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CDR: Re: Re: Gort in granny-shades (was Re: Al Gore goes cypherpunk?)
by Roy Silvernail 28 Oct '00

28 Oct '00

From: Tim May <tcmay(a)got.net> >No accounting for taste, of course, but I _loved_ "The Matrix." So did I. >Overall, it's up there in my Top 5 of SF films, with "2001," >"Terminator 2," and "Blade Runner." Not necessarily in that order. Our tastes seem curiously close. What's number 5 on your list? >Ihre Meilenzahl variiert vielleicht. Die meisten Meile Zahlen verändern sich. (blame babelfish!) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com

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CDR: envelope stuffing
by cameron garth 28 Oct '00

28 Oct '00

To whom it may concern We would like some more information on your subject, as it makes no sence to us as we thought that when you do envelope stuffing you supply all product and knowledge.

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CDR: Fw: CIA in Oregon, Intelink
by jim bell 28 Oct '00

28 Oct '00

> > Would anyone in the Oregon area know about > > a CIA organization acronymed ISTAC? > > > > Here's the NIC entry, which includes a CIA rep > > in Bend, OR. Note that the other CIA rep used > > only a last name initial. > > > > Designated Agency Rep, Requester, Sr. Registration > Official: > > Mueller, Deforest X. (DXM2) > > (541) 385-6836 > > MUELLER(a)BENDNET.COM > > Record last updated on 13-Apr-99. > > Mueller, Deforest X. (DXM2) > > cia > > 63350 majestic loop > > bend, OR 97701 > > (541) 385-6836 > > MUELLER(a)BENDNET.COM > > Here is a list of all driver's licenses in Oregon in 1996 that contain > "DEFOREST". Notice the last entry: > > "MC CAULEY, DALE DEFOREST","3314 SE > TAYLOR","","PORTLAND","OR",26,97214,15,12,24,"M",600,180,"A","0199503" > "MC FARLAND, DAVID DEFOREST","36003 E CROWN PT > HWY","","CORBETT","OR",26,97019,42,3,21,"M",510,230,"","0738491" > "MCFARLAND, DANIEL DEFOREST","36003 E CROWN POINT > HWY","","CORBETT","OR",26,97019,75,12,18,"M",511,150,"A","5323237" > "MILBURN, DONALD DEFOREST","653 SMITH ROCK > WAY","","TERREBONNE","OR",9,97760,59,6,19,"M",601,190,"","2256445" > "MUELLER, SCOTT DEFOREST","1823 GARNET PL WA","PO BOX > 486","CHELAN","WA",60,98816,50,7,10,"M",600,174,"","2005706" > > Here is a car for "Scott Deforest Mueller", registered in Oregon but with > the Chelan, Washington, address. > ---------- s.txt > "SAL903","1","CHEV","SV2","VA","1GBEG25H5G7185373","9535286527",86,1,97,9,16 > ,"MUELLER, SCOTT DEFOREST",50,7,10,2005706,"MUELLER, KIM > MARIE",59,11,8,3772314,"1823 GARNET PL WA","PO BOX > 486","CHELAN","WA",98816,60,"",1,95,12,18,0,0,"","","","","","","",0 Notice the DOB's: 7/10/1959 for Scott Mueller, 11/8/1959 for Kim Mueller > > And here is the data from 1997 license plates. > SAL903 1CHEV VA1GBEG25H5G7185373 9535286527861990916MUELLER, SCOTT > DEFOREST MUELLER, KIM MARIE 20830 DIONE WAY > BENDPO BOX 486 CHELAN WA9881660 > > I'll look up the information for "Kim Marie Mueller" later on today. > Jim Bell Sorry about the extra delay. Very interesting results for year 2000. Looks like the Muellers got a new Chevy, from SAL903 to the current VCV976 "VCV976","1","CHEV","SV2","VA","1GBEG25K3SF156657","9830708131",1995,1,2000, 8,11,"MUELLER, DEFOREST SCOTT",0,0,0,9638546,"",0,0,0,0,"20830 DIONE WAY","","BEND","OR",97701,9,"",2,1999,2,11,0,0,"","BANK OF THE CASCADES","","2542 N HIGHWAY 97 RDMD","PO BOX 1236","REDMOND","OR",97756,0 Here's an interesting addition. I ran a year 2000 license plate search for all Oregon plates registered to 20830 Dione Way, Bend OR, and this popped up as well. "WSN592","1","TOYT","RUN","UT","JT3HN86R3X0197687","9829222474",1999,1,2000, 10,13,"ASHE, JOHN R",1953,4,2,6699949,"ASHE, ANNA E",1960,1,14,6699973,"20830 DIONE WAY","","BEND","OR",97701,9,"",1,1999,2,10,0,0,"","","","","","","",0,0 Interestingly enough, GO.COM lists a John Ashe at 8 Todd Ln, Bend, OR, 97707, phone number 541-593-2784 More later Jim Bell

