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CDR: UK Crypto - old submission address to cease working
by Robert Guerra 28 Oct '00

28 Oct '00

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CDR: Hard Shelled ISP?
by Ray Dillinger 28 Oct '00

28 Oct '00

Would there be a market for someone to create an encrypted-services provider? Would people do this? Here is what I envision, at a cost of something like $10/month. Email accounts that bounce anything not encrypted - either silently or with a message that says "this account accepts only encrypted mail." at the option of the account holder. These accounts are restricted in some way that makes them unattractive to spammers - probably they are able to send no more than 3 or 4 unencrypted emails a day, maybe they are unable to send *any* unencrypted email. Web Hosting strictly via HTTPS. Standard accounts get four or eight kilobytes accessible by http (enough for a redirect), and 100 Megabytes or so of web space accessible by HTTPS. Anonymous accounts. You send a message with a long random key and a few dozen choices for your login name, and a password to use (send via a remailer or whatever) and the provider publishes a webpage with listings mapping keys to login names to tell you what login name you've gotten. The provider holds the name for a couple of weeks. If during that time the provider recieves payment for an account by that name with a that password (say, by cash or bullion via mail or courier, or any of various ecash systems) then the provider creates an account with login, that balance and that password. The provider also publishes a page of login names in use, so you can check to try to avoid collisions. To renew your account, your payment must be sent with your login name and the original payment key. If it can be done legally, the service provider would get a debit card for each account paid more than $200 in advance, and give the card number to the account holder. Then, whatever amount had been prepaid would be available for web purchases, etc. for web merchants with POS stuff. This is a sticking point, and could cause a lot of trouble if any missteps are made. In the worst case, 30% of this money would have to be paid to the IRS - to avoid charges of abetting tax evasion while maintaining client anonymity. (technically, this ought to make the money paid for the service tax deductible, but you could only claim it by revealing your True Name along with proof that you'd paid it -- so clients interested in real anonymity would have to bite the bullet and pay taxes on that money twice). Nice anonymizing web proxy with whatever filters you like, returning whatever CGI information you want it to return. Cookie functioning is selectable by host (so you can, eg, deal with your bank via the proxy if you want). Web proxy is available only via https -- ie, the link between the proxy and the user is *required* to be encrypted. Anonymous encrypted FTP. Two kinds -- one is FTP over SSL, the other is FTP where the file being downloaded is encrypted to start with. There are applications for both. Paying clients could put up a download directory; joe random could download stuff from it. No unencrypted FTP would be available. NNTP over SSL. Not that what's in usenet news is secret, but there's no point in having your reading habits monitored. The basic idea is, there's no point in having *any* unencrypted traffic on a server if you can help it. It ought to be the case that even if a 'carnivore' is installed, there is no unencrypted traffic for it to sniff. I think this is, just barely, feasible. What say you all? Bear

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CDR: Internet Home Work and Own Busines, Free and Low Cost Advertising Tools! for You - cypherpunks -OEKB
by zog＠IULX.esn.net 28 Oct '00

28 Oct '00

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28 Oct '00

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CDR: RE: Parties
by Carskadden, Rush 28 Oct '00

28 Oct '00

Eric, Yeah, there is the Libertarian party, and they get a lot of electoral votes. In fact, I think that our next president will be Harry Browne. Our work is done. Let's go get a drink. Seriously, what we are discussing here is the feasibility of establishing a credible power base for a third party. I don't think (and maybe you disagree with me here) that the Libertarian party has achieved this at all. I don't think that the current Libertarian party CAN establish this kind of voter confidence. The current presidential candidate for the Libertarian party, Harry Browne, has done little to gain voter enthusiasm with such bold and impractical claims as the statement that his first action in office would be granting executive pardon to drug offenders. I am familiar with the Libertarian party, to the extent that I was a member for the past several years, and have attended several state and national Libertarian party conventions, and spoken with Congress-people as a representative of Libertarian interests. The fact of the matter is, in a discussion of strong representation of issues within a viable Washington D.C. power movement, you can only be bringing up the Libertarian party as either an example of failure in the third party strategy or a recommendation for a third party to endorse. As for the possible assertion that the Libertarian party is an example of a failure to succeed at activism outside of the two-party arena, I think that any failure (perceived or real) may in fact be due to the outrageous demands of the LP (as an activist, I have been embarrassed by them many times), and the complete stubborn demand for overnight change without compromise. These facets of the party may be sexy to guys like you and I, but don't engender the public, or establish a foothold in Washington. As to the possible recommendation of the Libertarian party as a viable alternative to the two party system, I just don't see how that answers my question. Sure, the Libertarian party seems to be fairly interested in privacy and personal freedom. That still doesn't tell me whether you think it would be easier to get the Libertarian party enough power to actually protect our interests, or convince existing partisan powers to take up the cause. In short, thanks for the info, but you've answered nothing. ok, Rush Carskadden -----Original Message----- From: Eric Murray [mailto:ericm@lne.com] Sent: Friday, October 27, 2000 12:11 PM To: Carskadden, Rush Cc: 'cypherpunks(a)algebra.com' Subject: Re: Parties On Fri, Oct 27, 2000 at 11:09:40AM -0500, Carskadden, Rush wrote: > Scott and I have been discussing (from a theoretical standpoint) the > possibility of a third party that focuses on privacy and personal freedom, There already is one. It's called the Libertarian party. www.lp.org. -- Eric Murray Consulting Security Architect SecureDesign LLC http://www.securedesignllc.com PGP keyid:E03F65E5

