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OT: Happy Fun Ball (Court)
by Trei, Peter 09 Aug '01

09 Aug '01

As a public service, I'd thought I'd explain for our foreign (or just younger) subscribers the root reference of 'Happy Fun Court'. The American comedy show Saturday Night Live usually runs 1-2 fake ads per show. Some are better than others. In 1990, one ad showed smiling children playing with their 'Happy Fun Balls'. At the end, the ad ran a disclaimer (American products often come with ludicrously detailed warnings and disclaimers, due to our corrupt legal system). It read: -------------------------------------- Happy FUN BALL! -only $14.95- Warning: Pregnant women, the elderly and children under 10 should avoid prolonged exposure to Happy Fun Ball. Caution: Happy Fun Ball may suddenly accelerate to dangerous speeds. Happy Fun Ball Contains a liquid core, which, if exposed due to rupture, should not be touched, inhaled, or looked at. Do not use Happy Fun Ball on concrete. Discontinue use of Happy Fun Ball if any of the following occurs: Itching Vertigo Dizziness Tingling in extremities Loss of balance or coordination Slurred speech Temporary blindness Profuse sweating Heart palpitations If Happy Fun Ball begins to smoke, get away immediately. Seek shelter and cover head. Happy Fun Ball may stick to certain types of skin. When not in use, Happy Fun Ball should be returned to its special container and kept under refrigeration... Failure to do so relieves the makers of Happy Fun Ball, Wacky Products Incorporated, and its parent company Global Chemical Unlimited, of any and all liability. Ingredients of Happy Fun Ball include an unknown glowing substance which fell to Earth, presumably from outer space. Happy Fun Ball has been shipped to our troops in Saudi Arabia and is also being dropped by our warplanes on Iraq. Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball. Happy Fun Ball comes with a lifetime guarantee. Happy Fun Ball ACCEPT NO SUBSTITUTES!

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RE: Linux On Steroids: DIY supercomputer software from Sandia
by Trei, Peter 09 Aug '01

09 Aug '01

> Tim May[SMTP:tcmay@got.net] wrote: > > > On Wednesday, August 8, 2001, at 02:28 PM, Faustine wrote: > > > Lots of interesting possibilities for cryptographic applications, I'm > > sure... > > http://www.cs.sandia.gov/ > > > Except when was the last time you heard of a Cypherpunks-interesting > cipher being broken with _any_ amount of computer crunching? > > (The "challenges" broken by a couple of our own list members over the > past several years were all weak ciphers by modern standards, or had key > lengths way below even the recommended lengths of the day. [...] > There are indeed some cryptographic uses for big computers, but not much > of real interest here. Some voice- and traffic-analysis stuff, but not > cracking modern ciphers. > --Tim May > I'll second this - the early 40 bit SSL cracks, and the RSA Symmetric challenges, operated to force acknowledgement that 40 and 56 bit keylengths were simply inadequate. I was particularly steamed by some Clinton appointee claiming with a straight face that a DES cracker could not be built because "it would melt down". The success of the challenges created 'facts on the ground' which could not be hand-waved away by government officials, and meant that customers started to insist on something better. BTW, the distributed.net folks are still cranking at 64 bit RC5. They have now searched 54% of the keyspace in 1,386 days. One thing I'd like to see done with these huge distributed computers is to factor moduli, such as those in the RSA Factoring Challenges (the prizes are substantial), A major bottleneck at this point is the matrix reduction step. If a method could be found to run this in parallel, then distributed factoring would be greatly eased. Peter Trei

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09 Aug '01

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Remailers next generation?
by Paul Harrison 09 Aug '01

09 Aug '01

It has been several years since any significant changes in anonymous remailer technology were proposed. Much of the latter day thinking has been directed more to Democracy Walls such as MN, freehaven, freenet as possible improvement on good ole Usenet alt.anonymous.messages. While it is still a bit premature, there are some intriguing possibilities in the evolution of Sun's new offspring, JXTA. In particular, the peergroup concept which allows for the dynamic formation of a routing graph amongst anonymous but authenticated nodes. There is a core JXTA security project which is supposedly finishing off an implementation of the basic crypto components including some version of key exchange and encrypted messaging (also toying with some reputation extensions which _might_ be useful). The basic JXTA node protocols use random id's, not IP addresses, domain names, or other universal namespaces.. Off the top of my head it might easily be possible for a remailers to participate in a JXTA peergroup, mixing messages with peer-2-peer xfers before a message was emitted through SMTP at the exit point. Intermediate nodes would not need to even have ICANN/IANA registered public SMTP addresses, simply persistent peergroup nyms and public keys. The JXTA protocols allow for non-tcp/ip transports as well, so an intermediate point might communicate using bluetooth, or infrared. Furthermore, by executing the transfers using a more general purpose protocol than email it would be possible to extend the remailer model to other communications channels and exit via IM, IRC, Usenet or cellular SMS. With a peergroup infrastructure it would even be possible to devise some group advertisement protocol where a remailer node or eavesdropper _never_ knew to which specific address a message was forwarded, only to what group of addresses. As I said, JXTA is a pretty raw beast right at the moment, but some of the groundwork is being set out which might make cooperative anonymous communication possible with an even lower public profile than SMTP and with a mixed mode of transport which could further frustrate analysis. There is even an incipient (although deeply flawed from a 'punk perspective) proposal to add a micropayment service into the mix. <http://www.jxta.org> A peergroup based mail services does raise some interesting trust metric challenges, though. And -- until there is a broad population of JXTA users and traffic -- the cover is mighty thin compared with smtp.

