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CDR: Re: Close Elections and Causality
by George＠Orwellian.Org 12 Nov '00

12 Nov '00

Kevin Elliott <k-elliott(a)wiu.edu> wrote: % This is why people who don't know statistics should not be allowed to % think... By no means is that number, by itself, of any significance % whatsoever. How many got canceled last election- one number I heard % said 14,000. If so then 19,000 is about what one would expect % considering increased voter turnout and normal statistical % fluctuations. Bzzzt! Wrong. http://interactive.wsj.com/articles/SB973893500998857873.htm # # November 10, 2000 # # Palm Beach Official Disputes Claim By Bush Campaign on Invalid # Ballots # # By JACKIE CALMES Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL # # WASHINGTON -- The Bush campaign is dead wrong on one of its prime # arguments in response to complaints about voter confusion in # Florida's Palm Beach County, according to a top county official. # # Palm Beach County Commissioner Carol Roberts said in an interview # Friday that about 30,000 ballots were invalidated for their # presidential selection this week because voters had punched two # holes or none. That is more than twice the 14,000 invalidated # in 1996, which could be evidence of some amount of voter confusion # about the county ballot's much-criticized design. # # This week, both Bush campaign Chairman Don Evans and chief # strategist Karl Rove have claimed that about 19,000 ballots' # presidential votes were invalidated, or not significantly more # than four years ago, when turnout was lower. But that 19,000 # represents only the invalidated ballots with two holes punched # for president, the commissioner says. More than 10,000 additional # ballots were invalidated for having no presidential vote, she # explains, for a combined 30,000. # # "It's not a correct argument," Ms. Roberts, a Democrat, said # of the Bush officials' contention that this year's invalidated # ballots are comparable to the number four years ago. "It's just # not accurate." Kevin Elliott <k-elliott(a)wiu.edu> wrote: % More importantly, the ballot was approved by both % parties before the election took place. Thus demonstrating the ballot design problem is non-partisan. I asked a [Bush-voting] friend why the live-and-let-die attitude towards such a large loss of people's votes, and he admitted it was because he wanted Bush to win, and that Gore probably had the votes.

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CDR: Organization
by tabu_luv＠yahoo.com 12 Nov '00

12 Nov '00

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CDR: 6th CACR Information Security Workshop - Slides now online
by Robert Guerra 12 Nov '00

12 Nov '00

Hi folks: I attended t he Sixth CACR Information Security Workshop in Toronto the other day . The slides presented by the speakers are online and available at the URL's below.. http://www.cacr.math.uwaterloo.ca/conferences/2000/isw-sixth/announcement.h… The Sixth CACR Information Security Workshop, also titled the 1st Annual Privacy and Security Workshop,was help on Friday, November 10, 2000 at the Fields Institute, Toronto, Ontario. Slides for the presentations are available at: http://www.cacr.math.uwaterloo.ca/conferences/2000/isw-sixth/slides2.html Slides available: Ann Cavoukian Privacy by Design: Building Trust into Technology David Wallace Meeting the Challenges og Privacy in the Ontario Government Barry Sookman Incorporating Privacy into the Security Domain: Issues and Solutions Stefan Brands PKI versus Private Credentials Brenda Watkins Security and Government On-Line: Getting the Model Right Peter Cullen Managing the Balance of Privacy - Why it Matters Jo Anne DeLaurentiis Privacy Protection Made Simple: How technical design can help you meet your commitment to privacy in the marketplace Guy Herriges The Privacy Impact Assessment Guidelines -- "...as we transfer our whole being to the data bank, privacy will become a ghost or echo of its former self and what remains of community will disappear"...Marshal McLuhan -- Robert Guerra <rguerra(a)yahoo.com>, Fax: +1(303) 484-0302 WWW Page <http://pgp.greatvideo.com>, ICQ # 10266626 PGPKeys <http://pgp.greatvideo.com/keys/rguerra/>

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CDR: Democrats are arguing for "statistical sampling voting"
by Tim May 12 Nov '00

12 Nov '00

Democrat spinners are now talking up the idea of using "statistical sampling" to assign some fraction of the spoiled ballots to Al Gore. Not a surprise, given that it was the Democrats who wanted to augment the "direct count" of the U.S. Census with "statistical fudge factors." I never thought I'd hear this bizarre notion extended to the vote, though! --Tim May -- ---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---------:---- Timothy C. May | Crypto Anarchy: encryption, digital money, ComSec 3DES: 831-728-0152 | anonymous networks, digital pseudonyms, zero W.A.S.T.E.: Corralitos, CA | knowledge, reputations, information markets, "Cyphernomicon" | black markets, collapse of governments.