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CDR: Re: Ho to KICK OUT Junkbusters users
by Anonymous 28 Oct '00

28 Oct '00

Igor Chudov wrote: > yep, numerous times. the funny thing is that the "AI" program that is > georgewbush has no state at all, it just replies to the user's last > phrase according to the rules. But I tried to make sure that georgewbush > is well prepared politically. > My experience with splotchy and georgewbush illustrates ridiculousness > of most human conversations. ...snip... What kinds of logs do you keep of interactions with Splotchy/GWB? Are users made aware of any such logs? (Not that I particularly care about the privacy of users who want to have "sibersex" with "marred" people.) I also wonder how many times Eliza has been rewritten into Sheila the Sex Kitten, and to what degree of success.

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Administrivia: old submission address to cease working
by Stephen Early 28 Oct '00

28 Oct '00

Oxford University Computing Service have notified me that they intend to cease forwarding mail sent to the old UKcrypto submission address, ukcrypto(a)maillist.ox.ac.uk, as of 31st October. Please check that you are no longer using that address. Another request: if you mention UKcrypto on a website, please make sure you are sending people to the right place! I receive a couple of subscription requests per day bounced through the Oxford address, which I currently deal with manually. If you link to UKcrypto, please link to the URL http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/ukcrypto or for the archives: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/pipermail/ukcrypto/ Thanks, Steve Early -- "...as we transfer our whole being to the data bank, privacy will become a ghost or echo of its former self and what remains of community will disappear"...Marshal McLuhan -- Robert Guerra <rguerra(a)yahoo.com>, Fax: +1(303) 484-0302 WWW Page <http://pgp.greatvideo.com>, ICQ # 10266626 PGPKeys <http://pgp.greatvideo.com/keys/rguerra/>

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Administrivia: old submission address to cease working
by Stephen Early 28 Oct '00

28 Oct '00

Oxford University Computing Service have notified me that they intend to cease forwarding mail sent to the old UKcrypto submission address, ukcrypto(a)maillist.ox.ac.uk, as of 31st October. Please check that you are no longer using that address. Another request: if you mention UKcrypto on a website, please make sure you are sending people to the right place! I receive a couple of subscription requests per day bounced through the Oxford address, which I currently deal with manually. If you link to UKcrypto, please link to the URL http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/ukcrypto or for the archives: http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/pipermail/ukcrypto/ Thanks, Steve Early -- "...as we transfer our whole being to the data bank, privacy will become a ghost or echo of its former self and what remains of community will disappear"...Marshal McLuhan -- Robert Guerra <rguerra(a)yahoo.com>, Fax: +1(303) 484-0302 WWW Page <http://pgp.greatvideo.com>, ICQ # 10266626 PGPKeys <http://pgp.greatvideo.com/keys/rguerra/>

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CDR: Re: Stealth Mass Mailer, 10 Million E-Addresses & More.. 17999
by Tim May 28 Oct '00

28 Oct '00

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CDR: Re: Oh Gawd, Tim May...
by George＠Orwellian.Org 28 Oct '00

28 Oct '00

# From: Tim May <tcmay(a)got.net> # To: George(a)Orwellian.Org, cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net Yo, Ding Dong, no need to send it to me twice. # I think I have a very good idea who you are. I should hope so, since I'm not anonymous. Ask Declan or Gilmore if you get stuck. # The cool thing is that you won't even # hear the crack of the rifle shot... No! I insist you terrorize me by shooting my legs first! <POW> Oh, I'm hit! Tim May has finally come to kill me! <POW> Oh, my other leg! I'll be dead soon! Terror!!! <POW> [redacted by Tim May]

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