- how do we get consumer protection laws that make it clear that a consumer is not liable for any debts incurred by someone claiming to be him/her unless there is irrefutable authentication during registration (e.g., videotape of the consumer signing up for the service). This means killing all issuing of credit online, by mail, by phone, etc. Maybe I'd stop getting all those credit-card applications in the mail.... [This opens a technical challenge: how can we authenticate anyone, if we rule out information that an attacker can get?] - Carl --- All inventions or works of authorship original to me, herein and past, are placed irrevocably in the public domain, and may be used or modified for any purpose, without permission, attribution, or notification.

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CDR: DISNEY DAYTONA Adventure Getaway
by 5travel＠ebay.com 18 Sep '00

18 Sep '00

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CDR: That waterfall may have been 3000ft...
by Jim Choate 18 Sep '00

18 Sep '00

http://www.andalucia.com/water_sports/dolphins.htm -- ____________________________________________________________________ He is able who thinks he is able. Buddha The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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CDR: jerry boutelle and real brains
by billp＠nmol.com 17 Sep '00

17 Sep '00

cypherpunks I was thinking about you when I put this on the net /http://www.nmol.com/users/billp/purpose.htm#Newton Boutelle never got a college degree. I've known lot of phds, including garett birkhoff and don knuth. And ray duncan too. An md not phd. Boutelle was a LOT SMARTER, in my opinion, than all of the above. Boutelle left us a legacy of genius with the Nautilus 2 metacompiler. Boutelle is dead. I missed his wake at Half Moon Bay because of this mess. http://members.tripod.com/bill_3_2/ I'm getting a bit upset. Allahu ahkbar http://www.jya.com/nsasuit.txt http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Congress/8327/buehlerpayne.html

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CDR: gpg for palmOS ?
by rguerra＠yahoo.com 17 Sep '00

17 Sep '00

I would like to know if anyone is working on a port of GPG for the PalmOS ? I have tried the 2 pgp ports for the palm, however they are not stable -- "...as we transfer our whole being to the data bank, privacy will become a ghost or echo of its former self and what remains of community will disappear"...Marshal McLuhan -- Robert Guerra <rguerra(a)yahoo.com>, Fax: +1(303) 484-0302 WWW Page <http://pgp.greatvideo.com>, ICQ # 10266626 PGPKeys <http://pgp.greatvideo.com/keys/rguerra/>

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ANNOUNCE: OpenSSL 0.9.6 Beta 2
by Richard Levitte 17 Sep '00

17 Sep '00

OpenSSL version 0.9.6 Beta 2 ============================ OpenSSL - The Open Source toolkit for SSL/TLS http://www.openssl.org/ OpenSSL is currently in a release cycle. The second beta is now released. This beta is in fact two releases, one for the current mainstream OpenSSL, and one with an "engine" branch incorporated. The "engine" branch contains an interface to external crypto libraries, which is currently used to support the hardware devices CryptoSwift (by CryptoSwift Inc), Atalla (by Compaq) and CHIL (previously called HWCryptoHook, by nCipher) as well as the internal OpenSSL routines. The two beta releases are available for download via HTTP and FTP from the following master locations (the various FTP mirrors you can find under http://www.openssl.org/source/mirror.html) o http://www.openssl.org/source/ o ftp://ftp.openssl.org/source/ The file names of the two betas are: o openssl-0.9.6-beta2.tar.gz o openssl-engine-0.9.6-beta2.tar.gz Please download and test them as soon as possible. This new OpenSSL version incorporates 84 changes and bugfixes to the toolkit (for a complete list see http://www.openssl.org/source/exp/CHANGES) Changes that have been made since last beta are a lot in the documentation, in Win32-specific code and in VMS-specific code, and there has also been small changes that may affect everyone (for the better). Tests on Win32 and VMS need to be made very soon. Tests on other platforms should be made very soon as well, to verify that we haven't messed up since last beta. Also, new (non-default) targets for HP-UX have been added. Since they are non-default, they won't get chosen implicitely, so they are non-critical in nature, but it would be nice if they got tested as well, for future reference. Reports and patches should be sent to openssl-bugs(a)openssl.org. Discussions around the development of OpenSSL should be sent to openssl-dev(a)openssl.org. Anything else should go to openssl-users(a)openssl.org. Yours, The OpenSSL Project Team... Mark J. Cox Richard Levitte Andy Polyakov Ralf S. Engelschall Bodo Möller Holger Reif Dr. Stephen Henson Ulf Möller Geoff Thorpe Ben Laurie -- Richard Levitte levitte(a)openssl.org OpenSSL Project http://www.openssl.org/~levitte/ Software Engineer, Celo Communications: http://www.celocom.com/

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CDR: RE: RSA Patent Expiration Composite Party - Sept. 21
by Bill Stewart 17 Sep '00

17 Sep '00

At 03:01 PM 9/15/00 -0400, Fisher Mark wrote: >> The fact that _all_ of the so-called music entertainers at the SF >> event are "trancers" is...symptomatic...of something. > >It's symptomatic of the age gap on the list -- you, me, RAH (now there's a >combination) and others are *way* beyond the 20-something party crowd. Even >if I lived in the area, there'd be lots of stuff I'd rather do than go to >the party. I hope they have lots of (age-appropriate) fun, though. A new >(minor) era dawning and all that... Oh, come on - back when we were that age, instead of old geezers, we did our share of staying up late at night dancing and consuming various mind-altering substances*. These kids are staying up a bit later, and some of their drugs hadn't been invented in our day, and their music is no worse than some of the garage rock bands... And while they're not walking 20 miles through the snow to school like we did, it's San Francisco, so they're still walking 20 blocks uphill both ways to the nearest parking space. [* Mostly ethanol and caffeine. I was fortunate enough to be in the drink-age-18 days, but they hadn't invented decent mass-market coffee yet...] Thanks! Bill Bill Stewart, bill.stewart(a)pobox.com PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF 3C85 B884 0ABE 4639

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CDR: Re: is there any way ?
by David Marshall 17 Sep '00

17 Sep '00

"Dark Horse" <saynaaa(a)hotmail.com> writes: > hello :) > > well I thought I will have no answer as I had no answer writing to some > cracker's email They've developed language skills? Man, I should have gone into food research. I don't think I could handle the bread products communicating with me, though. > > but NOW I know there is one to answer me :) > now I can ask my question clearer .. I was just wondering are there any > special cracker in internet I don't know how special they are, but you can find some at http://www.ritzbits.com. > that I can write to them and ask them to crack a website for me ... Actually, Nabisco doesn't crack websites. They just make crackers and other food products. You might be more interested in some Ginko Biloba...or a lobotomy; those might help you. If not, ask your doctor about Ativan. > for > example : www.sanjesh.org ?? I'm not planning to go to Tehran, Iran any time soon. However, any hardware store would be glad to sell you a sledge hammer which you may use to crack it once you get there. For the transportation, you might want to try http://www.priceline.com. I hear that you can name your own price for airline tickets, gasoline, hotel rooms, and groceries there now. > or find me an email password like : atasharif(a)yahoo.com .. That looks more like an email address to me, but I confess that I don't quite know what those two trailing periods are for. > I will be so glad to have your answer as soon as the one before ;) > > make a splash ! You too can make a splash. Just send $29.95 to Cypherpunks, Inc. for your very own, easy to use cement. Just eat, drink a few glasses of water, and you too will be able to make your own splash the very next time you go to the bathroom. (Most common side effects included intestinal perforation, intestinal obstruction, rectal hemorrage, vomiting, and dehydration. Talk to your doctor before beginning to use Cypherpunks, Inc. Cement Shitbrick Mix.)

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