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by Nasser Mahmoudi 27 Sep '00

27 Sep '00

HELLO I AM GLAD OF YUR SEXY SITE. THNKS . NASSER.

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CDR: Re: Lions and Tigers and Backdoors, oh, my...
by Matt Curtin 27 Sep '00

27 Sep '00

>>>>> "Steve" == Steve Furlong <sfurlong(a)acmenet.net> writes: Steve> The only thing that might be the "help" field is "X-UIDL", Steve> which has a value of random-seeming characters. UIDL is Unique ID Listing, described in section 7 of RFC 1725, "Post Office Protocol - Version 3". Steve> I, too, am skeptical about the help field claim. I'd be very Steve> interested in details. \begin{aol} MEEEE TOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!! \end{aol} -- Matt Curtin cmcurtin(a)interhack.net http://www.interhack.net/people/cmcurtin/

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CDR: intox
by A. Melon 27 Sep '00

27 Sep '00

>You know, I hope it passes. No, I havent taken leave of my senses. >Ive just had it up to here with gradualism. Im really reaching the >point of morbid curiosity to see exactly what the sheeple will tolerate. > >The United States is sick. Intoxicated on its own power, it has a >serious case of the the bed spins. Sometimes when you are that drunk >the quickest way to solve the problem is to stick your fingers down >your throat and heave. Alas, the only way the US will face its military addiction is when some soldiers are dragged in their underwear. Taking out infrastructure will just strengthen the monster at home and abroad. Not that you can blame them. -Asymmetrix

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CDR: ip: The secret files of Ron Brown by Charles Smith
by R. A. Hettinga 27 Sep '00

27 Sep '00

--- begin forwarded text

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CDR: Re: police IR searches to Supremes
by David Honig 27 Sep '00

27 Sep '00

At 06:52 AM 9/27/00 -0400, Sampo A Syreeni wrote: >Well, I think that as long as a conventional photograph is taken from a >public place, it does not constitute a punishable breach of privacy. What's >so very different about doing the same thing with IR? So if you use a different wavelength you can image people through walls. That should be useful for determining who is committing illegal sexual acts under cover of optically opaque walls. Its just a different wavelength, after all.

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CDR: Fw: Bill Clinton convicted of war crimes
by Marcel Popescu 27 Sep '00

27 Sep '00

> From: "Dave Kuehne" <dkuehne(a)erols.com> > To: "Dave" <dkuehne(a)erols.com> > Subject: Bill Clinton convicted of war crimes > Date: Sunday, September 24, 2000 1:27 AM > > Source: > Virtual New York > http://www.vny.com/ > > Belgrade gives Clinton, others 20 years in jail > http://www.vny.com/cf/News/upidetail.cfm?QID=120278 > > Thursday, 21 September 2000 13:19 (ET) > > By STEFAN RACIN BELGRADE, Yugoslavia, Sept. 21 (UPI) -- The district court > in Belgrade Thursday sentenced President Clinton, Secretary of State > Madeleine Albright and 13 other top Western and NATO leaders to a maximum > 20 years in prison for the use of weapons prohibited under international > law and crimes against the civilian population during last year's NATO air > campaign against Yugoslavia. > > Veroljub Raketic, the presiding judge, said the arrest warrants would be > issued for the convicted leaders and their sentences would start as soon as > they are arrested. > > During the four-day trial in the biggest courtroom in the Palace of > Justice, in which 14 seats labeled with the names of the accused were left > vacant, the officially appointed lawyer defending Clinton told the court he > could cite as an extenuating circumstances that Clinton came from "an > incomplete family and lived with a step-father which probably left a mark > on his overall behavior." > > Another court-appointed lawyer defending Albright asked the court to take > into account her repressed psychological state as a woman subordinated to > the U.S. president and the fact that she had never before been sentenced > for war crimes. > > Apart from Clinton and Albright the convicted included Defense Secretary > William Cohen; British Prime Minister Tony Blair and Foreign Secretary > Robin Cook; French President Jacques Chirac, Foreign Minister Hubert > Vedrine and Defense Minister Alain Richard; German Chancellor Gerhard > Schroeder, Foreign Minister Joschka Fisher and Defense Minister Rudolf > Scharping; the former and present NATO Secretaries General Javier Solana > and Lord George Robertson; and the former NATO Supreme Commander in Europe, > Gen. Wesley Clark. > > They were ordered to pay legal costs within 15 days of the sentences taking > effect under pain of enforcement. > > The indictments said that the accused were responsible for NATO forces > using 31,000 shells each with 300 grams of depleted uranium at eight > locations in Serbia and Montenegro and that 10 tons of this kind of > ammunition were dropped on Kosovo. This specifically polluted the > environments of villages in the vicinity of Vranje, Bujanovac and Presevo > in southern Serbia causing various types of cancer and death, according to > the indictments, the court said. > > NATO also dropped a huge quantity of cluster bombs in the areas of Nis, > Sombor, Kurumlija, Podujevo, Kraljevo, Novi Sad, Mount Kopaonik and other > places, killing 34 people including an 8-month pregnant woman and leaving > many other people seriously or slightly injured, the indictment said. > > -- Copyright 2000 by United Press International. > All rights reserved.

