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more on tax protest
by Subcommander Bob 17 Jul '01

17 Jul '01

http://www.newsmax.com/showinsidecover.shtml?a=2001/7/17/122855 Tuesday, July 17, 2001 1:27 p.m. EDT Tennessee Radio Talker Sets Record Straight on Tax Protest Over the weekend Tennessee newspapers were filled with reports of a near-riot at the State Capitol on Friday, after two Nashville talk radio hosts exhorted their listeners to march on the Legislature in protest over plans for a new statewide income tax. WLAC-AM's Phil Valentine and WWTN-FM's Steve Gill's call to arms prompted what the Memphis Commercial Appeal described as a "sometimes violent" altercation between police and up to 2,000 protesters, an episode legislators called "harrowing and intimidating." "I was in fear for my safety last night," state senator David Fowler later told Gill. "I was afraid someone might get shot." Reports of widespread window breaking made the protesters seem even more riotous. But Valentine tells NewsMax.com that the disruption, small as it was, was the result of police overreaction - more than 100 cops, some clad in riot gear, who were summoned to the scene by Gov. Don Sundquist, who backs the tax hike. "I began my remote broadcast in front of the Capitol and the people kept coming," the Tennessee radio talker explained. "Suddenly, the Nashville Police moved in. One motorcycle cop began ticketing motorists for horn honking. They brought in cops on horseback. The state police donned riot gear." Only later did Valentine learn that, as he put it, "some idiot had thrown a rock through the reception area window of the governor's office." The incident sent state troopers into overdrive, the radioman told NewsMax.com. "Two different people in cars were pulled from their vehicles and handcuffed," Valentine said. "One was a gentleman who dared ask a cop his name after he witnessed him verbally abusing a woman in her car. The second was a mother, riding with her husband and 3-year-old daughter." According to the afternoon-drive-time talker, when the officer told the woman to go home she replied that it was her "constitutional right to protest." He shot back, "I'll show you a constitutional right." In a flash, the officer swung into action. According to Valentine, he began to "pull the woman from the passenger side of the car, then handcuffed her and threw her in the back of a squad car in front of her hysterical little girl." After the altercation, Valentine had both protesters on his show to describe their ordeals. Besides the folks he interviewed, Valentine says a local television news station caught a state trooper on videotape "choking one protester, then throwing him to the ground and dragging him by one foot while the guy showed no resistance." Tennessee media reports painting the demonstrators as a rabble-rousing mob hell-bent on violence are a complete distortion, the popular Nashville host insisted. "I was right in the middle of it. We had everything from soccer moms to grandmas and kids of all ages. It was more of a patriotic Fourth of July-type atmosphere than anything else." --------- "Ok. That's pretty much my limit." ---Black Unicorn

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binding keys to meat makes our job so much easier..
by Subcommander Bob 17 Jul '01

17 Jul '01

>From: Paul Elliott <pelliott(a)io.com> >In order to participate in the party, please take the following >steps: >(B) email your public key to me by noon the day before the party July 25. > Please indicate in your subject line the nature of the message. Please do not include anything that may confuse the Carnivore box on my ISP. > I will use these keys to prepare a list of key IDs and > fingerprints which will facilitate the party. I will Xerox > this list. My FBI handler gets a copy, of course. >(C) Bring 2 things to the party: > (b) Identification, preferably picture identification to > prove that you are you. Why should you need State Paperwork to assert that some chunk of meat wishes to associate with some PK? > The party will be run according to the non-coercion > principle. No one is required to bring any particular > form of ID. > > However, the non-coercion principle works two ways. > If that ID that you bring does not persuade other people > that you are you, then they are not required to sign > your KEY! > > My advice, try a drivers license if possible. Preferably someone else's. Why not bring some Draft Registration cards from the Post Office, too.

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17 Jul '01

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Re: Philip Morris, in the news
by George＠Orwellian.Org 17 Jul '01

17 Jul '01

Tim May wrote: # # I've been telling people this at parties for many years: since most # smokers are productive up until the time they develop lung cancer # (maybe more so, due to the nicotine high), and because they typically # develop lung cancer after their most productive years but before # their declining years, smoking should be REQUIRED. # # The fact that lung cancer typically is not expensive to treat is a plus. # # Press reports of the above story are, as usual, missing the essential # truth of the point and are focusing on the "callousness" of the Giant # Corporations. What struck me, and perhaps I should have said so explicitly, was the contradiction between this advice to the Czech gov, versus the sworn Congressional testimony by the heads of the tobacco companies that they believed there was not enough evidence to say smoking causes disease.