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CDR: Clinton signs executive order on workers & new economy
by Declan McCullagh 28 Oct '00

28 Oct '00

THE WHITE HOUSE Office of the Press Secretary _______________________________________________________________________ For Immediate Release October 27, 2000 STATEMENT BY THE PRESIDENT Today, I am pleased to sign an Executive Order creating a Commission on Workers, Communities, and Economic Change in the New Economy. I would like to thank Representative Ken Bentsen for his leadership in helping workers and communities adapt to the new economy and for working with my Administration to form this Commission. International trade, technology, globalization, and the changing nature of work present extraordinary new opportunities for Americans, but can also create real disruptions for American workers and communities. Vice President Gore and I have worked hard to empower workers and communities to take advantage of the many opportunities in this new economy, but there is still more we can do. This Commission will undertake a careful examination of the effectiveness of existing federal programs to help workers and communities adjust to economic change, and will identify the best practices of employers, communities, and public-private partnerships that have responded successfully to economic dislocations. The commission?s report, due next year, will help communities, employers, and workers respond to and benefit from these changes in our economy. 30-30-30

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CDR: Dealing with Spam from Esther Dyson
by Tim May 28 Oct '00

28 Oct '00

So, Esther Dyson, whom I have never corresponded with, is spamming me with this crap. Any suggestions from Cypherpunks on how to deal with this nuisance? I'm not sure she needs killing, despite her criminal acts with ICANN, but other suggestions are welcome. --Tim May At 10:55 AM -0400 10/27/00, Esther Dyson wrote: >Dear Tim May, > >Intellectual Property on the Net (12/94), the implications of the >Web on privacy in Labels and Disclosure, Part II: Privacy (2/97), >The Open-Source Revolution (11/98), broadband open access in The >Architecture of Internet 2.0 (2-99), new content models in The Web >Goes into Syndication (7-8/99), peer-to-peer networking in Data >Soup: The Client is the Server (4/00). If you were reading Release >1.0, you would have read about these topics early. > >That's the mission of Release 1.0, the monthly newsletter I produce >with editor Kevin Werbach. We take pleasure not just in filtering >the huge amount of news, announcements and products and services >that this market produces, but in figuring out what emerging trends >mean for you before your competitors do. > >Subscribe online today at ><http://www.release1-0.com>www.Release1-0.com and join the other >industry leaders who stay ahead of the curve with an annual >subscription to Release 1.0. For only $795 you will get: > >* 11 monthly issues, >* a Release 1.0 binder in which to file them, >* the PC Forum 2000 transcript (a $300 value), and >* a FREE special-edition Release 1.0 baseball cap. > >Kevin and I fill Release 1.0 with insights on the latest >technologies and the companies that are forging our future. For 15 >years, we've consistently nailed the big ideas and big trends before >they've become the vogue. Isn't it time you joined such industry >leaders as John Doerr, Mary Meeker, Ray Ozzie, Marc Andreessen, >Michael Dell, Jim Barksdale, Ann Winblad, Martin Nisenholtz, Eric >Schmidt and Bill Joy as a Release 1.0 subscriber? > >Visit <http://www.release1-0.com>www.Release1-0.com now and complete >the online subscription form. Be sure to use 900ER1 as your personal >marketing code to get this great offer. > >**Sign up before November 15 and get your PC Forum 2001 invitation >with your November issue.** > >At Release 1.0, we will continue to lead the conversation and to >keep it lively. I hope you ll join us. What we write about now will >start to matter sooner than you think! > >Sincerely yours, > >Esther Dyson >Editor-in-Chief, Release 1.0 > >P.S. If you would prefer not to receive any further information >about EDventure's activities, please let Joanna >(<mailto:joanna@edventure.com>joanna(a)edventure.com) in my office >know and we will be sure to remove you from our list. -- ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 831-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, "Cyphernomicon" | black markets, collapse of governments.

