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Re: Re: AT&T signs bulk hosting contract with spammers
by Bill Stewart 15 Dec '00

15 Dec '00

>On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Declan McCullagh wrote: > > >>BTW the first things the Feds are now saying when they speak in public >>(http://www.mccullagh.org/image/950-17/aba-netspionage-broadcast.html) >>is that they do not come in and cart off everything you own. At least >>that's the latest spin. :) Of course they don't. Carting stuff is a job for union workers, so that's done by the General Services Administration, unless there's some other local union contract that requires your city's workers to do it. And deciding whether you own things or not is a long legal process, as is identifying what things you might own that are somewhere else. So instead they just have the aforementioned union or city workers cart away everything you _have_, and cart back anything later determined to belong to someone else, unless it looks suspictious, of course. Thanks! Bill Bill Stewart, bill.stewart(a)pobox.com PGP Fingerprint D454 E202 CBC8 40BF 3C85 B884 0ABE 4639

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DoveBid News
by News＠DoveBid.com 15 Dec '00

15 Dec '00

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Re: AT&T signs bulk hosting contract with spammers
by Alan Olsen 15 Dec '00

15 Dec '00

On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Declan McCullagh wrote: > On Mon, Nov 06, 2000 at 06:52:54PM -0800, Alan Olsen wrote: > > And after they get rooted by the script kiddies for the millionth time, > > maybe they will get a clue and allow people to find and fix the holes > > without having to worry about the feds carting off every thing they own. > > BTW the first things the Feds are now saying when they speak in public > (http://www.mccullagh.org/image/950-17/aba-netspionage-broadcast.html) > is that they do not come in and cart off everything you own. At least > that's the latest spin. :) Just anything of value... alan(a)ctrl-alt-del.com | Note to AOL users: for a quick shortcut to reply Alan Olsen | to my mail, just hit the ctrl, alt and del keys. "In the future, everything will have its 15 minutes of blame."

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Cyber Intifada: The Digital warriors of Arabia
by Matthew Gaylor 15 Dec '00

15 Dec '00

Source: The Star, Jordan Type: Web Pointer; Web Sample Date: 14 December 2000 Title: Cyber Intifada: The Digital warriors of Arabia TEXT: The Star: Jordan's Politicial, Economic and Cultural Weekly http://www.star.com.jo/ Nov (2 - 8) 2000, Issue No. 20 06 - Dec - 2000 /02:32 PM G INTERFACE: Digital warriors of Arabia IT'S OFFICIAL: The Internet is the latest battleground. If you've been reading the news recently, you will probably have noticed reports on website hack-attacks between Arab and Israeli users. Nov 05, 2000, 04:42 PM BY ZEID NASSER JORDAN (Star) - IT'S OFFICIAL: The Internet is the latest battleground. If you've been reading the news recently, you will probably have noticed reports on website hack-attacks between Arab and Israeli users. It started last week, with an Israeli attack on the Hezbollah website (www.hizbollah.com) by which hackers crashed the site's server by flooding it with requests. It was an organized effort, carried out by several hackers. A news report stated that the attack on Hezbollah's site was first initiated by a message that was circulated over the ICQ instant messaging service. The message urged users to help their "Israeli friends" take the Hezbollah site down by using a ping command on their PCs. Throughout the day, Israeli users plotted their attack, and implemented it. Later in the week, a number of Israeli government sites were attacked, including the site of the Foreign Ministry and the Prime Minister's website. It became quite apparent that this would be the beginning of a wave of attacks and counter attacks, pitting the hacking skills of Arabs against the skills of Israelis. Reports began to emerge that all sorts of Arabic and Israeli websites were crashing under attack. Political, academic and even entertainment sites were coming under attack. The Amman-based news portal, albawaba.com, got hit by a flood of pro-Israeli messages on one of its discussion forums, which resulted in the political forum being closed down until the technicians diverted the messages and reopened it. On the other hand a newspaper reported, in detail, how an Arab hacker, who calls himself Dodi, succeeded in "defacing the Netanya Academy site in Israel, leaving a message that attacked Israel and the US and criticized Arab governments. The activist said he would carry on with his attacks until the whole Internet backbone in Israel was down." Obviously, there are enough Arab Internet users out there to counter attack. In fact, if numbers count in this new web- war, Israeli sites will probably be worried at the potential Arab Internet population! So, the skirmishes continue and are set to go on, with more dangerous prospects emerging as the networks of governments, and large private corporations may become more vulnerable. Hackers seeking to cause maximum damage will target public records, which should be easily accessible over the web soon, due to the adoption of the concept of e-government. That's quite frightening. Opening up some of the government's computer networks to 'outsider' access could compromise the security of government records and result in all sorts of damage. Citizens like you and me will be pleased to enjoy the convenience of applying for a license online, but 'nasty' hackers will jump to the opportunity of delving into this e-government server, and finding out how far they can get into the government's other networks through it! So, apart from Internet warfare, there is the somewhat more worrying aspect of security breaches in government Intranets. The issue here is whether there is enough security to prevent the possibility of any harm being done by an intelligent, motivated hacker. If the hacker is the 'enemy', then who knows what kind of remorseless data theft and data destruction will be carried out. Apart from the damage done, the downtime will frustrate the network users, just like 39,000 Microsoft employees were locked out of the company network this week due to a hack attack! Contrary to the 'patriotic' nature of recent hacking incidents in the Middle East, hacking cases tend to be corporate crime incidents. That kind of hacking will soon be happening in our region too. However, for now, the hackers are using their skills for patriotic purposes; seeking vengeance for crimes committed against the Palestinian people. Some people are calling them the 'secret warriors'. I like to think of them as the digital warriors of Arabia, in a battleground that transcends the traditional limitations of state borders. What we are witnessing now is just the beginning. One thing is for sure, there's more to come! ) The Star 2000-2001 A premier partner of arabia.com Text accessible online at http://www.star.com.jo/article/0,5596,16_98,00.html ************************************************************************** Subscribe to Freematt's Alerts: Pro-Individual Rights Issues Send a blank message to: freematt(a)coil.com with the words subscribe FA on the subject line. List is private and moderated (7-30 messages per month) Matthew Gaylor, 1933 E. Dublin-Granville Rd., PMB 176, Columbus, OH 43229 (614) 313-5722 Archived at http://www.egroups.com/list/fa/ **************************************************************************

