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Levy's Crypto
by John Young 29 Dec '00

29 Dec '00

After reading Steve Levy's "Crypto," two points he covers still intrigue: the true origin of public key encryption and the true origin of cypherpunks. Intriguing, to this reader at least, is the link between the two in fostering public use of crypto -- and whether there was covert involvement of TLAs in both efforts. Levy does not examine this possibility, but the affairs and persons he explores do offer tantalizing hope for there being more than has been made part of the public record. Levy writes a swell account of the public, bright side of crypto liberation, and why there's not more about the dark side is a mystery, for there's not a really bad character, or agency, in the whole tome. To be sure, Levy notes that the awful aspects of crypto is either classified, NDA or criminal, thus not fit for angelic e-commerce and PGPeople's liberation.

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by unknown＠example.com 29 Dec '00

29 Dec '00

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Re: The Cost of Natural Gas [was Re: The Cost of California Liberalism]
by auto58194＠hushmail.com 29 Dec '00

29 Dec '00

For those who care, take a look at http://www.nytimes.com/2000/12/10/opinion/10KRUG.html which is an op-ed piece by an MIT Economics prof. describing the California situation in the same terms I have. He cites a paper which in turn cites evidence that artificial shortages were previously created in the UK (1996) and California (1998 & 1999). Unfortunately no detail, but it is more than just random conspiracy theory. While no doubt a good number of the readers of this list will consider him to be a Communist from the People's Republic of Cambridge, perhaps most will at least admit he knows more than basic economics 101. Even if you don't care about natural gas or California's deregulation brownout, it is a good example of why "free" markets, economies, societies, etc. don't really work.

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Low Interest Loans From Aggressive Funding Institutions! 14660
by a.hahne＠mbox318.swipnet.se 29 Dec '00

29 Dec '00

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Opportunity
by INQUIRE＠CAREEREXPANSION.COM 29 Dec '00

29 Dec '00

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CPRM FAQ
by sunder 29 Dec '00

29 Dec '00

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/2/15718.html Everything you ever wanted to know about CPRM, but ZDNet wouldn't tell you... By: Andrew Orlowski in San Francisco Posted: 29/12/2000 at 09:07 GMT <SNIP> 11. Won't an encrypted file system, or a virtual file system bypass CPRM? Of course it will. In any operating system, device driver authors are free to reject the CPRM calls made by a software application. So the OS need not store CPRM digital media. Virtual file systems simply add another rejection point at which CRPM can be bounced off the system, and you're clean. With a software libre operating system (a BSD, Linux or AtheOS) let's assume that this is more likely to happen than with a commercial operating system (Windows, MacOS, Solaris). But what then? We hear a GNU... <SNIP> -- ----------------------Kaos-Keraunos-Kybernetos--------------------------- + ^ + :Surveillance cameras|Passwords are like underwear. You don't /|\ \|/ :aren't security. A |share them, you don't hang them on your/\|/\ <--*-->:camera won't stop a |monitor, or under your keyboard, you \/|\/ /|\ :masked killer, but |don't email them, or put them on a web \|/ + v + :will violate privacy|site, and you must change them very often. --------_sunder_(a)_sunder_._net_------- http://www.sunder.net ------------

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Re: This is why a free society is evil. [Re: This is why HTML email is evil.]
by Tim May 29 Dec '00

29 Dec '00

At 11:54 AM -0800 12/15/00, Ray Dillinger wrote: >On Fri, 15 Dec 2000, Tim May wrote: > >>The reason the company now prohibits all sorts of activities, and the >>reason the Personnel Commissar is inspecting offices, is because of >>_externalities_ like lawsuits, harassment charges, etc. In a free >>society, these externalities would vanish. > >>Nope, the fear is of lawsuits. > >Do you posit that people should not be free to file lawsuits? Yes, in these cases, they should _NOT_ be able to file lawsuits. -- If an employee doesn't like the calendar that another employee has on his desk, she can talk to others in the company. Maybe they'll have it removed. But she CANNOT use the courts to intervene in a matter of how the company's owners deal with their property. -- and so on, for other examples I could construct. Lawsuits should only be "allowed" when some matter of law is involved. > > >Why do you regard harassment charges as external? Basically >the goal of a business owner is to have people capable of both >producing and working together. If you have two workers who >are both productive but who can't work together (for example, >one guy who makes dirty jokes and sends porn movies around, and >one woman who takes mighty offense and brings charges against >anyone who acts like that) you have to decide which one to get >rid of. Sure, one of them may have to go. Such was it 20 years ago, such was it 100 years ago. But the court system and EEOC sorts of offices were not involved until in recent decades. Whether I as a business owner allow "girlie calendars" on the walls of my shop is no business of the State. > >As more and more women are in the workforce, the possible cost >in productivity from such obnoxious behavior rises; If the >company is allowing the guy to be offensive on company time >or using company email accounts, they wind up offending a large >part of their workforce. They stand to lose a lot of other >productive employees by keeping one productive jerk on board. Such "possible cost in productivity" issues are matters for the business owners to decide upon, not the courts, and not regulatory agencies. > >And this is a completely separate issue from the legal liability. >The legal liability, again, is not an externality: The company >has to allow its resources to be used in this way in order to >become liable. The company could, to be fair, refuse to allow >its resources to be used to file the suits -- but that could not >stop the suits from being filed on personal time, any more than >refusing to allow company resources to be used to spread porn >can stop a jerk from spreading porn on personal time. I give up. Reading your stuff here makes me realize why it is hopeless to argue with those infected with legalitus. You will make a fine lawyer. Meanwhile, I have decided life is too short to waste it by reading your legalisms, so I am must put you in my filter file. --Tim May -- Timothy C. May tcmay(a)got.net Corralitos, California Political: Co-founder Cypherpunks/crypto anarchy/Cyphernomicon Technical: physics/soft errors/Smalltalk/Squeak/agents/games/Go Personal: 1951/UCSB/Intel '74-'86/retired/investor/motorcycles/guns

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I need a bulk friendly ISP....
by needbulkisp＠yahoo.com 29 Dec '00

29 Dec '00

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cprm satire
by Tom Vogt 29 Dec '00

29 Dec '00

as funny as it's sad: http://www.segfault.org/story.phtml?mode=2&id=3a4beb84-00cca880 A group of technology companies have handed down a ruling saying that all consumers are guilty of piracy. The group, known as the "4C Imperial Consortium as Appointed by God" is developing CPRM (Consumer Protection Removal Methodology).

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maurers algorithm
by kiran Napit 29 Dec '00

29 Dec '00

Hi there please provide me with maurers deterministic algorithm for generating strong primes as fast as possible. If possible please give me the implementation of the same. thank u kiran. __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Photos - Share your holiday photos online! http://photos.yahoo.com/

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