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by Nikhil Agrawal 09 Aug '01

09 Aug '01

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09 Aug '01

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ANNOUNCE CYPHERPUNKS Saturday, Aug 11, 1-5pm, Stanford
by Bill Stewart 09 Aug '01

09 Aug '01

SF Bay Area Cypherpunks August 2001 Physical Meeting Announcement General Info DATE: Saturday 11 August 2001 TIME: 1:00 - 5:00 PM (Pacific Time) PLACE: Tressider Student Union Courtyard, Stanford University Campus Palo Alto, California, USA <P> <H2>Agenda</H2> "Our agenda is a widely-held secret." As usual, this is an Open Meeting on US Soil, and everyone's invited. Some events and topics that have been happening recently include Sklyarov, Defcon, Worms From The Borg, and New FBI directors. PGP is ten years old! Several of us were at Phil Z's talk. The 802.11 WEP Wireless Encryption Protocol has been cracked even more thoroughly. The Fedz couldn't crack Nicky Scarfo's PGP key, but they could steal his passphrase by cracking his computer. Location The Stanford meeting location will be familiar to those who've been to our outdoor summer meetings before, but for those who haven't been, it's on the Stanford University campus (in Palo Alto, California), at the end of Santa Theresa, at the tables outside Tressider Union, just west of Dinkelspiel Auditorium. We meet at the tables on the West side of the building, inside the horseshoe "U" formed by the Tresidder building. Ask anyone on campus where "Tresidder" or the "Student Union" is and they'll help you find it. If the weather is bad, we'll meet inside. Food and beverages are available at the cafe inside Tresidder. Location Maps: http://www.stanford.edu/home/map/search_map.html?keyword=&ACADEMIC=Tresidde… Overview http://www.stanford.edu/home/map/stanford_zoom_map.html?234,312 (zoomed detail view): http://www.stanford.edu/home/visitors/campus_map.pdf Printable Stanford Map</A> (407k). GPS Coordinates: 37d23:40 N 122d04:49 W If you get lost on the way, you can try calling: +1.415.307.7119 (Bill) If you have questions, comments or last-minute agenda requests, please contact the meeting organizers: <BR> Bill Stewart bill.stewart(a)pobox.com <BR> Dave Del Torto ddt(a)cryptorights.org

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by Your Membership Newsletter 09 Aug '01

09 Aug '01

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Re: Remailer Phases
by Anonymous Coredump 09 Aug '01

09 Aug '01

Joseph Ashwood wrote: > As has been pointed out it's not latency but latency/messages that > matters. If there are 2 messages a day going through the system > then 5 minutes is simply not enough, it will be completely > traceable. OTOH if there are 5000/sec going through the system then > 5 minutes is arguably overkill. Oh, I think I understand the confusion now. There is a latency feature which allows a sender to request a message be held for some specified length of time before being placed in the message pool. In essence, the arrival of the message to the core of the remailer is delayed. This is a fine feature - it is almost a requirement for a really good remailer net. However, the latency I am discussing is less complicated - it's just the average time a message remains in the remailer when it's being sent straight through the system with no extra latency requested. In other words, a message which is sent in such a way that transit time is minimized. It is not something the sender can, or would want to, specify. This value is a function only of the pool sizes of the remailers and the number of messages sent through over a period of time. For example, let's say we have 10 remailers and 100 users. How many messages a day do these users have to send to see an average latency of 5 min. per hop? (Assume the pool size is 30.) Each remailer must handle 30 msgs / 5 min. = 6 msgs/min, or 8,640 msgs/day. Assuming each user routes their messages through 20 hops, each message will go through each remailer twice, on average. So, the users will send 8,640 msgs/2 = 4,320 msgs during the day. On average, each user would send 43.2 messages per day, or one every 33.33 minutes. So, you can see that this is quite feasible if people are sending any news feeds, mailing lists, cover traffic, or even just a lot of e-mail through the system.

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