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FBI Sniff Correction
by John Young 15 Dec '00

15 Dec '00

Correction of first URL: On December 6 Cryptome published a list of some 2600 names of alleged "CIA sources," provided by a person named Gregory Douglas, who claims to have received the list from Robert Crowley, once Deputy Director of Operations for the CIA: http://cryptome.org/cia-2619.htm (167KB)

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Security Against Compelled Disclosure (fwd)
by Jim Choate 15 Dec '00

15 Dec '00

____________________________________________________________________ Before a larger group can see the virtue of an idea, a smaller group must first understand it. "Stranger Suns" George Zebrowski The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- -------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2000 11:47:31 +0000 From: Ben Laurie <ben(a)algroup.co.uk> To: UKCrypto <ukcrypto(a)chiark.greenend.org.uk>, Coderpunks <coderpunks(a)toad.com>, Cryptography <cryptography(a)c2.net> Subject: Security Against Compelled Disclosure People may be interested in a paper Ian Brown and I wrote, with the above title, for ACSAC. http://www.apache-ssl.org/disclosure.pdf Cheers, Ben. -- http://www.apache-ssl.org/ben.html "There is no limit to what a man can do or how far he can go if he doesn't mind who gets the credit." - Robert Woodruff

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Re: Final Carnivore Report Offers No New Answers
by mmotyka＠lsil.com 15 Dec '00

15 Dec '00

It's all well and good to hear this coming from a Congressman but this is a Republican Congressman who is using it as a opportunity to attack a Democratic Administration : should we read anything into this statement regarding some significant difference between the two parties in regards privacy and 4th Ammendment issues? Hardly. Mike > This just in from US House Majority Leader Dick Armey: > > - Final Carnivore Report Offers No New Answers > A newly released, final version of the report on the Carnivore > cybersnooping system offers no assurance that online transactions > will be kept confidential. > > http://freedom.gov/library/technology/carn-review3.asp > > US House Majority Leader Dick Armey made the following comments about > the newly released, final report on the Carnivore cybersnooping > system: This superficial review doesn't get to the heart of the > matter. It does nothing to restore the confidence that Americans > should have in the confidentiality of their online transactions. > > Why should average Internet users have to wonder whether a rogue > agent could snoop through their emails and other online transactions? > > If this Administration were actually interested in an honest > evaluation of Carnivore, it would have shut the system down until the > serious privacy concerns had been adequately addressed. Instead, this > review by a team with clear ties to this Administration raises more > concerns than it answers. > > Regards, Matt- >

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Re: This is why a free society is evil. [Re: This is why HTML email is evil.]
by Tim May 15 Dec '00

15 Dec '00

At 9:40 AM -0500 12/15/00, auto58194(a)hushmail.com wrote: >Tim May wrote: >> >> In a free society, free economy, then employers and employees are >> much more flexible. A solid contributor would not be fired for >> something so trivial as having a porn picture embedded in some minor >> way. Hell, a solid contributor probably wouldn't be fired even for >> sending MPEG porn movies to his buddies! >> > >Depends on your definition of a free society, free economy. In my definition, > free society, free economy property holders are free to use the power derived >from their property in order to protect their property and also to advance >their own agenda. > >I don't know if your example involved a claim the Personnel Dept. bimbo >was acting as an agent of the company's property holders or not, but that's >just the advancing agenda situation. The reason the company now prohibits all sorts of activities, and the reason the Personnel Commissar is inspecting offices, is because of _externalities_ like lawsuits, harassment charges, etc. In a free society, these externalities would vanish. >I suspect you'd be happier if property >holders didn't hire people prone to making decisions advancing their own >individual agendas. Unfortunately, it's hard to find perfect people and >it's still the decision of the property holder to hire them and allow them >to make decisions without supervision. You seem to fundammentally misunderstand the situation. The reason the Personnel Commissar is ordering sensitivity training, workshops, and is requiring that posters of Brittny Spears be removed from office walls is because government and lawyers have made companies liable in various ways for "discriminatory" or "sexist" or suchlike behaviors. One of my fellow engineers at Intel had a large poster of the famous early 80s porn star, "Seka," on his walls--she was, in this poster, clothed, albeit skimpily. Some of the secretaries clucked, and retaliated by putting up Chippendales calendars, including full frontal nudity. Would such things be tolerated today? Nope. And not because of the personal choices of a particluarl Personnel bimbo. Nope, the fear is of lawsuits. This was my point about a free society. > >Even so, a property holder is equally free to protect their property by >deciding that firing an individual accused of an action is less of a cost >than the legal actions and/or bad press that might otherwise result. Firing >actions don't have to be rational and property owners are free to be gutless. You're really missing the point, aren't you? Go back and think about the issues more deeply. --Tim May -- Timothy C. May tcmay(a)got.net Corralitos, California Political: Co-founder Cypherpunks/crypto anarchy/Cyphernomicon Technical: physics/soft errors/Smalltalk/Squeak/agents/games/Go Personal: 1951/UCSB/Intel '74-'86/retired/investor/motorcycles/guns

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by root 15 Dec '00

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