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Condit Censured, To Be Flogged
by Anonymous 17 Jul '01

17 Jul '01

WASHINGTON, D.C. July 17 (Reuters) - Rep. Gary Condit's popularity rating took another dip today when the U.S. House of Representatives voted to censure the errant Congressman and, in a surprise move, to have him publicly flogged next week at the George Washington Memorial Whipping Post in the Washington Mall. "We needed to send a message to the American people that we will no longer tolerate murderers in high public office in the United States. We hear what the American people is saying and we want to communicate in the clearest way possible that the Clinton Era is over." said House Majority Leader Dick Armey (R.). "Gary has been asking for this in so many different ways that I almost think he wants it. That is my only regret." Condit has not yet been convicted of murder, so the House acted under an obscure provision originally intended to keep minors out of the prison system. The Congressman will receive ten lashes from a trained employee of the Bureau of Prisons at high noon, July 23. After each stroke, one of the Ten Commandments will be read to, and then repeated by, Condit. Should any errors occur, the count will start again from the beginning. Government spokesmen were unsure whether the Commandments were to be read from the King James version of the Bible or in the original Hebrew. After the flogging, Condit will be confined to the public stocks for eight hours to be taunted by the crowd and pelted with rotten produce. "I don't like Mondays" was Condit's only comment on the sentence. The family of Chandra Levy, Condit's suspected victim, declined an invitation to VIP seating at the event. "We appreciate and empathize with the sentiment of the U.S. Congress in this matter, but we would prefer to see the process of law properly followed. Condit is being punished for being another lying Bible-thumping scumbag, but he should be tried and punished for his actual crime. We would like to know what happened to our daughter." said Levy's father. The Levy family has been critical of the handling of the case by the Washington, D.C. police who are widely seen as having treated it differently from others. A D.C. police spokesman has hotly denied that interpretation, stating "It is the standard practice of our department to delay searching the home of a prime murder suspect with political influence for two months and then try to pin the crime on some black guy, or possibly claim the victim killed him or herself. Nobody is receiving special treatment." Condit spokesmen maintain that Condit has been falsely accused and is the victim of mass hysteria. "It would be hard to murder any young attractive woman in this city without finding a squirrely Congressman somehow involved who would lie about his relationship with her." Civil libertarians have expressed concern that Condit's punishment erodes the division between Church and State, a treasured American tradition. The ACLU has proposed that the Bill of Rights be substituted for the Ten Commandments, but has declined to challenge the punishment in court. Said a spokesman, "We have defended Nazis, Klansmen, child molesters, and Communists, but Rep. Condit has sunk so low that not even the ACLU is willing to touch him no matter what the merits of the case." The ACLU is rumored to be considering a challenge on the grounds that it is "cruel" to permit the Congressman to keep his life. The Bill of Rights proposal received a cool reception on Capitol Hill amid suggestions that Condit is not the only Congressman who would benefit from learning its provisions in a like manner.

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How to manage the Cypherpunks Distributed Remailer (Really)
by Jim Choate 17 Jul '01

17 Jul '01

http://einstein.ssz.com/cdr [Note to admins: anyone interested in collaborating on a little cron'ed notice that has (un)sub dir's as well as brief blurbs about each of the nodes and their policies?] -- ____________________________________________________________________ Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night: God said, "Let Tesla be", and all was light. B.A. Behrend The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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CNN.com - FBI missing computers, weapons - July 17, 2001
by Jim Choate 17 Jul '01

17 Jul '01

http://www.cnn.com/2001/US/07/17/FBI.computers/index.html -- -- ____________________________________________________________________ Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night: God said, "Let Tesla be", and all was light. B.A. Behrend The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Philip Morris, in the news
by George＠Orwellian.Org 17 Jul '01

17 Jul '01

<SNERK> MSNBC reports Philip Morris has advised the Czech government, in writing, that they would save millions in retirement benefits if they promoted more smoking. Philip Morris responded to a request for comment by saying, "It was just an economic study." U.S. companies are just trying to be helpful. ;-)

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Burning a flag is a hate crime...
by Jim Choate 17 Jul '01

17 Jul '01

Isn't making a law against burning the flag equally a demonstration of hate? The land of political and religious freedom indeed. -- ____________________________________________________________________ Nature and Nature's laws lay hid in night: God said, "Let Tesla be", and all was light. B.A. Behrend The Armadillo Group ,::////;::-. James Choate Austin, Tx /:'///// ``::>/|/ ravage(a)ssz.com www.ssz.com .', |||| `/( e\ 512-451-7087 -====~~mm-'`-```-mm --'- --------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: Your kid's an asshole, and guess who's to blame?
by George＠Orwellian.Org 17 Jul '01

17 Jul '01

# http://www.Kuro5hin.org/story/2001/7/14/85942/3961 % % The question is, how do basically good people % do such a great job of screwing up their kids? % % Again, the answer is MONEY. # # James Choate # Product Certification - Operating Systems # Staff Engineer # 512-436-1062 # jchoate(a)tivoli.com GO wrote: # # Well, that's brilliant. # # Is this part of your crackpot economic theories? KAOS wrote: # # Free market economics are crackpot? Once again, you can't answer a simple question. Once again, you responded with a cryptic question. You are the only person for whom it is not cryptic. No one knows what you're talking about, why you posted it, why you pester us. GO wrote: > Is that why you've posted it? KAOS wrote: # # I didn't post 'it'. All I posted was the URL, the 'extra # commentary' along with your mis-assignment of authorship # is all your horse doodoo. All your stuff was clearly attributed with a '#'. The central thesis of the article whose URL you posted was "MONEY" was responsible for screwed up kids. When asked about it, you utterly failed to communicate why your posted the URL, what your position was on the article you posted about. You are incoherent regarding the articles you yourself are posting. Is it any wonder you are hated?

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