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CDR: Not-Quite-Zero-Knowledge..
by R. A. Hettinga 27 Sep '00

27 Sep '00

Probably not-quite-Community-Connection, either... <http://www.myprivateplanet.com/> I saw it on http://www.kuro5hin.org this morning. Cheers, RAH -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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CDR: More from RISKS
by Marcel Popescu 27 Sep '00

27 Sep '00

A private solution to the problem that one Carl wanted more laws to solve:

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CDR: Re: police IR searches to Supremes
by David Honig 27 Sep '00

27 Sep '00

At 06:52 AM 9/27/00 -0400, Sampo A Syreeni wrote: >Well, I think that as long as a conventional photograph is taken from a >public place, it does not constitute a punishable breach of privacy. What's >so very different about doing the same thing with IR? Heh, maybe someone should take some IR (video with IR filter removed) pictures of Janet Reno, and publish. (Then again, maybe not.)

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CDR: Re: Lions and Tigers and Backdoors, oh, my...
by Wilfred L. Guerin 27 Sep '00

27 Sep '00

[If this is a duplicate, I appologise, ssz didnt accept first attempt ] -=|[ Relevance: Backdoor Systems, Spook penetration Tools, etc... ]|=- I believe it would be good to throw in some additional toys for analysis: Recently (many months ago) we came across a version of the TSAdBot system, produced by Conducent ( http://www.conducent.com ), which very easily utilized its given backdoors in various windows {95,98,98b,NT5/2000,etc} installations, heedless of any 3rd party security or protection system. In short, we watched this little deamon run streight through the first tier of Win 'security' and then begin iterative/enumerative analysis of registry entries at system level to conjure up a coherent (probibly bitmapped and cyphered) representation of the os and installed components, then to be sent off to a central server, which responeded back with the algo for the next level of penetration. Truthfully, with publicly available tools, you can watch the TsAdBot system and its multi-purpose components rip streight through your system, 'compromise' all personal and internal data in your registry, and then proceed to interact with its central control server for next-phase penetration instructions. Upon completion of this first task, the infiltration system is housed nicely amongst core system dll and other files, has numerous tautologic registry routes to ensure its stability and operation, and is among the first systems to be loaded by the os upon next boot... What it does while running? How should we know, it merely does ADVERTISING, right? ;) One version we analysed used a variety of old methods of simple ghosting and self-protection mechanisms, including a killable daemon which told the higher level system (which, after 3rd pass of infiltration, your user-level tools are no longer able to see within the win system components it has compromised) of its demise, thus allowing the higher-functioning code -- running invisbly in most of your systems at this moment -- to maintain its spooky existance. Various tactful methods are used by the system to be self-supporting; TsAdBot easily penetrates low-level system bounds (admin level/passwds/etc) and starts acting at the system level upon the commencement of its operation, but also uses a variety of hidden features (cloning, self-checking, and self-protecting mechanisms) to ensure its stability, but moreso used an interesting mechanism of registry re-routing that allowed the penetration code to be nestled within any number of system components, yet not visible due to cyphered and other round-about routes of accessing and activating itself upon reboot. In short, within a few flops, this system penetrates windows security and lodges at least one copy of itself in 'untouchable' space, contacts external servers for second phase penetration instructions, and moreso, disguises itself as a simple ADVERTISING CLIENT in most major software pacakges. We recall what happened to Aureate systems when they were disclosed, however, Conducent seems to have some additional support structures... How else would they know the intentional m$ provided backdoors, and moreso been able to easily introduce the package into 90% of business workstations and personal computers without the assistance of some overbearing entity? Now, I state here basic overview, possibly 'speculation' and nothing more. You are expected to review the various versions of this advanced Conducent system and its reality. Note: The version I worked with primarily was recovered a few months ago, and no formal report has been made regarding its mechanisms. Do note, especially, their press releases... such things as stating that the method and strange communication are harmless to the user, and other such bullshit which is most obviously frivilous sheep-talk. http://www.conducent.com/aboutus-presskit.shtm most of the articles I recall are still on their website. I would quote directly, but this is already a heavy message. Of other notes, Vmware and bochs/etc have imaging of fake drives, How about someone using their brain and runing some simulations on various versions? Simple code reversing is not that complex either. I personally won't go there at this second, but would be happy to inform anyone interested in the pursuit... Its not hard to map out and reverse a process... This is a fairly well coded operation and system, and it serves its purpose to penetrate your computer security quite well, however, there is nothing we cant fix, and this, dear friends, is something the non-affiliated public should very quickly act upon. Note: I have not analysed the current TsAdBot systems nor any other from this source recently, as their internal structure, mechanisms, or versions may have changed, but, I definitely still have on record a variety of the old versions for analysis... Its merely an advertising client, isnt it?... Regardless, the listing of software which uses the system is quite easily accessable on their site, including demo packages and whatnot for review. I strongly suggest, if you value the integrity of your winx systems, that you not run any programs on it until you have reviewed the realities. You probibly already have, though... I leave it at that. Open for 'speculation' and 'review'... however I expect 'review' to be quite a prominant element in the near future. Good day, dear friend sheeps :) -Wilfred L. Guerin Wilfred(a)Cryogen.com [SideNote: Originally, the code looked like something the FBfeds would come up with, but after more recent review, I truthfully cant speculate on the origin, its merely code, but talking to centralized servers and being so obvious is now a common trait of most of the organizations...] At 05:18 PM 9/26/2000 -0400, you wrote: >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > >Lions and Tigers and Backdoors, Oh, My. > >Frankly, I expect that NSA would be remiss in their grope-age indeed if >they *didn't* try to get a backdoor into anything it could, and, of > >I mean, can't they be a little more *creative*, fer chrissakes? How >stupid do they think the public really is? > >Oh. Right. I forgot... > >Cheers, >RAH > >-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> > >iQEVAwUBOdESj8UCGwxmWcHhAQHSDQgAlA1/+asZTagnQ4vL44WJ9If+fTVwkPCC >----------------- >R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com>

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