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CDR: Re: A successful lawsuit means Gore wins!
by George＠Orwellian.Org 12 Nov '00

12 Nov '00

Declan, powerful Media Mogul, wrote: # George seems to have an unusual fixation on Vulis... THAT'S NOT FUNNY. White Supremacist Tim "I'd like to see a race riot" May Moroned: # I trust more in machines for counting machine ballots than I trust in # local politicians counting machine ballots. The Republican and Democratic members of the card examiners have agreed on objective standards. o if any corner of the "chad" is broken, then it is a choice. o merely indented or even "pregnant" (sunshine) are not a choice As far as I know, two opposing choices is still an invalidated ballot White Supremacist Tim "I'd like to see a race riot" May Moroned: # The Democrat Party is just trying to steal the election. You mean Dubya is, by virtue of going into federal court to stop a state recount that is provided for under Florida law. White Supremacist Tim "I'd like to see a race riot" May Moroned: # Blood in the street is about to flow. AH HA HA HA HA! You and your "Turner Diaries" wet dreams. White Supremacist Tim "I'd like to see a race riot" May Moroned: # No wonder the Democrat Party has been trying so hard to disarm us. No wondering about your brain: it's left the planet. Hey, Tim, put your wife on the list so we can talk to the rational one. If I ever find out your real name and where you live, I'm going to come over and deal with you. I'm going to lick you. Lick, Lick, Lick, Slobber, Lickity-lick-lick-lick. Yum, stupid white trash.

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CDR: Declan on Bell
by Eric Cordian 12 Nov '00

12 Nov '00

In a Wired News article, Declan reports: "In Bell's 1997, plea agreement, he admitted to owning chemicals that could be used to produce Sarin gas and to stink-bombing the carpet outside an IRS office." Yeah, and I own chemicals for making chlorine gas. Sodium hypochlorite solution, and sodium bisulphate. I use these "dangerous" chemicals when I do my laundry, and when I clean my bathroom. I think "chemicals that could be used to produce..." is pretty sleezy journalism, which could describe virtually anything. I think using the word "admitted" in describing a plea bargain taken in lieu of a much longer prison sentence is also pretty sleezy journalism. What were the chemicals in question? Does Bell, outside of documents the government makes him sign, claim to have made the IRS doormat smell bad? Does anyone with a clue think nitric acid is a ominous chemical for a chemist to own? I'm really getting tired of Jim Bell articles whose tone suggests that despite the egregious mistreatment of Mr. Bell, the government apprehended him just in the nick of time, before he killed millions with homemade weapons of mass destruction. Bell's Common Law Court was political theatre, his Assassination Politics essays satirical commentary on political accountability, and his documentation of smart-assed IRS employees consumer activism. Aside from not giving his government-issued Social Security number to an employer, the entire compendium of alleged Jim Bell crimes is little more than one of IRS Agent Jeff Gordon's more extreme masturbation fantasies. -- Eric Michael Cordian 0+ O:.T:.O:. Mathematical Munitions Division "Do What Thou Wilt Shall Be The Whole Of The Law"

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CDR: Bush Florida lead dwindles toward zero...
by George＠Orwellian.Org 12 Nov '00

12 Nov '00

Bush actually lost votes, a very bad omen for him. Partially detached chads tend to come off during repeated runs through the tabulating machinery. This recount is occurring without a court order, it's provided for by Florida law. http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/politics/12WIRE-PALM.html # # November 12, 2000 # # Palm Beach County Orders Manual Recount of Bush-Gore Vote # # By THE ASSOCIATED PRESS # # WEST PALM BEACH, Fla. - Palm Beach County officials ordered an # extraordinary countywide recount, by hand, of the more than # 425,000 votes cast in the presidential election for Al Gore and # George W. Bush. # # Gore added 36 votes and Bush lost three in a machine recount # of Palm Beach County in Florida's disputed presidential balloting. # A hand count of selected precincts turned up enough errors in # the election night vote to prompt county election officials to # order a complete recount by hand. The vote early Saturday was # 2-1. # # "This clearly would affect the national vote," said Carol Roberts, # a county commissioner and a member of the canvassing commission. # # Election officials said their exhaustive manual recount found # numerous differences from the machine count. Roberts said the # errors point to potentially 1,900 errors county wide -- more # than the existing statewide margin between Bush and Gore. # # At stake is no less than the presidency, since Florida will # deliver 25 electoral votes.

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CDR: Your IFILM registration is confirmed!
by registration＠ifilm.com 12 Nov '00

12 Nov '00

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CDR: Re: Ruling Says Parents Have Right to See List of Sites Students Visit
by Bob Jonkman 12 Nov '00

12 Nov '00

I want to tell you what An Metet <cypherpunks(a)openpgp.net> said about "Ruling Says Parents Have Right to S" on 11 Nov 2000, at 0:41 > In an opinion sure to heighten the tension between some parents > and school systems over the Internet's role in publicly financed > education, a New Hampshire judge has decided that a parent is > entitled to see a list of the Internet sites or addresses visited > by computer users at local schools. And so I wonder if this applies equally well to the "blocked site" lists used by blocking software that a school might use -- as a parent I want to know exactly from which sites the school is protecting my child... (and not merely the sites my child has attempted to access and been blocked from) Perhaps the blocking software companies who sell to schools and libraries may need to disclose their lists based on this decision! --Bob

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CDR: Welcome to Prius_Technical_Stuff
by Prius_Technical_Stuff Moderator 12 Nov '00

12 Nov '00

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