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CDR: Infiltrating a Spy Conference
by blah＠blah.net 14 Nov '00

14 Nov '00

I thought you might find this story interesting: "Infiltrating a Spy Conference" http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=10014 ------------------------------------- This story has been forwarded to you from http://www.alternet.org by blah(a)blah.net.

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CDR: Re: A secure voting protocol
by Trei, Peter 14 Nov '00

14 Nov '00

> From: Ken Brown[SMTP:k.brown@ccs.bbk.ac.uk] > > Bill Stewart wrote: > > and that the people who voted all existed and were unique, > > That's the hard part. Do you have to give id to vote? Here we don't, so > impersonation is possible. Rare I think (doing it enough times to > influence a nationwide, or even a city or county -wide election would be > risky) although it is rumoured to be traditional in parts of Northern > Ireland - from where it was rumoured to have been exported to parts of > north America :-) > One solution I've seen used in 3rd world countries is to require people who have just voted to dip a forefinger into a cup of intense, penetrating dye, which they are very unlikely to be able to remove in one day. I can state from personal experience that Silver Nitrate solution will produce stains on skin which gradually blacken in the light, and don't come off till your skin wears off. Mixing the dye with a transport agent such as DMSO would also work. Peter Trei

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CDR: Welcome to CNN Community
by community＠cnn.com 14 Nov '00

14 Nov '00

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CDR: Katz /. piece on improving "political technology"
by R. A. Hettinga 14 Nov '00

14 Nov '00

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=00/11/09/2042224 While I understand the rubber-hose vote-coercion problem, My own opinion still remains that we need to solve the voting problem for *business* reasons, and that's how we'll get to use it first. You need secure voting protocols in order to control equity, after all, and, frankly, I'm not nearly as skeptical as others are about it. Without any reasons for my intuition here, I think that some of the problems some cryptographic experts have about internet voting are mostly bugbears, like "perfect" kidnapping scenarios for digital cash itself, for instance. And, of course, I think that the "problem" of selling votes is more one of attitude adjustment. After all we sell votes in corporations all the time, and, sooner or later, we're going to treat our force-control structures as non-monopolistic businesses instead of monopolistic nation-states. In the same way that religious freedom gave us religious denominations with democratic governance, sooner or later economic freedom will give us force-control that can be sold just like any other asset. Voteauction.com is a pointer to that, frankly. So, workable solutions for voting will happen first in *corporate* governance, in shareholder voting, proxies and so on. After we solve the problem of voting about *money*, mere politics will be a piece of cake. Financial cryptography is the only cryptography that matters. Political cryptography is a mere sideshow by comparison. Cheers, RAH -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 6.5.8 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> iQEVAwUBOhE8HcUCGwxmWcHhAQG2HQf/UkPSaY6lwgIzuA4VOydZb+EpYX0kCnDn oCiG+zPq+0ktJ2Ykum3EFUANldxlAB/tVfDHCIuRiAskrQWNdEEDSFpLA2cjusqo hjfrZFLnmHiYsNONvngSU6AZBYWk/ctZOBNK2YKssZtjksk3810PU3SH+0fhCIAw vMW6wZOTMBa/V0LOwR3gJFM8N8WJfUqZ2pcrLG8eO2axqiYfkXCKcDCKxcumWHrA vpnP3wvRyKBdqFOf60Q0H+DEAeUpZb1kuJ4sKvzniri66lk/W15ImM0FKyAxvSVx ocHaJ09ZdBHUJuBC7hHv6zVwpUNCscwz8tO07Fg4XDTrXUn88EcAUg== =qoOX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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CDR: voting tech & radio buttons
by David Honig 14 Nov '00

14 Nov '00

Intercepted in popmedia: Some dude of Shoup Corp which makes voting machines, or used to 21 years ago (there are no parts available), demonstrated that you can lock out choices after you've pulled one lever. Which would eliminate certain bozos double-punching their political-hollerith cards. What a concept. These days we call it a radio-button. [Actually a variant, "one-shot" kinda radio button in this case, because you can't rollback your vote. That's probably a deficiency, but it might be due to this barbarian mechanical tech making illegit rollbacks possible if you allow voter rollbacks.] I suppose various floridians would like a modal message box asking, You're voting for BROWNE (LIB), is this correct? [YES] [VOTE AGAIN] Much like crypto, its User interface, user interface, user interface...

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CDR: Predicting a succesful society
by Jim Choate 14 Nov '00

14 Nov '00

It get's off it's home planet permanently. The difference in scale of resource potential between a planet bound, versus a (multi-)planetary system bound society are incomparable. Issues of life-span are generaly irrelevant, the two technologies develop hand in hand (there will of course be some synchronisation issues in particular instances) and will offset any fundamental distance issue. In general, such societies will be very rare. ____________________________________________________________________ He is able who thinks he is able. Buddha The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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CDR: Yahoo! Auto Response
by tabu_luv＠yahoo.com 14 Nov '00

14 Nov '00

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CDR: Meet us on Wine Alley
by fx.bodin＠winealley.com 14 Nov '00

14 Nov '00

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CDR: Amazon's new user interface.
by Trei, Peter 14 Nov '00

14 Nov '00

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/subst/home/all-stores-ballot.html/106-5432 692-8816419 It's worth looking at. Peter

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CDR: Please take me off your mailing list!
by Gerry_Inman＠mony.com 14 Nov '00

14 Nov '00

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