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CDR: Dealing with Spam from Esther Dyson
by Tim May 28 Oct '00

28 Oct '00

By the way, a few minutes with Google turned up other instances of Esther Dyson's spamming. Here's just one such URL, along with the opening paragraphs: http://channel.nytimes.com/1998/03/28/technology/28dyson.html March 28, 1998 I Got Spammed by Esther Dyson: Release, the Old-Fashioned Way By LISA NAPOLI ecently, I got a note from the publisher of Release 1.0, the venerable newsletter put out by the venerable (and mythic) godmother of all things digital, Esther Dyson. It wasn't a casual e-mail. It wasn't a letter asking me to write for the newsletter. It wasn't even a personal note asking me to have lunch, or attend her annual conference (which took place this week in Tucson, where, for the first time, non-Release subscribers were permitted to attend.) The note was plain old-fashioned snail mail spam, asking me to fork over nearly 700 bucks for a subscription. Dear Lisa, Esther Dyson and Jerry Michalski believe that someone who's achieved your stature in our industry should be part of the Release 1.0 family. That's why they've suggested I write this letter to you. Stature? How did they measure that? Did Jerry Michalski remember sitting at the same table with me at a conference luncheon once? Did Esther ever read my now deceased column, Hyperwocky? Did some computer notice my name on all those mailing lists?

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CDR: Oh Gawd, Tim May...
by George＠Orwellian.Org 27 Oct '00

27 Oct '00

Tim May just spammed the list with a message from Esther Dyson, as if asking for help. Tim May needs killing.

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CDR: Insurance: My Last Post
by Nathan Saper 27 Oct '00

27 Oct '00

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Here is my last post in this thread, because I feel that it is going nowhere: My views are irreconcilable with those of the libertarians on this list. Here's the way I view the world: 1) Life has no inherent value. Our being here is random, and there is no purpose to our lives. 2) "Human progress" is bullshit. We are no further along as a species now than we were in Plato's time. Basically, we're going nowhere fast. 3) People have no essential "rights." Rights don't exist. This is a theme often found in the work of many modern philosophers, such as Foucault. 5) Taking all three premises above, the only way I can find to evaluate what is right and what is wrong is "do what causes the least pain." I guess this is basically pragmatism. For example, if raising taxes to 95% would feed everyone in the world (I'm just speaking hypothetically), then I would advocate this, because this would lead to less pain in the world. (And I don't consider some people having to sell their Ferraris "pain." ;-) Someone here said that each time taxes are raised, we lose freedom. So what? First of all, what is "freedom"? Second of all, what is so great about it that it should be evaluated before everything else? So I guess when people say "but by making the insurance companies pay for the medical care, you are stealing from them," my answer is "So what?" I understand that this way of viewing the world is not shared by many on this list, so it seems that it would be damn near impossible for us to reach agreement. - -- Nathan Saper (natedog(a)well.com) | http://www.well.com/user/natedog/ GnuPG (ElGamal/DSA): 0x9AD0F382 | PGP 2.x (RSA): 0x386C4B91 Standard PGP & PGP/MIME OK | AOL Instant Messenger: linuxfu -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE59oRA2FWyBZrQ84IRAlgUAJ9y2Tjn0jqwpSyxZD7wQW+UGQi5dQCfczrz 5fXnbFxhPFVfaFbiPu2/KNQ= =ijeO -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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CDR: more wild things
by billp＠nmol.com 27 Oct '00

27 Oct '00

http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/Congress/8327/load1.html

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CDR: Enjoy the ride!!!!!!!
by info0809＠myered.com 27 Oct '00

27 Oct '00

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